Ugh. Slog's misogynist trolls are the worst. Moronic AND just plain boring.

@2: Who are you, Anna Wintour, or Mrs. Astor that you get to be the arbiter of good taste? Stating that her outfit doesn't mean consent is in bad taste? As opposed to the kind of behavior that necessitates her even having to make that sign?

@4: I know right? The mods have already pulled comments 1 and 5. One can only imagine what highly polished turds they must have been.
It would be nice if this thread didn't turn into a bunch guys mansplaining to each other. It'd be a nice change.

@7 watch it now, mansplaining is my trigger.

omg me too I am literally triggering SO HARD right now I can't even I just can't.

@8 & 9: Oh would that were true, but alas, I fear not.

@12-14: Dang child! What a love life you have!.....in your head.
Unless it is consensual, as in the case of say a super hot BDSM scene, treating men the way you describe is fucked up.
I don't know why guys who rant on in the manner that you have don't get the concept of consent as pivotal in sexual interactions, be they porntastic on one end of the spectrum, or hitting on a gal in a low cut shirt. It really makes all the difference.
And BTW collectivism, one hopes (presuming your posts aren't just another example of your active fantasy life) that you do have the consent of the gentleman you use as fuck toys, otherwise you'd be a rapist.
You're not a rapist are you? Or do you just LARP as one perhaps?

Wow. The first comment must have been something really incendiary. It's not only been pulled, there's not any record of it even existing.

@15: Sigh. It's not about looking so much as the yelling shit, or the unwanted touching or the following down the street making rude noises and/or gestures. I know right? How on earth are you supposed to know that that sort of behavior would be unwelcome!?!
Well I can help. Just remember that old nursery school rule:
Baby can see, but baby can't touch, and you will be just fine behind your mirrored creeper peepers.

@19
But that is not what the sign said.
It said "My Outfit is Not an Invitation."
It didn't say
"Baby can see, but baby can't touch."

The way I read it, it says "Don't Even Look".

OBVIOUSLY, anything beyond LOOKING is improper, criminal in fact, no matter what the woman is wearing -- hijab or nun's habit or bikini -- so a sexy outfit is irrelevant. It is a crime to do anything more than look, and look only in a way which is non-threatening.

So the sign means Do Not Look At Me In Any Way.

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(And I will register your fem-dram "sigh" and take it in the humorous way you meant.)

Newsflash: the internet is full of fucking awful people.

@Lissa

I'm surprised too that only the worst commenters come to such topics. Shouldn't all the female commenters, and the male commenters who are allies, swarm this topic and rejoice ?

I find the pictures pretty and inspiring.

As for males who don't understand what a females goes through by living in a world where the "only the worst" males think they're allowed to do anything on any female, and the "average" males think that we complain too much of the continued effort of the country not to get rid of the worst males' behaviours against us, what if it was happening to you ?

Now I feel kind of bad for ragging on Collectivism Sucks, because apparently he is a 13 year old boy, and therefore mocking him online like he is an adult is really not appropriate.

Sorry little guy, you should really get outside and forget all this stuff until you are old enough to have to worry about it.

@26
Well said to promote meaningful civil conversation!

Nah, I agree that most of the guys on this thread are assholes. My specific issue is the word "mansplaining" as it

A) is a word designed the immediately kill conversation/outright negates the opinion of half the population, and

B) is a dumb meme-ish word. Doesn't quite run of the tongue.

It's really become a pet peeve of mine.

The other posters on this thread, you have spent too much time why you should be allowed to leer at women. And that is pretty creepy. So, yeah.

excuse me, "explaining why".

#yesallmen are monsters and should be treated as such!

#yesallwomen started out as an EXCELLENT pushback to MRA psychopaths, but its devolved into base leval man bashing. Which, to be honest men deserve it, but at the same time its not gaining any allies.

@20: Ah! I see now that it is your childlike naiveté that has caused you to misinterpret the young lady’s message. Since, as you say, to do anything other than look would be obviously improper or indeed possibly criminal, naturally you believe (bless your heart) that sort of behavior to be rare. Alas, that is not the case, as even the most cursory examination of #yesallwomen would demonstrate. It is at those toads who follow, catcall, harass, grope, etc. etc. that her poster paint admonishment is aimed, rather than at gentle souls such as yourself who are content to limit themselves to admiring glances.

@21: I have indeed addressed your scenario. I said that if that is how you treat the men you sleep with, and it is not in a consensual context, your treatment of them is fucked up. Shall I scream it at you? Very well, as a feminist: DUDE!! THAT’S FUCKED UP!! Regarding your Rammstein video and taste in porn, we are again, back to the issue of consent, which to feminists, is a crucial component of sexual interaction. The gentlemen in your examples have all (one hopes!) consented to those scenes. So as a feminist, I say more power to them!

That you have redefined feminism to fit your bias is no skin off my nose. You can if you wish, decide that feminism is against helium balloon bouquets, but that we are not in an uproar about the cruel contortion and mutilation of innocent balloons in the production of carnival poodles and giraffes for our amusement. And that that is rank, rank I say! HYPOCRACY!11!1!
Please, feel free.
That would make as much sense as your assertions regarding flirting. PROTIP: Check your sources of information. The internet is full of all sorts of wild and wooly opinions, and anyone can put up a website. You like to cite examples of extreme fringe positions, but while they are certainly colorful, they are not representative of mainstream feminism.

@31
Then her sign should be clear and say something (and obviously with more wit) "OK to look but shut up."

But thx, 0 wise one.

@33: You are entirely welcome Grasshopper. :)

@27: Haha, what conversation?

All I see here is a bunch of whiny man-babies who are strangely terrified with the idea that women are people, and just want to explain that all women are stupid/crazy and justify why it is ok to leer at them like weirdos.

The reason you have such a bizarre and childish view of this situation is because you are still operating under the idea that everything a woman/women do is for your approval/benefit. This is how babies view other people, by the way.

@25: are you familiar with Lewis' Law?
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Lewis…

I would like to thank the men here who do get it. Y'all are a balm to my battered view of the world.
Thank you. For realz.

@39
You are very welcome.

@40: All the LOLs!
You have a ways to go yet Grasshopper. A good loooong ways......

@41
Don't be such a patronizing little snot.
If you think that _I_ am a sexist then you don't know bullshit.

@37: I hadn't seen that before. That's awesome.

(And well played in getting @38, @40, and @42 to immediately provide an example of Lewis' Law in action.)

@42: Just going by the information you've presented so far c&d. From your posts you appear, while possibly heading in the right direction, to still have a long way to go. May your journey be swift!

@43: Oh the credit is entirely theirs! :)

@38: Exactly my point, thanks.

Thank you for this post, Kelly.

To every person (all men aside from one woman) who touched, groped, abused, raped, harassed, blamed, and otherwise stepped way outside the bounds of respecting me, FUCK YOU. May society keep checking you for being out of line.

To every person who seeks a reason/excuse to leer at, stare upon, touch, grope, rape, harass another person: consider for a moment that tits were not made for you to sexualize. women don't dress for you. we are not walking invitations for unwarranted contact and neither are you.

ayyye s/o to the homiez

Dear women I support you in equality
I don't catcall or harass but I am a man and notice your breasts but will have no problem with eye contact either
Keep up the good fight

@50: If a guy complains about being sexually objectified by a gay dude, feminists will have his back. Have any of said men complained?

Further, I don't see how a gay dude can be a great judge of the attractiveness of women. Several of the women pictured are attractive, or would be in a social context.

Lastly, I posit that a woman walking down the street hearing, "Woo! Look at that ass!" is having a different experience from "a guy walk(ing) around a bar in tight jeans without a shirt on" and getting ogled by another bar-goer.

@51
First, I'm bi, not gay, but I prefer men.
Second, if I where to oogle a woman at a bar the way I do men, would feminists have the same "shrug and ignore it" reaction? That's what I'm asking.

You didn't answer my question: Have any of the men you've thus sexually objectified complained about such?

Second, I don't answer for 'feminists'. But ogling in bars is not what these women are complaining about.

@Lissa

I hadn't heard of Lewis's Law but it's sadly verified.

Thanks guys for lecturing the younguns about what respect truly is.

@Hawkofshadows

Whether you're straight or gay, you can notice my breasts all you want from afar, and if you're always as pleasant as you sound here, no doubt some females will let you have a closer look at their breasts, on private occasions.

@52 Although a feminist, of course I like being looked at and smiled at -- as long as it's in a non-confrontational, secure way.

But if I sense in any way in your manner that your smile is a prelude to harass me or attack me, you bet I will hate it.

Whenever you see a woman frown at your innocent looking at her :
- blame the males who took excuse of her innocently smiling back at them, to harass or attack her,
- blame the males who stood by, and did nothing to help her.

@52: Yes, if all you were doing was ogling, then yes, feminist would shrug and ignore it.
Oh and totes sad face all your comments got pulled dude.