Where is SeattleBlues to blame this all on Dan Savage and say that he is worse than these men could ever be? I'm waiting.

Anyway, one of our Catholic priests had an HBO documentary about him years ago, about how he molested a bunch of boys in my neighborhood, and after her got out of prison, the church put him up in church owned housing! It was vile, the victim was horrified and it nearly ruined his life, and people harassed him regularly on the street. On the upside, a bunch of churches in the Toledo Diocese and their schools have shut down, so, progress!

How can we ever expect to raise children healthy enough to send off to some frivolous and morally indefensible war?

I know we kid around a lot on here Seattleblues, but you really need to seek help. Your obsession with Dan Savage is starting to make you think that his existence is worse than children being raped. You need to get help for your unhealthy attachment and obsession with Dan Savage. It just is not healthy, and I am being totally serious.

@8

You are right. No thing but agreement with the most intelligent and humane person ever born, Dan Savage, and liberal thought should be allowed. Not ever. I agree completely with the Stranger and all those who write for it.

That's apparently the extent of dissent the Stranger is prepared to accept. Vulgarity, bigotry, profanity- all perfectly acceptable, but failure to toe the ideological line is trolling.

Who needs help again?

Eight comments, five of them pulled, three of which are from Seattleblues. Busy morning here on SLOG.

@9: I never said you had to agree with him, but you are clearly obsessed and overly attached to the bizarre "relationship" you feel you have with Dan, and it is not healthy.

What you are doing here is not normal. Adjusted, content people do not do the things you are doing.

Lastly, your comments are being pulled not because you disagree. This can be easily seen with the multitudes of your posts that are not removed. Your posts are being pulled because you are personally attacking the editor of the paper and offering nothing else but personal attacks.

But seriously, seek help. You need someone to guide you through the process of letting go of the obsession you have with Dan Savage and gay men/what gay men do together. This is not a joke, please get some help. If your family is real, you owe it to them.

@11 I worry about some of our commentators as well.

I like reading the Stranger because of their coverage of the Seattle arts scene and their irreverent take on the news. I like commenting because I fancy myself occasionally funny or on point.

Since the early nineties I've participated in one online forum or another in succession. But, I generally leave when I feel out of step with the community. I've been in the position of trolling in a couple places and it's toxic. Yes, everything can be twisted into a negative, but it ultimately is pointless.

You don't need to cut yourself off from differing viewpoints. Lord knows I don't agree with everything the Stranger prints. But, having some commonality is good.

@11

Know what threatens the future of this country? It isn't wars in the middle east. It isn't terrorism. It isn't healthy political wrangling between left and right on what good policy is.

It is the increasing decoupling of child rearing and inculcation of shared constructive values. It is the surrender, on false grounds of fairness and equality and manners, to barbarians. Of whom Savage is one.

I grant you, since it has no original thoughts and merely copies others thinking, it is not itself important. But the decay and corruption it champions, and the fact that it anywhere has a stage to do so, are serious existential threats to our social construct.

As for the rest I'm older than you, so don't consider any merely internet comment thread a relationship of any kind, healthy or otherwise. Nor did I comment on men or women who've chosen the homosexual lifestyle. You brought it up.

So your call for me to get help is in fact a joke. Just an ironic one you don't get.

@13: Do you have any evidence that people not sharing your personal values leads to the downfall of nations?

@13: "Know what threatens the future of this country? ...the surrender, on false grounds of fairness and equality and manners, to barbarians... the decay and corruption... are serious existential threats to our social construct."

Argentina
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
France
Iceland
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Spain
South Africa
Sweden
United Kingdom
Uruguay

Decayed, corrupt, barbaric societies, every one of them. Right?

@13 "It is the increasing decoupling of child rearing and inculcation of shared constructive values." [that is the real and present danger]

If you listed the values that you believed were healthy, and why exactly you think they are being harmed, you might actually reach people. But "Dan Savage sucks" and "This is stupid" and "This is evil" are not reasons, they're fluffy exclamations of emotion.

Your posts come off as unreasonable/trollish because you don't state your point and back it up with reasons, but rely on emotional appeal.

I disagree that SB's posts are helpful, although it may have been a good exercise for me to write this. I see enough evidence of ignorant or overly emotional bs in life so I find them somewhat tiring.

By "hat trick" do you mean two Mexicans and a homosexual?

@19 From, yes, Wikipedia, "A hat-trick in sports is the achievement of a (positive) feat three times during a game." The term is used here ironically referencing a negative action which happens to have occurred three times.

@21

Is this trolling? Oh. Now I remember. You're in agreement with this rag, so nothing you say is trolling. Or something...

Have a nice day.

@15

Of how many of these nations would you say "their best days are ahead!"? And for what it's worth many of them are, like America, in the middle of a culture war. On one side, nihilists who would throw away hard won cultural identity on a momentary whim and on the other folks who understand that tearing things apart out if spite and ignorance isn't a long term good for a culture.

Guess which side you're on.

@21

Quick kindness for you.

I believe you mean 'scrape a depression' since "scape a depression" would have the opposite meaning to your profoundly eloquent comment as a whole.

@17

"That's what we call socially maladaptive."

Socially maladaptive! Well! What impressive words you use!

I'm curious. Are there more than one of you writing, or is that the royal 'we'?

@22: Boy, you sure look stupid now, don't you?

@23: Most of those countries seem to be doing pretty well. But please, elaborate for us the culture wars that are shaking these countries' foundations.

@25: I call it socially maladaptive also. That's more than one of us. We think you've got an unhealthy obsession with talking shit to people who have a poor opinion of your intelligence and character.
You should try switching to a breakfast cereal with more moral fiber. I suggest Raisin Brahms.

Funny how SB picks the ugliest threads to join. Don't see him ever help with any of the questions. Just responds when sleazy posts are up. Me thinks some sort of guilt factor is going on. Projecting onto Dan and others his vile thoughts, impulses and maybe deeds.

@27 Er.
I kinda stated my opinion of SB's low intelligence and I didn't get attacked!

I think SB might go after rude people. Or people who question his? character based on his posts. I can't find a lot of fault with that! Generally wasted effort but not evil imo... On the other hand, maybe s/he's just vicious with people who disagree. I haven't seen enough posts to tell.

To advocate for the devil!

I know I'm not helping. The subject of this thread makes me sick, I can't think about it too well.

@1 For the love of human decency would you be more careful about what you wish for in the future.

@29: "On the other hand, maybe s/he's just vicious with people who disagree. I haven't seen enough posts to tell.

He is. We have.

@32 Ok. Sorry if I came across as annoying/ignorant. I try to keep a very open mind. Without letting my brain fall out.

Perhaps there should be a higher bar to work with children or disabled. People might balk at the effort (higher salaries and red tape) needed to achieve that bar.

venom @27, thank you for the Brahms!

blip @31, you hit that nail square on the head. While I usually skip SB threads, I'd actually like to hear his response to your post.

Wait! What am I thinking‽ There's not a chance in Hell SB would--or even could--respond to your point in any remotely logical or relevant fashion.

Still, good job.

It always comes down to the evidence.
Face the facts!!
I'm not seeing a lot of evidence for your arguments, Seattleblues.

On an unrelated issue, what's your opinion on vaccinating children, Seattleblues?

Should I have said "Fuck off and die,
SB, please?"

@31: Don't misuse 'decimate' plis.
@34: There's another one in the same vein, but not quite as funny: Van Goghgurt
According to Seattleblues, the courts are wrong when they disagree with him, it's tyranny when his side loses in a popular vote, and he alone decides whether someone counts as Christian. He's got a serious case of needing to always be right.

When ever I start to feel sorry for myself I stop and give thanks that at least I'm not Seattleblues.
What a hellish world he's made for himself to live in.

@38
Thanks for commenting, so I can address many of your previous repeat requests of SB (constantly ignored). I'm not the kind of person to wish ill to anyone, though I have often hoped they'd simply disappear. However, I'll be lenient here.

So let's just play "Imagine If". Imagine if SB became totally blind and were unable to read columns in the paper he (mostly) loathes. What would he do? Would he have to rely on his wife to read the columns that upset him the most and then have her transcribe his vitriol prior to typing every single word? I know you've asked him countless times whether he's shown this unhealthy obsession (oh, should I have said hobby?) of his to his pastor and how his pastor has reacted.

Anyway, I do agree with your sentiment/philosophy wholeheartedly.

@39: Internet fist bump to you. :)

@31

I never said gay parents were destroying society. I've never advocated for violence against those who choose the homosexual lifestyle. Nor for criminal law to be involved in the sexual choices of consenting adults.

What I wrote is that this liberal idea that all (except Christian or conservative- valueless of course!) values have equal merit foes harm cultures. It gives children no standard by which to evaluate the world and ideas. It is a form of child abuse, really.

Whether people who must make an effort to obtain custodial care of a child, which a homosexual lifestyle choosing person must by definition make as good parents? There are real problems with this as a provable hypothesis. First, you're comparing maybe 1% of the population to the vast majority- that is those who choose both homosexual behavior and to seek adoption or other means of obtaining custody of a child to a the majority. As a sample it's statistically worthless. As well, you attempt to use exceptions to define rules. That is- most kids will benefit from traditional parenting since most kids will eventually be heterosexual parents. That on occasion a 'gay' couple patents well alters the right of society to make rules based on how most people behave not one bit.

At any rate, your argument is basically a statement of your beliefs, not a postulated real world circumstance.

@38

Hate to burst your bubble, but my life is far from hellish. I'm healthy. I make a decent living doing something I enjoy and do well. Above all, my wife and kids, siblings and mom, friends and acquaintances are people I enjoy being around who strangely seem to enjoy being around me. Maybe compare yourself to Mudede who hates every aspect of life where he's chosen to live?

@41: "First, you're comparing maybe 1% of the population to the vast majority- that is those who choose both homosexual behavior and to seek adoption or other means of obtaining custody of a child to a the majority. As a sample it's statistically worthless."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
I'm sorry, do you know ANYTHING about statistics? 1% of 300 million is a HUGE sample size! You can RELIABLY AND WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE draw conclusions about nationwide political trends from a survey of a measly 5,000. Now, it's going to be very hard to survey every queer who ever adopted a kid, but if we can track down and evaluate just 1% of every gay adoptive parent, that's (going off of your 1% of society) a sample with n=30,000. Oh, what statisticians wouldn't give for a sample size of 30,000 respondents!
Again, you are making claims on a subject on which you are EMBARRASSINGLY IGNORANT.

The rest of your post is such meaningless rubbish I'm not even going to respond to it. I can't question your claims until I see you actually articulate them. Right now you're disarticulating them; mind the epicondyles.

@31 "If this happened, would you adjust your beliefs to match reality, or would you persist in delusion and insist you are right and everyone else is wrong, in the most belligerent, incoherent, downright shameful manner possible? " see #41 It chose delusion.

@42 "wife and kids, siblings and mom, friends and acquaintances are people" and when one of them tells you that they are gay/lesbian will you still enjoy being around them? At least one of them is gay/lesbian and likely everyone else knows they just choose to avoid your inevitable melt down and keep it from you.

@42: Your posting history tells a very different story. I'm assuming that the people in your life have no idea the level of hate an vitriol you exhibit here. In fact I'm sure of it. You hide this side of yourself from them.
They don't see the real you, but I do.

@43 Of course Subhumanblues is ignorant when it comes to statistical analysis. Subhumanblues is willful ignorance personified. Truthiness is Subhmanblues's fact and reality.

13 " It is the surrender, on false grounds of fairness and equality and manners, to barbarians."

I totally agree with that statement. We should keep people with savage ideas like mixing religion and government as far from the halls of power as possible. It is a shame we allow them to raise children.

@47: It's like when John McCain said that surveys of soldiers' opinions on a DADT repeal weren't reliable because only ~2% of the entire armed forces responded.
I took 3 quarters of undergraduate statistics, and I knew about sample size and confidence by halfway through the first one. I wish people knew more about statistics...it would make people harder to mislead.

Anybody else notice that it's "Youth Pastor Watch" that consistently sends seattleblues into his worst fits, even when these are just selected news excerpts with absolutely no additional comments from the Savage? Apparently he really really hates having the child molesting ways of the youth pastors publicized.
Is it possible?
Could it be?
Is Seattleblues a youth pastor???

Is SeattleBlues a youth pastor molesting kids ?