By isolating and manipulating gender as a variable and holding all other variables—skill, career, personality, talent—constant, these individuals reveal exactly the way one’s outward appearance of gender affects day-to-day interactions.
It’s not just really about asking for the raise, but knowing and having faith that the system will actually give you the right raises as you go along.
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Just out of college. At an accounting seminar. This is 1977 -- very few women in accounting then.
I was sitting next to a woman who not only was a CPA and had been for 20 years, she had her own firm. Very very rare bird.
She tells me that she LOVES to hire women. I'm thinking in my baby feminist mind -- good, here we go, sisterhood is powerful!
And she says -- women do a better job, they are more detail oriented (necessary for accounting!) -- and they don't ask for as much money.
It's been 37 years. Women are finally starting to speak up. Don't let this asshat stop you. Ask for more because you are worth it, because you want it to be "fair."
Be as annoying as men are, and the pay gap will close.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/11923…One man in the article was told to his face how much better his work was than his "sister's", by someone who did not realize that they were the same person.
But, speaking of pay gaps, I notice there's not a lot of women in The Stranger editor roles and other higher up positions. Is there a gap in your offices too and is it more or less than average ?
New guy comes in to run advertising and she finds out he's making nearly $20,000 more than she is -- to start.
When she questioned the publisher about the fairness, he replied, "He asked for more."
The same publisher then proceeded to run that magazine into the ground, but that's another story.
Or is it?
• Among all listed staff with "editor" somewhere in the title, I count 6 women and 10 men (with director/publisher and EIC all occupied by men, except Nancy Hartunian, listed as "Reader Interactive Director").
• Among supervisor/manager-level job titles (again, open to interpretation), I count 17 women and 17 men.
That seems pretty good except at the tip-top levels, and that's probably a matter of founding staff (like Dan and Tim) who remain. Obviously I can't speak to comparative salaries.
M:F with editor in the title in "editorial and above" is 9:5... if you skip the word "editor" it's 20:11 going all the way down to columnists. Not that far off from Microsoft percentages, but I guess the newsroom isn't unionized either.
Everybody has to pull the quotes and oh-my-god and this-means-that on their own because other people saying the same things doesn't count because they got the pageviews.
People who want to read this yelly vapid crap can get plenty of it on Jezebel.
I've been in the tech industry almost thirty years. Having 70 percent of the workforce male is not a problem - it's the culture of the industry. There just aren't as many women that are interested in the geeky tech world. I think this will change because the new generations are being brought up with technology but it will take time for the interest to build.
And watch out for charts on pay comparisons in the tech industry. If they lump all women together of course the pay will be significantly lower because there are so many women in the role of Admin as opposed to men in that role. But if you do a job by job comparison the pay gets pretty close to equal. My friend and I are paid the same for the same technical role.
That he doesn't demonstrate a complete understanding of the issues puts him in good company with most of the rest of us.
The more interesting number than the 70/30 overall split is the split for technical positions. That's about 83/17, and it's recognized to be typical for the industry. Mostly, software engineers have college degrees in technical fields such as computer science. And 17% women in technical graduating classes is also fairly typical. So a company that's hiring 17% women into starting positions isn't exhibiting bias in hiring.
Actually, the 17% is for current employees - not new hires. An enduring problem in gender equity is retention. We find that at every step of the pipeline - both before and after graduation - the gender balance degrades. Is that on Microsoft, or is that on everybody - parents, educators, co-workers, a social system that still makes child-rearing primarily a women's job, and a political system that fails to provide adequate support to mothers? Oh, and internet commentors - let's not forget the key role we play.
Nurses are traditionally and predominantly female; in 2008, of the 3,063,163 licensed registered nurses in the United States only 6.6% of were men. Men also make up only 13% of all new nursing students.
"Despite the majority, men outearned women, with an average of $60,700, compared with $51,100 for female nurses."
(From Physician's Weekly, March, 2013.)
Wow, you sure debunked the myth of the salary gap there. Nice work, chief.
Men’s representation was highest among nurse anesthetists at 41%.
Male nurse anesthetists earned more than twice as much as the male average for all nursing occupations: $162,900 vs $60,700.
We are aware that one of the reasons men get paid more on average than women is that they are more likely than women to be in the higher-paying positions of any particular job classification.
Understanding why that is, systemically, and working to change it is key to addressing the salary gap.
You can't just say "Men get paid more than women because men are in jobs that pay more."
(Well, you can, but you'll be an idiot with nothing to contribute to the conversation.)
That plus sports and weather at 5!
It's one pathway to make sure women can be promoted to top ranks of their field, but what about the whole issue with women-dominated fields being lower income earning, like teaching ?
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So, your solution is.... ?
Women?!! ha! stop asking for special treatment and calling yourself out as DIFFERENT.
Where's the woman equivalent of Al Sharpton to turn a generic capitalism issue into a women-only issue. Junk issue. ignore it...next...?
Actually Satya didn't make a generalization about any gender. If he did now that would be sexist. Don't you agree? ;)