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And how can you forget the Man Ray?! That place's closure has left a hole in my heart no other gay bar can fill.
The bigger guys'll have little problem with it. Bars like Redwood? I wonder.
He wasn't bad looking, and he was flirting with me something terrible, but the combination of laundromat and leather daddy just made me giggle.
It was and is a favorite bar in town, but let's be honest: it isn't old, it isn't a granddaddy of anything, and it's gone downhill a lot in the last few years.
But it was a great place for a (slooooooow) boozy vegan brunch while watching football, even if it's taplist was always depressing.
When the Monk closes, then you can write this piece.
Oh yeah, your new lease just doubled, gotta move to FIFE.
1) The 12th Man has been around for decades (the "12" jersey was retired by the team in 1984). Not to mention, the Seahawks went to the Superbowl in early 2006 (just before this bar opened), so your attempt to make it sound like they "liked the Seahawks before it was cool" is misguided.
2) The Pine block with Cha Cha, Bus Stop, etc. wasn't shut down until 2007, over a year and a half after the Redwood opened. When it first opened, it wasn't replacing anything.
3) This place was in no way a trendsetter. If anything, it copied what many others have done with the lumberjack thing. Have you ever heard of Linda's (way older) or King's (opened around the same time), among many others ? Also, you're citing sweet potato fries and grass-fed meat as your examples of them being a trendsetter in 2006? Really? Just because you experienced it here first, doesn't mean they set any trends. Honestly, this place always struck me as derivative above all else.
I could keep going but what's the point?
Again, this is a fine bar and will leave a void, no doubt, but this article is wrong on so many levels and with so many facts it's hard to ignore.
People make things up to cause less informed people to get riled up and think the way you want them to all the time.
Been going on for many many years and will keep going on.
Some reporters will simply make up their own facts to make the story sound better.
Like saying I “likely doesn’t have much of a stake in the cultural fate of the cultural fate of the neighborhood”
when in fact I have lived in the neighborhood longer than you have “likely” been alive.
And “he’s old enough to give a shit less about bars” when in fact I OWN A BAR in Seattle! And I own two buildings that house bars.
I don’t make up facts but I will make a guess that you do not, never have and never will own a bar.
And this one “he doesn’t have any motivation not to take the millions of dollars he will get from a developer and go retire comfortably”.
Who are these developers that are going to give me “millions of dollars”? I have no idea. Do you have some knowledge that I do not?
Could you please tell me who exactly they are so I could talk to them?
You statement “the bar that successfully fought off a very concerted effort by a few NIMBY neighbors to keep it from opening” would
be far more accurate if you said the owner of the building successfully fought off…as I was the one the city sued and I am the one that had to fight with Tom Carr
to keep the Redwood open.
I really do not care how many “facts” you want to make up in order to get your story in the paper.
None of the stuff you, Sara Palin or Fox news makes up really matters to me much.
It is kind of a pain explaining to my work that I am not retiring and it is just something the reporter just made up to make the story more interesting.
Fortunately the folks at my work realize that some reports will say anything to try to make the story more interesting.
But the part that goes like "He lives in the building behind the bar" followed by "he asked Brooke to maintain his anonymity" really pisses me off.
Even though reports make stuff up to make their story more interesting or just accept as fact what someone says without verifying it I always
thought they were bound by some sort of ethical code where you honor a person’s request to remain anonymous.
Maybe they did not teach you in reporter school that even worse than publishing a person’s name is publishing their address.
You and the Stranger should be ashamed of yourself.
All of Seattle should know that if the Strange tells you they will keep your identity private that does not include your address.
About the only thing you got right is that I am not an asshole but I certainly wonder about you.
SLOG is in the toilet.
However, historically, there have been a number of wealthy city neighborhoods that have also maintained unique, culturally rich personalities. Cambridge, MA or Providence, RI's eastside in the early 90's were great examples of this. I'm sure there were parts of NYC in the 80's where you probably could have said the same. While these neighborhoods were extremely wealthy, they were also loaded with galleries, vintage shops, used record stores & book stores, punk clubs, boutiques, dive bars and upscale bars, etc...
I think the problem isn't with the influx of money itself, but the values and desires of the currently wealthy that have changed.
Younger Broker White "Progressives" - We need more density, just don't build over my favourite dive bar!
So much NIMBY BS in such a "Progressive" town.
I am not.
This articular is BULL SHIT.
The Redwood's lease is expiring at the end of the year.
Most likely your lease for your apartment is expiring within a year. Does that mean you are getting kicked out of your apartment?
My guess would be that the Strangers lease is going to expire within a few years. Does that mean the Stranger is closing?
The Redwood, like most every other commercial building in the country, has a lease that will expire. That does not mean the lease will not be extended. That does not mean it is closing.
Had the author of this story bother to ask for the real facts there would be no story.
Perhaps that is why he did not ask.