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I'm enjoying the thought of some sorryass cis motherfucker trying to attack a woman in a public bathroom and getting the holy shit kicked out of him by a bunch of women, head stuffed down a toilet, etc.
Not to mention people born intersex, whether it's 47XXY, CAIS, 46XX/46XY chimerism, Swyer syndrome, or whatever, wouldn't be accounted for by the law. Suppose for example that a child is born with 5α-Reductase deficiency, causing them to be externally female-appearing (and assigned that gender at birth) albeit with ambiguous genitalia, but to bear a Y chromosome, have male gender identity (neurological structure), and to eventually develop male sexual characteristics (macroclitoris/micropenis, male facial hair, masculine voice, production of viable sperm). In such an instance there would be a person who, by any reasonable measure, would be termed male but not transgender, and yet, due to having been assigned female at birth, would be forced to use the ladies' room by this bill!
I really wish these transphobic weirdos would read up on human biology before they open their mouths. Our species and its pathologies are far stranger than these idiots presume...
All of these places - his offices, the chamber of commerce, etc - have front doors, sofas, tables, vases, and other places where one could exercise one's freedom of choice not to use a restroom.
So, come on, people of Florida - trans or cis. If you're anywhere near Artiles' office, and you need a dump or a piss, you know where to do it. Floors, walls, sofas.... anywhere except the actual restroom.
If you'd like to ask him about this, by the way, his phone number is 305-219-8830 and his e-mail is email@example.com.
In addition to babies/toddlers, there are other people who require assistance in the restroom, and those people don't necessarily match genders with their caregivers!
There's all sorts of reasons why this is moronic, which is why this bill may represent a bit of a turning point. It is so patently about animus that he didn't bother to think of the side effects.
But let's not pretend that asking females to accommodate males in their previously sex segregated spaces doesn't come at some price to them.
This is all about protecting males from males, and requiring that the refuge be provided by females.
I don't have a position on this, but I find the debate to be a little too black and white.
For a more balanced view, and to see that it's not just right wing conservatives who have concerns about opening up female segregated spaces to males, and that the conern isn't just about transwomen, check out this http://www.sheilajeffreys.com/wp-content… and this
What a dick.
Typically, the group chosen is "politically weak" but "respected" in some way.
In Putin's Russia, it is the LGBT community singled out for their pogrom.
In Austerity Greece, it is immigrants.
In Obama's America, it is the sex workers and the trans community...
If only Artiles had said that, we'd have understood his concerns and helped him find a solution.
And what "price" do you think we pay for trans* women using women's restrooms? I mean, I get that our lines are usually longer. And trans* women using women's restrooms would lengthen the lines, albeit a statistically insignificant amount. But calling that a "price" strikes me as awfully melodramatic.
But maybe I'm just lazy.
Wow, now I know how MLK must have felt. :P
Florida-the IQ never goes higher than the temperature.
Rep. Frank Artiles
@8: "If my wife and my son are out and need to use the bathroom, what does she do? Are they going to cite my son for using the women's restroom?"
Meh, I wouldn't be surprised.
My cousin and his son were in Walmart, and the men's room was out of order. There was no other restroom nearby, and a child of 3 can't reliably hold it for a long drive, so my cousin took his son to pee behind a dumpster. Of course, some nosy busybody called the cops and tried to get the kid cited under a public-exposure law--technically designed to address flashers, but often used to selectively prosecute, e.g., hobos for taking a piss in back-alley trash cans.
Thankfully the cop had some sense, but I think that was just luck of the draw. I can just as easily imagine that having ended very badly if the cop who responded had been on a power trip.