I think what likely happened was that the horrors that were visited upon him in watching the Cubs play drove the guy to far more desperate and horrific lifestyle choices.
While in general I lean toward adoption and foster parenting (because the need is so great) or surrogacy (because it's more predictable), no one accuses opposite-sex couples faced with infertility problems of narcissism for choosing highly complex assisted-reproduction strategies to produce a child that contains as much of their genetic contributions as possible (or affordable).
This morning, my 8 year old daughter started asking my lady-wife and I questions about 'gay' because she's reading "Drama" by Raina Telgemeier and the straight main female character falls for a gay boy. Even though we've been talking to her about non-straight sexuality since birth, for some reason this book really brought it all home. She just didn't get it, that a boy could desire a boy or a girl could desire a girl that way. But we explained to her that, even though YOU don't feel that way, OTHER PEOPLE DO, and that it is ok. I think she finally started to comprehend, and I can tell that she will easily grow to accept and acknowledge 'other' as being equal and worthy of respect because of these learning moments and how we try to handle them.
My little girl is more capable of compassion and empathy than most grown Christians I've met. When she doesn't 'get it' she tries to learn and understand. When these zealots don't 'get it', they do whatever they can to force the other party to change or see themselves as inferior in the eyes of god. It's sickening and disturbing. Humans can learn tolerance and acceptance, and even though Jesus preached that shit constantly, these 'Christians' can't do it and probably ruin their kids in the process.
I will offer all GLBTQ people presents to stay gay, if it helps shut these fuckers down.
Sorry...should have said "...stay gay, lesbian, bi-, trans- or questioning..." Don't want to counter my point by being accidentally non-inclusive at the end. :)
Come on, Dan. What would convince you to play away the gay? I know it's nothing, but, what'd be in your list, if ever? World peace? A totally Democrat Congress? Canada taking over Washington? Don't let us hanging here...
Now, see, by the third inning one of those ballplayers is going to adjust his cup, or pat a teammate on the rear, and that gay is going to flare right up again. Baseball, like all sports, is inherently gay, gay, gay. I mean, c'mon, the Olympians used to wrestle in the nude.
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Some enterprising we developer should start an Ex-Gay-Registry. You could model it after online Wedding Registries, where a prospective Ex-Gay can scan the UPC codes for various sundries at Bed, Bath & Beyond or Williams-Sonoma. What will it take for *you* to stop being gay? How about a place setting? Don't forget the Honey-pot for direct cash donations.
delta @11, have you seen that cabana boy! Toss in a bare bosomed island lass, and some good books, and I'll see y'all in a decade or three.
Also, I think David Benham is required to produce this supposed Facebook conversion conversation. Should he fail to do so, he has to go Gay. Pucker up, David.
When I was a young boy, my parents had season tickets to the New Orleans Saints, and I went to their games all the time. Still turned out gay. I wonder if the reason is because they lost so often?
Ophian @1: I'd make a bad cabana boy but an excellent bartender. So I'll bring the bourbon and you bring the massage oil and we'll bend the rules of this little Faustian bargain of yours.
Delta35, what if the island was a big city? Best of both worlds.
My gift: open ended tickets to travel Europe and a Rav 4. Since I'm a woman,I'll even sleep with one of them to prove I'm now hetero. Do these people have a Facebook page?
Fortunate @ 24, hands down, hands up, hands around and around blow jobs ...
Ophian & Lolo - nice to see you back together - I'll just be sitting on that comfortable rock over there with my drink in hand, looking out to sea. Make some noise!
I think the point here isn't - buying gifts will turn a gay straight, but finding love will make anyone do almost anything. Amongst gays we should love one another and be nice to each other. This will prevent anti-gay bigots from pulling a fast one.
[No, no. That beautiful cabana boy is only rubbing me down with oil platonically. Honest]
Rush
(...the band)
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/02/23/bab…
While in general I lean toward adoption and foster parenting (because the need is so great) or surrogacy (because it's more predictable), no one accuses opposite-sex couples faced with infertility problems of narcissism for choosing highly complex assisted-reproduction strategies to produce a child that contains as much of their genetic contributions as possible (or affordable).
My little girl is more capable of compassion and empathy than most grown Christians I've met. When she doesn't 'get it' she tries to learn and understand. When these zealots don't 'get it', they do whatever they can to force the other party to change or see themselves as inferior in the eyes of god. It's sickening and disturbing. Humans can learn tolerance and acceptance, and even though Jesus preached that shit constantly, these 'Christians' can't do it and probably ruin their kids in the process.
I will offer all GLBTQ people presents to stay gay, if it helps shut these fuckers down.
Myabe Ted Haggard getting Colorado Rockies tickets, would had helped him not smoking meth and playing catcher...
These Benham twins are weird dudes. They are going all out to stop the Charlotte LGBT ordinance right now..
@Ophian having lived on a tropical island for a year (albeit non-private), it gets boring fast. Big city anyday.
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especially the part about responding with love.
Ex-Gay-For-Pay
http://amzn.com/w/39EMWTRHM26RT
Also, I think David Benham is required to produce this supposed Facebook conversion conversation. Should he fail to do so, he has to go Gay. Pucker up, David.
In the realm of competing presents Cubs tickets don't even come close to blow jobs, so the gays win, hands down, every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uzKLQLP…
First prize — blow jobs
Second prize — a pair of Cubs tickets
Third prize — two pairs of Cubs tickets
My gift: open ended tickets to travel Europe and a Rav 4. Since I'm a woman,I'll even sleep with one of them to prove I'm now hetero. Do these people have a Facebook page?
Ophian & Lolo - nice to see you back together - I'll just be sitting on that comfortable rock over there with my drink in hand, looking out to sea. Make some noise!