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can't they just leave and move to Idaho already?
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Polls are worthless, people showing up and lobbying as much as gay activist do is the only thing that can stop the assault and impositions on their families.
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Multiple amendments withdrawn, no additional filings.

The important amendments were left:
-Referendum clause
-Reverse Severability Clause
-Free Speech Protection (essentially guaranteeing the ability to misrepresent this and future equality measures without legal recourse)
-Penalty Clause (implies penalties for representing Domestic Partnerships as Marriage in public schools)
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This was predictable. Dave Coffman told the 34th District Democrats at a recent meeting that the fundies were sure to try this, and that we should gear up to defeat it.

If you're not registered to vote, pleqase register now. If you have friends or relatives or acquaintances who are not registered to vote, please make sure they register. Please tell them that this is coming, and that we have to mobilize NOW.

We have to raise money to pay organizers and to buy advertising, and to get the message out that we are not going backwards in this state. We have to ensure that our Democratic Party Legislative District organizations make strong statements against any such referendum.

We have the opportunity to send the right wingers and the haters a message that they will never forget, and will not recover from politically any time soon.

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Man loveschild... do you ever get tired of FUCKING LYING OUT YOUR IGNORANT ASS?

What exactly impositions are going to come about by this?
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Shea amendment failed to muster, Hinkle amendment up with lukewarm support.
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Hinkle amendment failed, second Shea amendment up.

This is really good. If you guys like a good fight, watch these proceedings.
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Jesus died. Why can't they?
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@5 - Just ignore her. She brings nothing to the conversation, and is only here to be a jerk.

How about an initiative that once and for all makes civil rights issues off-limits to the initiative process? I wonder how well other groups would do (Mormons, fundies of all stripes, etc.) if their rights were subject to a popular vote. Not that I am comparing gay people to Mormons or fundies (perish the thought), but it's easy to imagine that religious groups would raise holy hell if people dared to suggest that anyone but them had a right to vote on how they are going to live their lives. Classic "Fine for thee, but not for me" situation. A-holes.
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Second Shea and Ross amendments failed (free speech and the curriculum restriction). Referendum amendment coming up.

Confidential to you and I, if an initiative were to somehow pass, it can be overturned by simple legislative majority regardless of any clause 2 years after passing. Passing an initiative within the next 3 years would effectively ensure that it would be gone within 5. Using a pretty simple overlay of population growth trend and voting trend, there is no way one would pass beyond that point. Never lose hope!
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Referendum amendment failed, final statements. Here we go!

Party on Pike?
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Rep. Rodne is saying "this is the next step to a Civil Union bill, to a Marriage bill" in his preacher voice. Even though Senator Murray called it the "everything but marriage" bill. Way to go Rep. Rodne, you're observant.

Rep. Angel is saying "no rights because it costs $8.5mil when we are cutting social services!", Rep. Orcutt rose in concurrence. I'd give cash for that $8.5mil, wouldn't you guys? It should be noted that both Representatives, especially the Gentleman from the 18th, have voted against social service expansion and funding in the past.

Lots of blah blah blahing, hold your horses everyone, it'll be up in 10-20 mins at the most, I think.
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@2: Until I read the "posted by", I thought this comment was supportive of gay activists and their families. Thank you for your inadvertent support.
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Thanks for the updates, Baconcat. I'm stuck at work and can't watch the fundies get their butt kicked but enjoying hearing about it nonetheless.
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Bring it on....
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Hmm...Guess Nate Silver's stats on when a state will vote down bans on gay marriage will be put to a test fairly early, if these douchebags can manage to get an initiative on the ballot. I have my doubts.
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IT PASSED! 62-35
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Passed, 62-35.

Closing remarks included:
-Pastor voice!
-FEAR FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE
-Rep. Eddy laying the smack down, saying "as women, we should be offended"
-Correction on the fiscal impact (1/25th what was presented by those opposed)
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@16

Nate Silver's model predicts the tipping point, not when states will vote down bans on gay marriage.
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"“If I didn’t believe it would pass, I wouldn’t put the work into it.”

Really Gary? Cause last I checked the futility of a political campaign was no impediment to you and FFN getting involved. It certainly didn't stop you from dropping thousands of dollars on the utterly failed "Change the state in '08" campaign.
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What the Faith and Freedom Network ought to do if they actually believe in marriage is to propose an initiative to ban divorce. After all, so-called Christians are destroying their own marriages at a fairly rapid rate. That would comport with what Jesus taught. But they would be laughed out of the state and become wildly unpopular. Which proves that the only thing they're interested in is spreading panic to raise money and gain attention. Pathetic losers. They should rename themselves the Plank-Eyed Mote-Seekers.

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