Isn't the rather dramatic decline of newspapers over the last few years proof that the public wants to see real journalism and not endless galleries of half-naked celebrities? This isn't a confession, it's a bitter ex-journalist blaming consumers for the loss of his job. Allow me to send a message to the Jake Ellisons of the world: You were supposed to be reporting but you put out useless fluff instead; people didn't buy it and you lost your job, it's your fault.
@3, the industry also chose the easy route of mixing hard journalism with tabloid journalism. They were trying to serve two masters. In the end, tabloid won out. This result was predictable because the lowest common denominator sells more (see McDonalds). Give the people what they want, right? That philosophy has consequences.
Instead, they should have chosen to keep hard journalism distinct from tabloid. Of course there would be fewer customers, but the customers they had would remain. People WILL PAY FOR QUALITY.
Now, you may have to run a tight ship and forgo some potential profit, but in the long run, it will not only be sustainable but also a societal benefit.
The newspapers were too greedy. Now we have very little real journalism but plenty of tabloid/blogosphere reporting.
Note to media - STOP GIVING AWAY YOUR PRODUCT! Doing real journalism is expensive. Online display ads produces little revenue. The P-I, the Times - no one seems to understand that posting your expensive content for free on the internet without developing a real business model is a very bad idea. If I were in their shoes, I would hold out for a fair price for either subscriptions or ads. I buy the Times in print, but I have no idea why - I never read it. I always read it online, which I COULD DO FOR FREE.
As a consumer, I'd like to be able to say - "Oh well, the market will provide," except it won't. There's no substitute for real journalism emerging in the online world - just tons of unlicensed hacks spewing their opinions in blogs.
Not that print is a panacea. Lawsuits, legal rulings (Valerie Plame), pressure to turn a profit, etc. have all undermined the provision of reporting in the public interest.
So Ellison is right in a way. Most people want the half-naked celebs. *sigh*
I want to see that FHM gallery. Is that the chick from Mad Men?
I'm leaving now to visit the PI site, something I had no intention of doing before I saw that picture and something I've not done in two weeks. So yeah, worked on me.
@6 haha, and she probably reads those male views the same that you read her writing. But come on, did you really find her post that offensive? The onslaught of crap that is considered news worthy these days really is unfortunate. I know where I can go to see the titts and ass and the fluffy bunny stories, but where can I go to see the news?
@ 5: The "giving it away for free" line is a canard. Ellison also is wrong when he puts it on "the users" to support journalism.
Newspaper content has always been *basically* free. Circulation revenue was never a profit center. It doesn't even begin to pay for the cost of printing and delivering a paper. And you won't get people to pay more money for a less premium experience (viewing it on a screen) as Savage has said here before.
The solution is innovative advertising. @5 you're right that the market won't just "provide" out of thin air.
It used to, when newspapers had a complete publishing monopoly. But the monopoly is gone. Now, they have to WORK for their dough. So they should get working.
I never understood why the PI devotes so much prime real estate to those stupid galleries. And, I agree with the commenter who suggested that the media needs to stop berating consumers for their choice not to buy that stuff.
I welcome this apparent change of heart Erica, from over the last few months, when you have criticized as "out of touch" those who care about good journalism and are worried about the sustainability of blogging and writing for free. A number of people over the months have questioned whether the current online journalism model (as is, w/o a means for support of journalists) can replicate "finding, investigating and sharing information about the powerful, the greedy and the downtrodden."
Erica, no one was ever under the misimpression that you were the target audience for a mainstream newspaper. Hell, no one was ever under the misimpression that you were the target audience for anything other than Andrea Dworkin essays.
David Wright, you blustering dinosaur. Erica is not a militant, Dworkin-style feminist, which you would know if you weren't lodged in some kind of 1970s-style time warp. She's an educated woman, and her views are pretty similar to those of most other educated women out there. They are very, very different from Dworkin's. Your understanding of gender issues is so dated it's embarrassing.
@23:
Umm, Erica has a long and proud history of posting strident, self righteous, sex-negative, male bashing articles that you obviously haven't read. Much of her writing is lifted straight from Women's Studies circa 1993, which in my experience was completely and uncritically under Dworkin's spell. I encourage you to read Erica's musings on sexy Halloween costumes or the falsely accused "rapists" from the Duke Lacrosse team.
P.S. The idea that Erica is just like most educated women is an insult to both women and our educational system.
@24, Dworkin attempted to argue that all heterosexual sex was a form of rape. This is why guys like @22 know her name. Evoking her to criticize Erica's perfectly reasonable objection to this cheap trash disguised as "news" is clumsy and unconvincing.
Can we stay on point with Erica's posts instead of engaging in an ad hominem pile-on? For once? It is so, so tiresome and transparent.
How again did you keep your job after getting caught stealing wine from QFC?
And has way more people checking it out?
Look, fighting the good fight is all well and good, but you work in MEDIA. Deal with it.
Instead, they should have chosen to keep hard journalism distinct from tabloid. Of course there would be fewer customers, but the customers they had would remain. People WILL PAY FOR QUALITY.
Now, you may have to run a tight ship and forgo some potential profit, but in the long run, it will not only be sustainable but also a societal benefit.
The newspapers were too greedy. Now we have very little real journalism but plenty of tabloid/blogosphere reporting.
As a consumer, I'd like to be able to say - "Oh well, the market will provide," except it won't. There's no substitute for real journalism emerging in the online world - just tons of unlicensed hacks spewing their opinions in blogs.
Not that print is a panacea. Lawsuits, legal rulings (Valerie Plame), pressure to turn a profit, etc. have all undermined the provision of reporting in the public interest.
So Ellison is right in a way. Most people want the half-naked celebs. *sigh*
Erica, are you saying you won't read these guys because they have a penis? Because that would make you a man-hating sexist.
You should just unleash sometime and write a long post called "I really hate men and here's why". It would be a better read than most of your stuff.
I'm leaving now to visit the PI site, something I had no intention of doing before I saw that picture and something I've not done in two weeks. So yeah, worked on me.
Newspaper content has always been *basically* free. Circulation revenue was never a profit center. It doesn't even begin to pay for the cost of printing and delivering a paper. And you won't get people to pay more money for a less premium experience (viewing it on a screen) as Savage has said here before.
The solution is innovative advertising. @5 you're right that the market won't just "provide" out of thin air.
It used to, when newspapers had a complete publishing monopoly. But the monopoly is gone. Now, they have to WORK for their dough. So they should get working.
Period.
You are a clueless stupid piece of work.
Why? Corporate web filters that's why. No one's gonna snag you for checking out star babes on the Seattle PI.
Hey, I was reading the stock quotes...and stuff.
And it took you how long to figure this out?
Umm, Erica has a long and proud history of posting strident, self righteous, sex-negative, male bashing articles that you obviously haven't read. Much of her writing is lifted straight from Women's Studies circa 1993, which in my experience was completely and uncritically under Dworkin's spell. I encourage you to read Erica's musings on sexy Halloween costumes or the falsely accused "rapists" from the Duke Lacrosse team.
P.S. The idea that Erica is just like most educated women is an insult to both women and our educational system.
Can we stay on point with Erica's posts instead of engaging in an ad hominem pile-on? For once? It is so, so tiresome and transparent.