Outrageous! If anyone needs to be aborted it's future trailer trash, gangbangers and chollos. Bring back federal funding for the poor! I demand free abortion clinics in EVERY poor community. The less fuck-ups they can squirt out the better.
Twenty House Democrats voted AGAINST the Stupak-Pitts anti-choice amendment and voted FOR health care reform despite representing districts which lean Republican or are otherwise difficult. They're worthy of your support to show that when they stand up and do the right thing, progressives will have their backs.
They're ranked on this page from the most Republican district down towards the middle. Each of them deserves some support today -- $5 each, $10, whatever you can do:
Pelosi's right about that. They got the best bill they could reasonably be expected to have gotten through through by the slimmest of margins. She deserves kudos just for getting it through.
The question now is will Reid have the balls to hit the Lieberbag with the ultomato: vote for cloture and let the bill come to a vote or get thrown out of the D-caucus? Or will he successfully court the Snowe Queen to break ranks and get something real through so the bills can be reconciled? It's a big if. Reid hasn't been displaying much in the balls department.
They claim that they needed to add the amendment because even with it it passed with "the slimmest of margins", but as soon as they lock in 218 votes they let other do whatever they want.
They couldn't have passed it without the votes from the progressive caucus either, yet instead of using that as a reason to pass it WITHOUT the amendment, they say they need the blue dogs and add it.
If nothing else, this bill finally puts to rest the idea that we have a two-party system. We've developed into one of those multi-party countries like Israel in which the center parties need to appease the fringes in order to get anything done. It won't work here any better than it does there - reasonable members of parliament see that it's hogwash, and by definition the extremists can't be satisfied. Now that they've successfully bullied Congress into accepting this crazy demand, the next one (and the next and the next and the next...) is just around the corner.
You three are not understanding how our republic works. Here's how a bill becomes a law, boys and girls: Pelosi had two options before the final vote on the bill could take place. She could a) take a vote on the Stupak amendment, see if it wins, then proceed to final passage or b) refuse the vote on the Stupak amendment, allow Republicans to offer a Motion to Recommit and vote on the amendment (and more toxic garbage) anyway.
What's the difference between the two? The language on a motion to recommit is out of Pelosi and the Democrats' hands, thereby posing more risk. The Republicans could say they want a motion to recommit to "study the effects of health care legislation on government-funded abortions" and send the whole bill right back to the committees, which would effectively kill healthcare legislation cold. That motion to recommit, if it was offered by the Republicans, may have won. And instead of talking about how much you hate Nancy Pelosi, you would be talking about how you will never, ever get healthcare reform in this country.
Next time, educate yourselves before you all go off and shoot your mouths.
13: Give up. These wankers will whine about it regardless. They live in a world of assumptions and speculation.
And 14, Obama has voiced his concerns about the abortion amendment and has asked Congress to reconsider it before sending a final bill to him. So maybe you should just fucking relax until you see what the final bill looks like.
As the President would say, you "can't make the good the enemy of the perfect." Funny to see liberals get the reality check about the state of women's rights in the US though.
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Well, the last time we had a dem in office we gay people got shit on. Looks like this time it'll be women. I promise you Obama and the senate dems don't have spine enough to stop the roll back of rights. We all know this.
Throw basic women's healthcare under the bus. I mean especially poor women. They may as well not exist. Thanks, Democrats! You leave me with a ton of options. Oh, and for all of you out there saying it needed to be done in order to get the healthcare passed and blah blah blah? Call yourself a Democrat, not a Progressive, please. And fuck you.
21: I'll repeat what I said earlier because obviously you don't know how to read and don't actually follow the news, Obama doesn't support the House's action\ on abortion. I think you slog-fuckers spend too much time reading the Strager and not enough time actually reading real news. You're always at least three days behind what's actally happening.
If you're going to bitch, whine and moan all day, pick the right fucking topics.
Twenty House Democrats voted AGAINST the Stupak-Pitts anti-choice amendment and voted FOR health care reform despite representing districts which lean Republican or are otherwise difficult. They're worthy of your support to show that when they stand up and do the right thing, progressives will have their backs.
They're ranked on this page from the most Republican district down towards the middle. Each of them deserves some support today -- $5 each, $10, whatever you can do:
http://www.actblue.com/page/wevegotyourb…
The issue in the Senate is are they going to pass ANY health care reform at all -- not "is the Senate going to be more liberal than the House?"
The question now is will Reid have the balls to hit the Lieberbag with the ultomato: vote for cloture and let the bill come to a vote or get thrown out of the D-caucus? Or will he successfully court the Snowe Queen to break ranks and get something real through so the bills can be reconciled? It's a big if. Reid hasn't been displaying much in the balls department.
- Nancy Pelosi reminds me of Mia Farrow's neighbor in "Rosemary's Baby."
Sadly, my money's on both Reid and Lieberman for goatiness. I hope I'm wrong.
They claim that they needed to add the amendment because even with it it passed with "the slimmest of margins", but as soon as they lock in 218 votes they let other do whatever they want.
They couldn't have passed it without the votes from the progressive caucus either, yet instead of using that as a reason to pass it WITHOUT the amendment, they say they need the blue dogs and add it.
It's all bullshit.
You three are not understanding how our republic works. Here's how a bill becomes a law, boys and girls: Pelosi had two options before the final vote on the bill could take place. She could a) take a vote on the Stupak amendment, see if it wins, then proceed to final passage or b) refuse the vote on the Stupak amendment, allow Republicans to offer a Motion to Recommit and vote on the amendment (and more toxic garbage) anyway.
What's the difference between the two? The language on a motion to recommit is out of Pelosi and the Democrats' hands, thereby posing more risk. The Republicans could say they want a motion to recommit to "study the effects of health care legislation on government-funded abortions" and send the whole bill right back to the committees, which would effectively kill healthcare legislation cold. That motion to recommit, if it was offered by the Republicans, may have won. And instead of talking about how much you hate Nancy Pelosi, you would be talking about how you will never, ever get healthcare reform in this country.
Next time, educate yourselves before you all go off and shoot your mouths.
http://rules.house.gov/Archives/recommit…
Pelosi knows how to count to 218 and score a victory for Obama and the Democratic Party.
And 14, Obama has voiced his concerns about the abortion amendment and has asked Congress to reconsider it before sending a final bill to him. So maybe you should just fucking relax until you see what the final bill looks like.
That's the great thing about private insurance.
If you can afford it, you can get one with abortion services.
So, are you Lefties still in love with the masses?
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But I'm not joining the plan so long as it doesn't include abortion and reproductive services.
If you're going to bitch, whine and moan all day, pick the right fucking topics.