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Mind you, we mostly use Linux, with a few dual-boot Linux/Win machines around here, but Win wastes a heck of a lot of cycles on graphics that really makes no difference.
Better yet to get a mac capable of running windows and letting the operator decide on a platform.
I have never understood Seattle's obsession with Apple. I think it really speaks poorly of Seattle residents that they would not champion their own local company. Where is the pride?
FACT: Microsoft makes way more each time you buy a Mac (due to the software you end up using) than when you buy a Windows box.
Unless you go with totally open source software like most of the world uses. You know, Firefox, Opera, OpenOffice.
I think Linux might be a nicer label for McGinn...
""We're not just going to talk to important elected officials, nor are we just going to talk to the same old people who advise new mayors about how things should work—we're going to talk to everybody."
Sounds very Linux, and VERY un-Mac.
Mac would be all "We're going to only talk to important elected officials, because they're the experts at this, and clearly superior to Joe Common".
And Windows would say "We're going to only talk to the same old people, because they've been here so long they must know how it's done".
But, I might only be rebutting this Mac-praise of a post because I hate Macintosh and their smamy ads. Oh, you have no viruses? That's great, you forgot to mention that it's mainly because no-one has bothered to make Mac viruses yet, because you own diddly-squat of the PC market.
The city probably has two hundred Dells sitting around still in boxes at any given moment.
This is a good full-employment plan for McGinn, as every geek in the city has to learn all new stuff and then spend all of their waking moments trying to (a) make it work and (b) figure out why it's not compatible. There are, I'm sure, dozens of specialized apps the city runs that don't work on Macs (indeed, barely work at all).
And everybody knows that, while PCs are not "better than" Macs, or vice versa (the phrase doesn't even have meaning), Mac users are assuredly stupider than PC users on almost every measure.
I can almost here the collective *sigh* from here.
As for the iphones, I'd rather have one than a Blackberry any day, and they can actually be cheaper.
If you don't want a PC, that's FINE! Microsoft will find buyers for their stuff somewhere; don't you worry. Just don't say you have to use a PC because you feel sorry for the local company. Leave them a shred of dignity. Can you do that much?
Are you kidding? There's no way I'm going to buy crappy products out of loyalty. Do you throw a shit fit when you find out you'll be flying on an Airbus and not a Boeing plane?
Besides, Microsoft products are ubiquitous. Anyone not actively trying to avoid them will have some Microsoft products on their computer.
The mayoral campaign was nothing but a power grab by the local telecom giants, wake up sheeple!!!
Might be nice to get full disclosure on this from Mike. What is he hiding?
Why spend the extra money? Our new mayor is too dang hip to use what the lowly city employees use - we're not his people, clearly.
And now they think they should use them in City Hall...these guys are headed for a fucking financial cliff and they want iPhones and Macs? Seriously, could you look more like the privileged upper middle class college educated white liberals you are?
The Seattle city government is not all going to convert to Mac just because the McGinn team is more comfortable with Macs. It's not brain science to get Macs and Windows machines to coexist and talk to each other.
It's probably healthy if we have a city government that familiarizes itself with both platforms (and Linux too) to sone degree.
...I say this as someone happy with a Windows XP desktop machine plus an iPhone.
I remember Obama caught shit for wanting to use a device with poor security. How's that work with an iphone?
In the middle of its worst budget crisis?
Earth calling...
You'd all be complaining if McGinn said "I will take time to learn this Windows Vista or XP thing" surely.
(oh, and remember way back in january when the same thing happened to the Obama administration?)
Note: this comment has nothing to do with Macs vs. PCs. I would say the same exact thing if the Mayor's office was run on Macs and a new Mayor asked if they could switch to PCs.
Trying to save money by refusing to give your executive team the tools to maximize their productivity is penny wise and pound foolish. Thank god you idiots aren't in charge of any sizable amount of money.
Right, that's just what Seattle residents should do: take pride in a company that makes shitty products with preplanned problems that can be "fixed" and "upgraded" for the next release you're supposed to shell out for.
Fuckin' A, man... Just because it's next door in the fucking EASTSIDE doesn't mean we're going to reflexively take pride in it...
DUMBASS!
I'd suggest Big Blue hardware on every desktop (64 proc and 4TB ram). It'll keep the electrical and hvac unions happy, at least.
If they want to spend their own money switching every computer system platform that's fine by me. If Mike, and a few other select staffers prefer a mac over a PC, or need something that's exclusively on mac I see no problem with it. I'm a little concerned with the price of upgrades, that are usually necessary for some software upgrades, something that also makes windows cheaper as even something like windows XP can play 99% of the programs.
I had no idea McGinn was a mac guy, but as you say whatever works for you. Technology kicks ass even if it's way overpriced. I don't think it really matters what you use, so long as you get whatever it is you want done. I think in terms of social media iPhone was really created ot serve that crowd, but I would hope when the campaign is over and the real work starts to get done a few of those staffers will think twice about a blackberry. :p
those who question their superiority are morons.
however in the grownup world there would be compatibility issues, it would look bad re:hometown microsoft and most important- mcginn only wishes he were cool enough for mac.
it is a typical style over substance shallow hipster gimmick.
I'm ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-L-0s-7-…
Unless this isn't actually about work... I hear the iPhone has lots of nifty apps.
Also, I thought the first sentence was the stupidest sentence in this post, but no, it's actually the second: http://www.tuaw.com/2009/01/02/apple-mar…
Now if you're talking about an office setting specifically, you may be right.
OH SHIT
If he decides to use Omni Group software, that's also a very capable local outfit.
It is possible to select a lower-end PC that is cheaper than an equivalently geared lower-end Mac. Machines geared for desktop publishing or video editing require higher end gear and more RAM; that's where Macs are more competitive on overall price. It is also possible to equip a high-end PC with gear that simply don't exist for Macs; those are high-end gamer systems.
The iPhone is obviously not the cheapest phone on the market, either, but Apple is selling a lot of them, despite AT&T.
You all understand what a deficit is right?
You want to get worked up about stupid waste in the city? Get your panties in a bunch about this: There are thousands of reams of city letterhead with Greg Nickel's name on it that are going to get trashed come the inauguration. Every department, for some reason, has to have the Mayor's name on their letterhead. I'm sure it's some custom that dates back to the founding of the city, but why are we still doing it?
But no - it's much more exciting to get in some dreary argument about a handful of computers and cell phones.
Honestly. Mac vs. Windows has been presented as something akin to English vs Japanese. As a user of both, I can say it's more like Swedish vs. Danish. At this point they're so similar, there's little justification for much fuss.
Well... Aside from the fact that Macs sometimes do snow crashes. I've never seen a Windows machine do that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxmMufSin…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxmMufSin…
@23, great point. Hopefully more folks will read that.
You all should be happy they are considering a change to Apple just for the SECURITY reasons. Unless you want the mayor and his staff running around with laptops that could be breached easily at any given time....
The new versions won't work on old computers as Windows 7 requires 1 GB of RAM and 16 GB available disk space. This is 8 times the RAM requirement of Windows XP which has been discontinued.
So this is a pretty smart time to switch to Macs if an organization is so inclined.
And for those who think you have to use Microsoft programs on a Mac, that is also utter nonsense. The Mac comes with all the programs you need and works great right out of the box. Normal people never have to buy Microsoft software to do word-processing, email or surf the net.
Not only that, you won't have to worry about getting all those viruses that PC's do.
The mayors office will spend less on tech support and general hair pulling and time wasted in the long run. And when the rest of you come down with a virus they'll still have functioning computers.
Of course, you can run Windows on a Mac and and not even in a special window, AND that requires a Windows license which means Microsoft still gets their cut. Which will avert the layoffs in Redmond that McGinn is going to cause by not using a Dell.