spraypaint on cement!!! omg!! the destructive forces of kundalini and kali coiled into one!! douchebag artists!! be gone!!! you are seriously instrumental to the collapse of civilization!!!
um, well jay leno too, rachel maddow, jon stewart, sarah palin, and all the other douchebag newsdorks. actually, cancel that first paragraph. these media doushebag artists are the more immanent threat.
Most taggers put their tags on top of someone else's art - mural or building - because they think they're entitled to 15 hours of fame like most reality TV stars.
Sadly, some rags even laud them as "artists" - but we all know who those people are ...
Charles, you seem to be very pro graffiti in your rants. Can you please explain what good comes from this? Seems to me it's someone making the city look like shit and possibly marking his gang territory. In what way is there anything positive in this?
people who endorse graffiti largely do so because it somehow fits with the fraudelent bohemian image they're trying to project. I am sure the minute someone paints their gagrage door or fence, then their support for graffiti turns to condemnation
@1, it is something less destructive. When I was living in Chicago, the general rule of thumb was that the gang members tagging weren't the gang members shooting in the streets. If this is the extent of someone's pissed off retaliation against the world, it's not so horrible (even if it is visual slander against the arts).
@5, agreed. I suppose if Seattle suffered a terrible enough natural disaster coupled with political ineptitude and malice, Banksy might stop by. Hardly seems worth it, though...
@9, only if it's ugly. Of course I'm not making a blanket endorsement of graffiti any more than I would say I appreciated every artist's work within a given genre.
@8: "Can you please explain what good comes from this? "
The appeal (to some) is that It sticks a thumb in the eye of "the man" and his property. Not surprisingly, most who support graffiti are property-deficient.
The graffiti I love is the stuff in the Battery Street Tunnel that they do with sponges, writing in white on the grimy tunnel walls. Every few months the city cleans the tunnel and it's all gone, ready to start over. I've seen some really funny stuff in there.
it is illegible and ugly - but whats worse is that its gonna cost a pretty penny to remove it, when you factor in the workers, (lunch breaks, overtime) the cops, materials , and the traffic delays(cars and public) - thats not just sticking it to the man, thats sticking it to the whole of the community.
Eureka, CA struck the best compromise I've seen in the battle between graffiti and clean-up costs/property value concerns. There was a large, abandoned, and partially dismantled brick/stone structure slightly off the beaten path, but not by much. It read like modern day ruins. Anyway, it was covered in graffiti, some of it fairly impressive. It was never cleaned (if anyone cared to fix the property, it would mostly likely have to be razed due to structural damage), but the work was constantly being refreshed. Despite the obviously prolific graffiti artists in the area, there was scarcely any graffiti elsewhere.
And of course, again, there's Banksy, whose work raises property values. Obviously, he's a rare exception, but I do find it amusing.
Best tag I've ever seen: Someone wrote 'jelus?' on the freeway ramp wall near the Paramount, then a few days later 'no, not really' was written just below it.
I'm sad I don't have a picture of the brilliance.
Despite the obviously prolific graffiti artists in the area, there was scarcely any graffiti elsewhere.
I'm glad it worked in Eureka, and I'm pretty sure Seattle has something similar in SODO. After designating a wall to graffiti, incidents of graffiti in the immediate vicinity skyrocketed.
@30
basically, I'm saying, someone did tag my fence recently & I will still <3 black people, even if one of them happens to punch me someday. Actions of one does not equal actions of all.
@33 aw, that is sad, SODO is such a gorgeous area, sad to see it ruined. especially the bus corridor....man I miss those beautiful grey & off-white walls.
Tagging is the equivilent of a dog pissing on a wall. I read it as "ignorant asshole was here."
Ditto for any unwanted paint on private property.
Graffiti art on public property makes me happy, though. I love the clever little cartoons, the stencils, the big commissioned walls...it's part of the fun of living in a city.
There is some really nice artwork in the busway there, and it's my understanding that it began without official sanction, just some folks taking it upon themselves to art up the place.
Conversely, Georgetown has been hit this week with a rash of ugly, stupid, destructive not-even-tagging. Kids will be kids. shrug
Banksy, however. Now, there is a true artiste. I actually have plans to get a Banksy tattoo.
Charles, if your rosy Marxist glasses allow you to look at this and see something along the lines of "Cool, urban warrior! Stick it to the man, yeah!", then you're just being dumb. As 16 said, there's a whole lot more people gonna be 'stuck' through this intensely juvenile action.
@ 38,"I read it as 'ignorant asshole was here.'" You read it one way, I read it another. I know these guys and used to rep a couple crews back through the 90's, so seeing that extinguisher wally brings a smile to my lips. @5 One of the KYT originators owns his own sign painting business (local) and he has a degree in fine art. Here is an example of one of his character's on the left: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowlinball4… and another diddle http://www.flickr.com/photos/philon/2973…http://www.flickr.com/photos/8956366@N03… A lot of these kids start out scrawling tags as kids and then grow into their styles through their teenage years. Pretty talented I would say!
um, well jay leno too, rachel maddow, jon stewart, sarah palin, and all the other douchebag newsdorks. actually, cancel that first paragraph. these media doushebag artists are the more immanent threat.
Most taggers put their tags on top of someone else's art - mural or building - because they think they're entitled to 15 hours of fame like most reality TV stars.
Sadly, some rags even laud them as "artists" - but we all know who those people are ...
@5, agreed. I suppose if Seattle suffered a terrible enough natural disaster coupled with political ineptitude and malice, Banksy might stop by. Hardly seems worth it, though...
The appeal (to some) is that It sticks a thumb in the eye of "the man" and his property. Not surprisingly, most who support graffiti are property-deficient.
what is that, 12 feet high? taller? 20 feet?
this is also about visibility. how many people will see that?
kill yr televison
hit it right on the head.
and for the rest, get over it, graffiti isn't going away anytime soon.
Yeah. That.
@ 14:
That, too!
Kill your television, ditch the car?
And of course, again, there's Banksy, whose work raises property values. Obviously, he's a rare exception, but I do find it amusing.
I'm sad I don't have a picture of the brilliance.
stencil said: "Fight for Beauty"
and below, in paint pen:
"& the Beast"
internet FTW
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aimeedars/2…
/sarcasm
Uptight Seattlelites. You're city's awesome, it's just too bad that lame asses like you ruin it.
I'm glad it worked in Eureka, and I'm pretty sure Seattle has something similar in SODO. After designating a wall to graffiti, incidents of graffiti in the immediate vicinity skyrocketed.
basically, I'm saying, someone did tag my fence recently & I will still <3 black people, even if one of them happens to punch me someday. Actions of one does not equal actions of all.
and therefore completely pointless in addition to being ugly, trite, and derivative.
Ditto for any unwanted paint on private property.
Graffiti art on public property makes me happy, though. I love the clever little cartoons, the stencils, the big commissioned walls...it's part of the fun of living in a city.
There is some really nice artwork in the busway there, and it's my understanding that it began without official sanction, just some folks taking it upon themselves to art up the place.
Conversely, Georgetown has been hit this week with a rash of ugly, stupid, destructive not-even-tagging. Kids will be kids. shrug
Banksy, however. Now, there is a true artiste. I actually have plans to get a Banksy tattoo.
Charles, if your rosy Marxist glasses allow you to look at this and see something along the lines of "Cool, urban warrior! Stick it to the man, yeah!", then you're just being dumb. As 16 said, there's a whole lot more people gonna be 'stuck' through this intensely juvenile action.
Banksy, though. How gauche.
K.ill Y.our T.elevision