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Are you by any chance a believer (I won't say "practitioner" because the evidence points against it) in a certain Religion of Peace ®? Doesn't that religion reject the Old Testament in favor of the New? Wasn't its prophet/martyr a preacher of Love, acceptance, and equality? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite? What happens to hypocrites in that book you idolize?
I remember when my step-daughter was 5. Her father was involved in some custody lawsuits with my then wife. He kept trying to explain lawyers, custody, divorce, depositions and courts to her. I finally told him, "Shithead, we really need to get her to understand that dirty, balled up socks stuffed in the toes of her shoes will make her feet hurt. That is her big problem in life right now. She isn't going to understand all that other stuff. Just tell her you love her and that she needs to check her shoes before putting them on."
That's right. And sometimes, such as in your case, they then grow up to be hateful, bigoted people with internet access, a keyboard, and a small percentage of a clue. Too bad love and acceptance weren't taught to you growing up. You and Loveschild should double date at a Klan fire some day.
It is up to the mother and the father to instruct their faith and moral values to their kids. When others outside the parental unit start to impart their views without the parental consent then it does create confusion in a child's mind needless to say it also induces them to disobedience and subversion against the parents.
My husband and I spend a lot of time around the small children of family members and friends and neighbors. They know we're together, they knew we're married, and they sometimes ask questions, but by in large THEY DON'T CARE. We're not indoctrinating anyone's kids. It's just that we exist.
That's the story I was referencing.
You're the only one who is confused.
The kid's OK with two people who love each other. You just want to believe that kids are confused so you can maintain your status as a self - righteous, concern troll.
"Love thy neighbor as you love yourself. There is no higher commandment than this."
You should try it some time.
remember?-
Vice is a monster of so frightful mien,
As to be hated needs but to be seen;
Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face,
we first endure, then pity, then embrace
Now I'm going to go play ping pong.
end of story..
and now you can go back to foaming and ranting.
and touchy.
the troll only points out that kids being OK with something says nothing about the quality of what they are OK with.
They can be indocterinated to accept anything.
in the Middle East there are beaming proud parents making videos of little kids swearing to kill infidels.
and Hitler (yes, HITLER!) raised a generation of loyal little Nazis by getting to then young.
and @2, @4; it's not about what someone's else's religious beliefs may or may not be- try to focus. we realize your anti-religion Tourettes makes it hard to control what you post but try- we're pulling for you...
@7- @1 was a nuetral statement- you're being a little quick on the draw.
the only thing to be concluded from the precious video is that if kids are exposed to homosexuality early and it is presented as a positive they will believe it.
and that someone's kids have.
many of you coo and gush and get all weepy.
and with good reason.
your Homosexual Agenda hard at work and bearing results.
what it says nothing about is if homosexuality is a good thing.
what are the social implications several generations down of teaching kids that homosexual behavior and pairings are just as good as heterosexual behavior and marriage.
and it doesn't address the public health implications of homosexual behavior.
cute kids and cute lesbian couples are great PR.
but good PR often masks bad policy.
tsk tsk
Still hypersensitive....
The broader point is that exposure to anything, even something 'frightful', leads to acceptance.
It doesn't say that homosexuality is a vice.
Or, for that matter, that it isn't.
How do you define vice?
Because vices also "just are"...
There are 'good' and 'bad' people.
And there are also 'good' and 'bad' behaviors.
How do you define 'vice'?
When I was a kid, I thought that you had to be married to have children. I remember being extremely confused when my neighbor's daughter had a baby w/o a husband. Is that indoctrination? Should my neighbor's daughter lived in shame and in hiding because it didn't fit some people's moral paradigm? Or should I just learn, as I did, that everyone has a different life and prerogatives? btw. I don't plan on having children until I'm married.
Thanks for posting this, Dan. It brought me joy.
"He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid."
Israeli society back then was a tribal one surrounded ( even more so than today ) by hostile kingdoms that could easily destroy them. In such a warring environment, strict cohesion and observance of what elders instructed was necessary for survival. Such is not the case in today's world. It is also worthy to mention the "profligate and a drunkard" part since hardly anyone could associate such vices with infancy and childhood. Clearly this was meant in reference to young adults and up, the same adults that Israeli tribal society counted for it's defense against hostile neighbors.
Finally, the Bible doesn't end in the Old Testament, there's something in it called the New Testament .... Brought about the glorious coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I'm sure you must remember it somewhat ( perhaps ? ), you know, the Mediator of the New Covenant.
Out of wedlock childrearing is a social ill with heavy consequences. And it is a perfect example of a behavior that has, by exposure, become widely accepted. Acceptance has not, however, removed the high social cost.
Some lifestyle choices and prerogatives are harmful to society.
But good PR can sell most anything...
You think children should be taught to hate same-sex couples, and that it's even okay to have them put to death if the majority thinks that's necessary. So why is indoctrinating children with your beliefs better than indoctrinating them with ideas of love and tolerance?
I'm not going to argue with you. It won't change your mind.
By the same token none of your postings are going to change mine.
I just don't understand why you waste your time trying to convince people who are never going to agree with you. Wouldn't you be happier at site the agrees with your views? Not judging...just think you'd be happier in the long run if you don't try to control the whole world.
Anyways, I have life not connected to my keyboard to attend to. I'm going to go play ping pong.
Please stop exposing me to your atrocious spelling. I do not want to be indoctrinated (only one E) into your vice-ridden cult of flagrant grammar-and-spelling disregard. It wouldn't be right.
Great video.
The followers of Dr Seuss serve a false prophet and must be destroyed.
...but I digress.
That's the problem Southern, no outsider should be inciting contraction to the parental teachings unless the parents themselves consent to it. Parents who want to teach their kids that homosexual behavior is fine can and should be allowed to do so. Likewise parents that know that homosexual behavior is not healthy should be allowed to impart their knowledge and moral teachings to their children without having to worry about homosexual teachers or those sympathetic to the gay lobby coming to their kids schools to 'explain' to them about what's a hubby and hubby or wifey and wifey and how much they dig each other. Because that is brainwashing not only of impressionable young minds but of impressionable young minds in a captive environment in which the parents are absent to reject or approve such attempts.
not to worry.
in time, you'll embrace the eextra 'e'...
i'm going to go play ping pong now, you can play too if you want
What is so amusing is that there is no clearer example of indoctrination than religious instruction.
Also... how do you know that the people in this video aren't (a) that child's parents or (b) talking with him on his parents' request? You don't, obviously. Anyway, children are not as easily confused as you seem to think. A child can easily accept that 2 boys might want to get married just as much as a boy and a girl might want to. It's only after their bigoted parents have indoctrinated them to believe otherwise that they become confused.
Children CAN be taught that just about anything is right.
Good thing some parents are using that fact to teach them right things, like acceptance of diversity, love, honesty, integrity of self, respect, and appreciation of those things in others.
no outsider should be inciting contradiction to the parental teachings unless the parents themselves consent to it.
It's an adorable video, and someday I'll learn to skip reading the stomach-churning hateful comments.
There's no evidence that homosexuality is unhealthy or even "unnatural", in spite of your claims. I'm interested in this blanket statement, though. Is it always the case that "parental teachings" shouldn't be contradicted? Some parents will teach their children that, for instance, the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but in many schools they'll learn that it's significantly older than that. That's a clear case of "inciting contradiction", but is it wrong?
If only everyone were as beautiful and brilliant as that kid, we'd have a lot less worries in the world.
She saw me kiss my boyfriend, and took the opportunity to inform me that boys can't kiss boys (she was four at the time, she's seven now), they can only kiss girls. I took the opportunity to ask her where she learned it ("I don't know"), and make clear that there's nothing wrong with boys kissing boys or boys kissing girls (in the right context, of course).
Now girls kissing girls...ewwww!!!! Needless to say, she now spends more time amongst gay men (and the occasional lesbian) than straight men...and loves Lady GaGa...that's about as bad as it has been.
To put this in perspective - that same year, she was in a preschool that is majority African American (she was one of two white kids in her class). One of the black kids was mean to her one day, and in the car on the way home, she told me that she didn't like black people.
Aghast, I asked her why, and she explained that a kid was mean to her who happened to be black. I reminded her that her best friends was black ("oh yeah!"), and asked her if a white kid was mean to her, would she hate all white people? ("I guess not.").
We talked it out, and she understood that taking the actions of one person, and judging an entire group that they happen to belong to makes no sense.
Kids sometimes need explanations as to why their bigotry is wrong, and I have found with mine (and, obviously, with this boy), they pick up on it pretty damn quickly.
Hurrah!
Oh for flip sake! Stop speaking for everyone. Stop making presumptions. Has this child's parent or legal guardian come crying on your shoulder that this big bad gay couple was "inciting contradictions" to there parental teachings over Thanksgiving? Have they? Making assumptions makes you look bad, Loveschild.
God Loves Slavery!
Racism is cool too! Yaaaaaay GOD!
God Hates Foreign Wives!!!
I wonder if a behavior that increases you odds of getting AIDS 3700% (three thousand seven hundred percent...) would be considered a 'vice'?
Or @49, 'unhealthy'?
Teach a child to accept others, and yu teach him to accept himself. You have my pity for never having been given that loving lesson.
So, if you're around a white racist bigot's children, LC, you should probably act violent, thuggish, stupid and promiscuous. Otherwise that child might get the wrong idea, that child might start to think of blacks as being regular people, individuals like the rest of us. And that would be indoctrination.
So I think that that gay couple in that video should've respected the homophobia of the parents, and raped that child, or fisted each other in front of him or something. Because by acting like a normal loving couple, he now thinks of them as one, instead of as dangerous moral perverts. And that's indoctrination.
To quote a Doobie Bros song...
"what a fool believes he sees"...
yes, yes, you could see the whites of his eyes and his chattering teeth like he had just seen a g-g-ghost!
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*We're not all Christocentric, though. Following His teachings on Peace, Love, Equality, Community, Integrity and Simplicity is our form of religious practice. We don't need idols, leaders, books, slogans, labels or dogma. We don't need everyone to be the same as us, either. We respect all people of good conscience who love and respect their fellow man, regardless of whatever their religious calling or lack of it might be.
Also, I love the claim that stoning one's own child to death is a historical phenomenon produced by the social conditions of the ancient Hebrews (but I thought the bible was word-for-word the will of God! How could it be influenced by contemporaneous social conditions???), but the idea that "A man shall not lay with a man as he lays with a woman" has nothing to do with - oh, say, the ancient Hebrews' investment in producing as many children as possible, or steering followers away from pagan cults that practiced homosexual rituals, or misogynist, antiquated beliefs about male dominance and power.
How can you possibly defend taking one verse in historical context, and taking another as the full and unmediated will of God? That's patently absurd!
I'd sure like to give Calen a big hug. His parents, too.
Okay, I'm going to play ping-pong now.
10 000 new views in the last hour
I hope this video makes it's mark on our collective conscious and this kid gets to grow up being "that kid"
This video was beautiful!
This video just goes to show that children don't hate... they are TAUGHT to hate. Hatred is a learned behavior -- dare I say, a "vice".
Out of wedlock babies consume huge amounts of public dollars and are everybody's business.
that all sounds very fashionable...
does your "Christianity" include calling people you never met hypocrites?
is your great big enlightened Christian heart big enough to accept people with different ideas about social policy than you?
Hypocrites and Haters come in all flavors, you know....
Juuuuust for yoo...
Bible versus? We Pick And Choose!!!
Video seems to have been set to private though.
I'm not saying you're not allowed to BE a hypocrite if you want to, and I'm not judging you. I'm just rejecting your argument based on it.
http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2010/03/11
my my you seem quite convinced of yourself.
marriage is a highly regulated social institution that affects everyone in society.
we may differ on some of the details as to how it is to be best regulated but those regulations are applied equally to everyone with no hatred, exclusion, xenophobia, or persecution.
Yes, so "highly regulated" that you can go to Las Vegas, pick up a prostitute at the craps table, and marry her at a drive-thru wedding chapel where the priest is dressed like a Klingon.
You fail.
not if you're a woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9PJgs9UT…