Blogs Mar 22, 2010 at 5:30 pm

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"I would prefer to yell epithets and honk my air-horn all day to just asking for change, 'cause I want to give something BACK, y'know."
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Drums are pretty annoying.
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Yes, urban areas with street musicians are just so awful. Let's get rid of them all. I hate New Orleans too. Actually, I'm going to just perforate my eardrums...hold on a sec. There.
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@1: He's always got money, so I think you're just being snotty. Just a hunch here.

Ah, but as I'd said before... here comes the crackdown! The Council will make sure Billy is gone, the other drummers, the string instruments, the kids and their dogs, the old lady and her jesus cart, then we move on to mobile salespeople and eventually all the tourists.
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I've seen probably 20 different street drummers, and only one, MAYBE two, showed actual technique and was worth listening to at all.

Maybe, as #1 suggests, you're just kind of annoying.
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The horrible drum banging was the only bad part of working downtown when I worked there. Thank goddess the noise is over.
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Damn...he was a cool guy and he was a HELLUVA lot better to listen to than the creepy black guy screaming about Jesus and the Seattle PD and whatever else is the flavor of the moment.

I'd rather listen to a busker of any sort than that fucktard.
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@4 Street musicians yes, dudes banging on upturned buckets no.
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Wait until he gets the bill for not having medical insurance.

That's going to be FUN!
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The bucket-and-bottle brigades drown out the other street musicians, so fie and pox.
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What he calls music is just noise pollution to a lot of us. Three cheers to Mr. Nordstrom, the City Council, and the Police Department. Get a shoe shine kit or something, my friend. Leave the public air space alone.
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The loud bucket banging downtown has stopped? This just made my day.
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As long as they don't spit on me when I don't give them money, we're cool.
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Busking drummers are the root of all evil.

I kinda wish there was a place where Busking drummers, Scientologists and LaRouchites could all go together and live in some cohabitative unifying peace... say, hell.
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He could probably still go get a chalkboard and just scratch his fingernails across it all day. There's probably no specific restriction on that.

I mean, since he wants to give something back.
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Glad to see the SPD hard at work tackling the HUGE problem of street musicians at 5th and Pine instead of cleaning up the drug problems over at 3rd and Pine.
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#6 - so true. Playing an actual drum kit decently is infinitely harder than banging on buckets in rhythm, and yet it's become a staple of "street music." Or maybe I mean "therefore", and not "and yet." Whatever.

I blame you, Bucket Boy from the early-90's Levi's commercial.
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Somehow I doubt "Mr. Nordstrom" was walking around taking pictures of drummers, those guys were more likely working for their pocket change. LOUD AS HELL bucket drummers are annoying, intrusive and one out of 100 actually sounds interesting. Most are no better than monkeys beating on plastic. Screw you whiners. I see you every damn day. Read some poetry out loud and maybe I'll throw a pack of sugar in your bucket.
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That drummer is the most annoying. He is awful. Some buskers just are, face it. I also hate those guys who sing "You are My Sunshine" in front of the original Starbucks in the Market. I enjoy Emory's hoola-hoop guitar thing, those young folk singer's also in front of Starbucks and even that clanky piano player. And I am not setting up for a South Park episode reference about buskers (those Peruvian guys)...
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This never would have happened if Frederick & Nelson were still in business.....

(OK, maybe it would have. But I have to have my obligatory F&N reference whenever anyone mentions Nordstrom)

I don't know from this drummer. But can they please get rid of the bagpiper by The Bon?
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I definitely prefer to hear street musicians, bucket drummers included, rather than just be asked for spare change.
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The police can't stop him, he's on a mission from god. He's gotta get the band back together!
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I love the drummers! The Starbucks quartet! The piano guy! The little indians with blankets and pipes! I was once brought to tears by a young man playing a broken ass pos cello on the corner of 1st and Pike. Those folks make the otherwise sketchy, grimy, loud, annoying downtown experience feel full of life and inspiration, and I am so grateful for them whenever I am downtown. I miss living in New Orleans, I miss street music, I miss people living out of doors. It's a sad, sad day when we start prosecuting people for the crime of being poor, and an even sadder one when we start prosecuting them for the crime of making music. (Regardless of your opinions of their talent or the credibility of their instruments, it is still music.)

I wish with everything that I have that we could get the SPD to turn their attentions to the never ending parade of LEAF BLOWERS that fill the city with sound pollution, and leave the goddamned bucket drummers alone.
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There are traffic laws that specify how loud radios can be by how far away you can hear the music.

The same should apply here. So it can be 10 ft or 25 ft but not nothing.

I mean, there are plenty of people walking around Seattle having conversations that really annoy me. At what point are they so loud I can tell them to shut up?

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@20 - Emory is the bestest busker in all of Seattle!
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Will in Seattle: if you fall under the poverty line, you qualify for medicare starting in 2014, which qualifies as "insurance". So no, he won't be getting a bill.
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i hate to say it, but i think i've heard that guy before and i think it violated my ears... i guess i'm with "the man" here. ouch.
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I might be more sympathetic if he wasn't so goddamned obnoxious, and couldn't be heard from blocks away.

I, for one, won't miss him.
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I watched a couple of drummers in front of Nordstrom over the course of half an hour make seven or eight drug deals. A lot of drummers just do this as a front. Drop a big bill in the hat and one of the guys hands them a baggie of meth or crack or whatever. Then some guy came by with a backpack of iPods and traded one for some drugs. Maybe this guy is legit, but most of the "drummers" in this location are not. Nonetheless, the drumming is fucking obnoxious.
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@27 - did you know you get a 10 percent "finders fee" for reporting people who have unreported income that didn't report it?

tik. tik. tik.
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Kelly O. Nice try in trying to find a martyr for The Stranger's crusade against Burgess' public safety efforts. The whole "Mr. Nordstrom" bit was a nice touch. Try again.
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Erm, this guy specifically is banned from several downtown shops. Mostly for loitering and harassing employees. At least if he's drumming, he's annoying everyone?
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@22- no one else does. Bucket drummers are the perfect symbol of Seattle passive-aggressiveness. NO ONE (BUT #22) wants to hea rthem, and they must know it/ Yet they keep on. Why would I give them money to do what is annoying? JFC
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What BS:The drumming is not loud enough to to drown out traffic noise cops are out to hassle buskers and they look for any excuse. First they come for the drummer...
http://stillahippiesnewsblog.wordpress.c…
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Hey - if these drummers of shit can impose their crap noise on the rest of us then I can stand infront of them with a mega phone and yell at them to shut the fuck up, non stop, for hours everyday, and make everyone in the offices, shops and apartments all around listen to it.
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O my God that's WIll! When I worked at Seattle Best on first and PIke (now Starbucks) he frequented our corner with sign that said, "Give me change or I'll kick you." A man with insight at Deja Vu saw an opportunity and gave Will a pair of slacks, a walkie talkie and a job, and for a few short weeks Will was employed handing out free passes to Deja Vu. They let him go when he was accused of selling the free passes, but for a quick glimpse it was one dude helping another dude out... which I wish to God we saw more of.
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Isn't it about time for some roving teens to beat the crap out of him?

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its more industrious than just being a drunken panhandler but i'd rather they played stand up bass
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i like the drummers, and anyone doing anything to make street life a little less mundane, including the bible thumpers and the young socialists party. I can see how I might change my mind if I worked within earshot though.
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Move to NYC Billy. You will make more money and it's acceptable to be a drummer here. Seattle may be a liberal city but its still houses some pretty lame people. Who doesn't want to hear awesome drumming? Seattle is filled with squares.
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Sick of all these idiots. Shut 'em up so I can here the beautiful sound of idling automobiles and buses.
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Is there a way I can pay his fine? Downtown isn't downtown without bucket drumming.
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Good riddance. This is long overdue. These drummers act like they doing us all a favor by being constantly obnoxious.
They were also generating resentment towards street people and making it harder for talented buskers as noted by the comments above.
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So much for a defense of freedom on the margins.
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Isn't there some sort of a busker license possibility? I love real buskers downtown, but I don't think of this guy as a real street musician.
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Too bad drummer dude isn't a Hare Krsna, cause those mother fuckers would've had a lawyer and a press conference before close of business today. And SPD and the City would be backing down immediately.

It frightens me how painfully little some Slog denizens seem to understand or respect the fundamental freedoms accorded by the Constitution.

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Guys! Has anyone actually heard this guy? You can't just bang a conga drum or bucket with a stick (and no rhythm) and expect people to appreciate your contribution. Actually, you can. But Jesus Christ, I think about paying this guy NOT to. If you're gonna do a little song and dance for spare change, then do it well!

Oh, and under the dome of the Convention Center, the sounds carries very well. So yeah, knock it the fuck off.
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@47: At what threshold does one qualify as a "real street musician"? What's the test?

As someone who prefers percussion over strings, there's nothing more annoying for me to hear than some acoustic guitar echoing down the subterranean corridors of my local public transit system.

I don't remember hearing this Billy dude in Seattle, but in Toronto, one guy who's been performing at Yonge and Dundas in front of the old Eaton's has done so for over 20 years, and he draws immense crowds each and every time. He's a bit of a local legend, and tourists dig him, too.
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Tesla -- I'm guessing the requirements are rhythm (sounds like this guy has none, according to ear-witnesses) and some minimal level of musicianship (ditto). I agree, percussion is always exciting on the street when it's done right. When it's not, it's just hitting something with a stick.
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@48 The Constitution does not provide a blank check in this regard. There have always been time, place, and method restrictions on speech. For example I can hold a rally outside of the Capital, but I can't go into the Senate Chamber and start yelling. Likewise I can communicate my displeasure with a companies labor practices on the sidewalk outside of their offices, but I can't go to the CEOs house with 200 of my friends and yell Union songs all night long.

This is especially true when the activity is commercial such as regulations on advertising cigarettes in proximity to schools.

Some level of street performance is protected, but cities can and should make laws both for safety reason and to prevent, say, some dumbass from banging loudly on buckets all day long. Its that whole balancing of rights thing we forget sometimes.
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This is like Christmas for me right now. Bucket drummers are f*cking annoying for people who rent downtown and I was getting ready to move out after four years because it has gotten so bad. Looks like I will staying put! (=
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Is he going to pay his fine?
Is he going to stop drumming?
Are noise tickets for noisy bars or neighbors next?
I doubt it.

What does this $23 ticket accomplish, aside from fodder for the slog? What a stupid waste of taxes paying police officers to write noise tickets to homeless people and city workers to process ticket (or non-payment of ticket) paperwork.
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it is not a drum, he is not a drummer.

he is a bucketer
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Billy needs to learn to play the tuba. Seattle doesn't sound the same without the late, great Tuba Man. Any time I walk past a busker, I cry out "Needs more TUBA!".
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That's a shame because Billy is one of the more talented people downtown and I like his drumming. The doo-wop guys down at the Market are good, too.
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@54. Police ticket people for noise all the time.
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Fuck all you people. Let the dude drum. Maybe make him move around day to day if it's such a problem. WHICH IT'S NOT.
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@59 I don't think you get it. It's not drumming if it's just a thumping drone and out of time. I work two blocks from his usual spot and it SUCKS. Maybe you should ask the Cheesecake Factory employees how they feel on the matter? Can I sit in traffic in a car and bleat my horn, 'cause it would about as appealing as hearing this nonstop "drumming".
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Is this a fucking joke?

These cops couldn't do something more productive with their time and walk over to 2nd & 3rd where cops are actually needed?

Fuck you, Mister Nordstrom, for cunting up the more pressing matters in our city. I hope your store tanks this quarter.
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If you guys hate it so much why don't you pony up a couple bucks to buy him some guitar lessons.

Or maybe there should be a law to do that, or a social service, or a vocation program run by the state.

Or, maybe you should grow a spine and just say something about it to him - to his face - rather than being a slimy internet whiner.
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@62

I tried that once with the other really loud bongo guy and it worked. He moved around the corner, sparing our apartment building.

This guy on the other hand is a dick. Him and his Hot Topic aggro buddies talk a lot of sh*t to passers-by. Why do bucket drummers hate Americans?
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I would much rather see someone busking, juggling or doing *something* instead of playing the humiliating "spare change?" pity role. And I give buskers money too. You don't like bucket drumming? Perhaps you simply walk away, or go back into The Gap or "Anthropologie" and keep shopping. Or go back to your nice, warm home and your mashed potatoes and episodes of 'Lost'.

That said, I agree most bucket drummers aren't very good, and might want to consider another, more melodic and portable instrument.

But I still think we have to keep a space for people who have nothing to climb back out. And I'd rather that space be busking than burglary and mugging.
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Banging on a pickle bucket is not drumming.
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uh, I love the drummers (esp the good ones) and I'd take them over lazy panhandlers any day of the week.

If you don't like street musicians, you kind of suck.

also, the Nordstroms are douchebags and always have been...AND, their stores SUCK...shitty, shitty overpriced CRAP.
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this shit for brains deserves a beating, preferably with the bucket on top of his head.
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Giving back!? Thats NOT giving back, its called giving effing migraines! I used to work at the Ebar at Nordy's and they would bang those damn buckets every day on top of standard street noise and the store music they make you listen to and the crying babies and yelling adults and whirs of espresso and ringing phones! I thought my head would pop off like a Barbie doll's! My ear drums can now be content. Praise Jebus!
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If I pound on garbage with a stick can I be a musician? I enjoy street musicians as a whole but the "drummers" should be press-ganged.
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HAW HAW LOOK AT THIS GUY BANGIN ON A BUCKET HE THINKS HE'S MAKING MEWSICK

Man. A lot of you guys sound like completely insufferable douches.
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i really like hearing the music. its my favorite part of downtown. and i thought that the buckets were innovative. making magic on a shoestring budget.
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I love buskers of all kinds and think they are one of the coolest and most vibrant things about downtown Seattle. It's really sad that people are so intolerant of music. Even if it isn't your favorite style or even if the person isn't the next Jon Bonham, music is a celebration of vitality.

I can't imagine how angry and depressed someone must be to find street musicians to be "the most annoying thing about working in downtown Seattle." Very, very sad.
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#72 when you close your windows and turn on your fan and you can still hear the clatter. It's called noise pollution. As an earlier poster stated it is passive agressive. Buskers need to understand that they are not the only people around. I'm sure our "cool" buskers would not like it if the noise were Miley Cyrus invading their personal space.
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You know what's also passive aggressive? Posting about it on the Internet.

Get down there and get in a fist fight with a guy who is hitting plastic buckets with a broken hammer. That's what I'm suggesting.
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I seem to recall that Dave Grohl learned to drum on buckets.
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Posting somthing on a blog is just expressing an opinion. Unless you are posting somthing that causes another intentional harm or trouble there is nothing passive agressive about it. Don't be absurd. And I have told this guy to shut the fuck up to his face. Unfortunately hitting someone with a broken hammer is not allowed and a bit harsh.
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@73 - or you could move from downtown, with its tens of thousands of pesky people.
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@77 is right.
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Years ago when I worked downtown there was a bucket "drummer" parked outside my office building most days. I worked on the 12th floor and it drove all of us completely insane every time he started up. Eventually several of us went down to talk to him, and very politely asked if he wouldn't mind taking it elsewhere. He promptly told us to fuck off and spit and my coworker, then proceeded to bang on his buckets. We thought it was bad until the fucking bagpiper showed up. All. Fucking. Day. Long with that whining racket. Most of us had to invest in earplugs to get anything done, because the noise carried up the building and ricocheted between the towers. I really can't even explain how excruciating it was. At least we were all able to leave at the end of the day. I can't imagine living downtown and having to put up with this crap.

And to anyone who just "loves buskers" and thinks that bucket drummers make Seattle "vibrant", please post your home address in this thread and the times that you are home, so that I can sit outside your abode with my plastic buckets and drum away. I'll bring my friend who plays bagpipes to really make your home feel vibrant.
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Will:

not sure 10% of what a busker earns is worth the trouble, even if that were true?

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