Yes, urban areas with street musicians are just so awful. Let's get rid of them all. I hate New Orleans too. Actually, I'm going to just perforate my eardrums...hold on a sec. There.
@1: He's always got money, so I think you're just being snotty. Just a hunch here.
Ah, but as I'd said before... here comes the crackdown! The Council will make sure Billy is gone, the other drummers, the string instruments, the kids and their dogs, the old lady and her jesus cart, then we move on to mobile salespeople and eventually all the tourists.
Damn...he was a cool guy and he was a HELLUVA lot better to listen to than the creepy black guy screaming about Jesus and the Seattle PD and whatever else is the flavor of the moment.
I'd rather listen to a busker of any sort than that fucktard.
What he calls music is just noise pollution to a lot of us. Three cheers to Mr. Nordstrom, the City Council, and the Police Department. Get a shoe shine kit or something, my friend. Leave the public air space alone.
I kinda wish there was a place where Busking drummers, Scientologists and LaRouchites could all go together and live in some cohabitative unifying peace... say, hell.
Glad to see the SPD hard at work tackling the HUGE problem of street musicians at 5th and Pine instead of cleaning up the drug problems over at 3rd and Pine.
#6 - so true. Playing an actual drum kit decently is infinitely harder than banging on buckets in rhythm, and yet it's become a staple of "street music." Or maybe I mean "therefore", and not "and yet." Whatever.
I blame you, Bucket Boy from the early-90's Levi's commercial.
Somehow I doubt "Mr. Nordstrom" was walking around taking pictures of drummers, those guys were more likely working for their pocket change. LOUD AS HELL bucket drummers are annoying, intrusive and one out of 100 actually sounds interesting. Most are no better than monkeys beating on plastic. Screw you whiners. I see you every damn day. Read some poetry out loud and maybe I'll throw a pack of sugar in your bucket.
That drummer is the most annoying. He is awful. Some buskers just are, face it. I also hate those guys who sing "You are My Sunshine" in front of the original Starbucks in the Market. I enjoy Emory's hoola-hoop guitar thing, those young folk singer's also in front of Starbucks and even that clanky piano player. And I am not setting up for a South Park episode reference about buskers (those Peruvian guys)...
I love the drummers! The Starbucks quartet! The piano guy! The little indians with blankets and pipes! I was once brought to tears by a young man playing a broken ass pos cello on the corner of 1st and Pike. Those folks make the otherwise sketchy, grimy, loud, annoying downtown experience feel full of life and inspiration, and I am so grateful for them whenever I am downtown. I miss living in New Orleans, I miss street music, I miss people living out of doors. It's a sad, sad day when we start prosecuting people for the crime of being poor, and an even sadder one when we start prosecuting them for the crime of making music. (Regardless of your opinions of their talent or the credibility of their instruments, it is still music.)
I wish with everything that I have that we could get the SPD to turn their attentions to the never ending parade of LEAF BLOWERS that fill the city with sound pollution, and leave the goddamned bucket drummers alone.
There are traffic laws that specify how loud radios can be by how far away you can hear the music.
The same should apply here. So it can be 10 ft or 25 ft but not nothing.
I mean, there are plenty of people walking around Seattle having conversations that really annoy me. At what point are they so loud I can tell them to shut up?
Will in Seattle: if you fall under the poverty line, you qualify for medicare starting in 2014, which qualifies as "insurance". So no, he won't be getting a bill.
I watched a couple of drummers in front of Nordstrom over the course of half an hour make seven or eight drug deals. A lot of drummers just do this as a front. Drop a big bill in the hat and one of the guys hands them a baggie of meth or crack or whatever. Then some guy came by with a backpack of iPods and traded one for some drugs. Maybe this guy is legit, but most of the "drummers" in this location are not. Nonetheless, the drumming is fucking obnoxious.
Kelly O. Nice try in trying to find a martyr for The Stranger's crusade against Burgess' public safety efforts. The whole "Mr. Nordstrom" bit was a nice touch. Try again.
Erm, this guy specifically is banned from several downtown shops. Mostly for loitering and harassing employees. At least if he's drumming, he's annoying everyone?
@22- no one else does. Bucket drummers are the perfect symbol of Seattle passive-aggressiveness. NO ONE (BUT #22) wants to hea rthem, and they must know it/ Yet they keep on. Why would I give them money to do what is annoying? JFC
What BS:The drumming is not loud enough to to drown out traffic noise cops are out to hassle buskers and they look for any excuse. First they come for the drummer... http://stillahippiesnewsblog.wordpress.c…
Hey - if these drummers of shit can impose their crap noise on the rest of us then I can stand infront of them with a mega phone and yell at them to shut the fuck up, non stop, for hours everyday, and make everyone in the offices, shops and apartments all around listen to it.
O my God that's WIll! When I worked at Seattle Best on first and PIke (now Starbucks) he frequented our corner with sign that said, "Give me change or I'll kick you." A man with insight at Deja Vu saw an opportunity and gave Will a pair of slacks, a walkie talkie and a job, and for a few short weeks Will was employed handing out free passes to Deja Vu. They let him go when he was accused of selling the free passes, but for a quick glimpse it was one dude helping another dude out... which I wish to God we saw more of.
i like the drummers, and anyone doing anything to make street life a little less mundane, including the bible thumpers and the young socialists party. I can see how I might change my mind if I worked within earshot though.
Move to NYC Billy. You will make more money and it's acceptable to be a drummer here. Seattle may be a liberal city but its still houses some pretty lame people. Who doesn't want to hear awesome drumming? Seattle is filled with squares.
Good riddance. This is long overdue. These drummers act like they doing us all a favor by being constantly obnoxious.
They were also generating resentment towards street people and making it harder for talented buskers as noted by the comments above.
Too bad drummer dude isn't a Hare Krsna, cause those mother fuckers would've had a lawyer and a press conference before close of business today. And SPD and the City would be backing down immediately.
It frightens me how painfully little some Slog denizens seem to understand or respect the fundamental freedoms accorded by the Constitution.
Guys! Has anyone actually heard this guy? You can't just bang a conga drum or bucket with a stick (and no rhythm) and expect people to appreciate your contribution. Actually, you can. But Jesus Christ, I think about paying this guy NOT to. If you're gonna do a little song and dance for spare change, then do it well!
Oh, and under the dome of the Convention Center, the sounds carries very well. So yeah, knock it the fuck off.
@47: At what threshold does one qualify as a "real street musician"? What's the test?
As someone who prefers percussion over strings, there's nothing more annoying for me to hear than some acoustic guitar echoing down the subterranean corridors of my local public transit system.
I don't remember hearing this Billy dude in Seattle, but in Toronto, one guy who's been performing at Yonge and Dundas in front of the old Eaton's has done so for over 20 years, and he draws immense crowds each and every time. He's a bit of a local legend, and tourists dig him, too.
Tesla -- I'm guessing the requirements are rhythm (sounds like this guy has none, according to ear-witnesses) and some minimal level of musicianship (ditto). I agree, percussion is always exciting on the street when it's done right. When it's not, it's just hitting something with a stick.
@48 The Constitution does not provide a blank check in this regard. There have always been time, place, and method restrictions on speech. For example I can hold a rally outside of the Capital, but I can't go into the Senate Chamber and start yelling. Likewise I can communicate my displeasure with a companies labor practices on the sidewalk outside of their offices, but I can't go to the CEOs house with 200 of my friends and yell Union songs all night long.
This is especially true when the activity is commercial such as regulations on advertising cigarettes in proximity to schools.
Some level of street performance is protected, but cities can and should make laws both for safety reason and to prevent, say, some dumbass from banging loudly on buckets all day long. Its that whole balancing of rights thing we forget sometimes.
This is like Christmas for me right now. Bucket drummers are f*cking annoying for people who rent downtown and I was getting ready to move out after four years because it has gotten so bad. Looks like I will staying put! (=
Is he going to pay his fine?
Is he going to stop drumming?
Are noise tickets for noisy bars or neighbors next?
I doubt it.
What does this $23 ticket accomplish, aside from fodder for the slog? What a stupid waste of taxes paying police officers to write noise tickets to homeless people and city workers to process ticket (or non-payment of ticket) paperwork.
Billy needs to learn to play the tuba. Seattle doesn't sound the same without the late, great Tuba Man. Any time I walk past a busker, I cry out "Needs more TUBA!".
@59 I don't think you get it. It's not drumming if it's just a thumping drone and out of time. I work two blocks from his usual spot and it SUCKS. Maybe you should ask the Cheesecake Factory employees how they feel on the matter? Can I sit in traffic in a car and bleat my horn, 'cause it would about as appealing as hearing this nonstop "drumming".
I would much rather see someone busking, juggling or doing *something* instead of playing the humiliating "spare change?" pity role. And I give buskers money too. You don't like bucket drumming? Perhaps you simply walk away, or go back into The Gap or "Anthropologie" and keep shopping. Or go back to your nice, warm home and your mashed potatoes and episodes of 'Lost'.
That said, I agree most bucket drummers aren't very good, and might want to consider another, more melodic and portable instrument.
But I still think we have to keep a space for people who have nothing to climb back out. And I'd rather that space be busking than burglary and mugging.
Giving back!? Thats NOT giving back, its called giving effing migraines! I used to work at the Ebar at Nordy's and they would bang those damn buckets every day on top of standard street noise and the store music they make you listen to and the crying babies and yelling adults and whirs of espresso and ringing phones! I thought my head would pop off like a Barbie doll's! My ear drums can now be content. Praise Jebus!
i really like hearing the music. its my favorite part of downtown. and i thought that the buckets were innovative. making magic on a shoestring budget.
I love buskers of all kinds and think they are one of the coolest and most vibrant things about downtown Seattle. It's really sad that people are so intolerant of music. Even if it isn't your favorite style or even if the person isn't the next Jon Bonham, music is a celebration of vitality.
I can't imagine how angry and depressed someone must be to find street musicians to be "the most annoying thing about working in downtown Seattle." Very, very sad.
#72 when you close your windows and turn on your fan and you can still hear the clatter. It's called noise pollution. As an earlier poster stated it is passive agressive. Buskers need to understand that they are not the only people around. I'm sure our "cool" buskers would not like it if the noise were Miley Cyrus invading their personal space.
Posting somthing on a blog is just expressing an opinion. Unless you are posting somthing that causes another intentional harm or trouble there is nothing passive agressive about it. Don't be absurd. And I have told this guy to shut the fuck up to his face. Unfortunately hitting someone with a broken hammer is not allowed and a bit harsh.
Years ago when I worked downtown there was a bucket "drummer" parked outside my office building most days. I worked on the 12th floor and it drove all of us completely insane every time he started up. Eventually several of us went down to talk to him, and very politely asked if he wouldn't mind taking it elsewhere. He promptly told us to fuck off and spit and my coworker, then proceeded to bang on his buckets. We thought it was bad until the fucking bagpiper showed up. All. Fucking. Day. Long with that whining racket. Most of us had to invest in earplugs to get anything done, because the noise carried up the building and ricocheted between the towers. I really can't even explain how excruciating it was. At least we were all able to leave at the end of the day. I can't imagine living downtown and having to put up with this crap.
And to anyone who just "loves buskers" and thinks that bucket drummers make Seattle "vibrant", please post your home address in this thread and the times that you are home, so that I can sit outside your abode with my plastic buckets and drum away. I'll bring my friend who plays bagpipes to really make your home feel vibrant.
Ah, but as I'd said before... here comes the crackdown! The Council will make sure Billy is gone, the other drummers, the string instruments, the kids and their dogs, the old lady and her jesus cart, then we move on to mobile salespeople and eventually all the tourists.
Maybe, as #1 suggests, you're just kind of annoying.
I'd rather listen to a busker of any sort than that fucktard.
That's going to be FUN!
I kinda wish there was a place where Busking drummers, Scientologists and LaRouchites could all go together and live in some cohabitative unifying peace... say, hell.
I mean, since he wants to give something back.
I blame you, Bucket Boy from the early-90's Levi's commercial.
(OK, maybe it would have. But I have to have my obligatory F&N reference whenever anyone mentions Nordstrom)
I don't know from this drummer. But can they please get rid of the bagpiper by The Bon?
I wish with everything that I have that we could get the SPD to turn their attentions to the never ending parade of LEAF BLOWERS that fill the city with sound pollution, and leave the goddamned bucket drummers alone.
There are traffic laws that specify how loud radios can be by how far away you can hear the music.
The same should apply here. So it can be 10 ft or 25 ft but not nothing.
I mean, there are plenty of people walking around Seattle having conversations that really annoy me. At what point are they so loud I can tell them to shut up?
I, for one, won't miss him.
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Isn't it about time for some roving teens to beat the crap out of him?
They were also generating resentment towards street people and making it harder for talented buskers as noted by the comments above.
It frightens me how painfully little some Slog denizens seem to understand or respect the fundamental freedoms accorded by the Constitution.
Oh, and under the dome of the Convention Center, the sounds carries very well. So yeah, knock it the fuck off.
As someone who prefers percussion over strings, there's nothing more annoying for me to hear than some acoustic guitar echoing down the subterranean corridors of my local public transit system.
I don't remember hearing this Billy dude in Seattle, but in Toronto, one guy who's been performing at Yonge and Dundas in front of the old Eaton's has done so for over 20 years, and he draws immense crowds each and every time. He's a bit of a local legend, and tourists dig him, too.
This is especially true when the activity is commercial such as regulations on advertising cigarettes in proximity to schools.
Some level of street performance is protected, but cities can and should make laws both for safety reason and to prevent, say, some dumbass from banging loudly on buckets all day long. Its that whole balancing of rights thing we forget sometimes.
Is he going to stop drumming?
Are noise tickets for noisy bars or neighbors next?
I doubt it.
What does this $23 ticket accomplish, aside from fodder for the slog? What a stupid waste of taxes paying police officers to write noise tickets to homeless people and city workers to process ticket (or non-payment of ticket) paperwork.
he is a bucketer
These cops couldn't do something more productive with their time and walk over to 2nd & 3rd where cops are actually needed?
Fuck you, Mister Nordstrom, for cunting up the more pressing matters in our city. I hope your store tanks this quarter.
Or maybe there should be a law to do that, or a social service, or a vocation program run by the state.
Or, maybe you should grow a spine and just say something about it to him - to his face - rather than being a slimy internet whiner.
I tried that once with the other really loud bongo guy and it worked. He moved around the corner, sparing our apartment building.
This guy on the other hand is a dick. Him and his Hot Topic aggro buddies talk a lot of sh*t to passers-by. Why do bucket drummers hate Americans?
That said, I agree most bucket drummers aren't very good, and might want to consider another, more melodic and portable instrument.
But I still think we have to keep a space for people who have nothing to climb back out. And I'd rather that space be busking than burglary and mugging.
If you don't like street musicians, you kind of suck.
also, the Nordstroms are douchebags and always have been...AND, their stores SUCK...shitty, shitty overpriced CRAP.
Man. A lot of you guys sound like completely insufferable douches.
I can't imagine how angry and depressed someone must be to find street musicians to be "the most annoying thing about working in downtown Seattle." Very, very sad.
Get down there and get in a fist fight with a guy who is hitting plastic buckets with a broken hammer. That's what I'm suggesting.
And to anyone who just "loves buskers" and thinks that bucket drummers make Seattle "vibrant", please post your home address in this thread and the times that you are home, so that I can sit outside your abode with my plastic buckets and drum away. I'll bring my friend who plays bagpipes to really make your home feel vibrant.
not sure 10% of what a busker earns is worth the trouble, even if that were true?