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This controversy is OVER.
don't you have anything else to report on?
NEXT!
And you actually think that because he disagrees with you (and me btw) on politics that's somehow a reason against the project. I can't even express how completely idiotic this reasoning is.
Your salary is partly paid by MANY Republican owned businesses. You have no problem taking their money, but somehow you're arguing they shouldn't be allowed to make money? I swear, this argument makes me feel like I'm reading the Evergreen College newspaper.
On an unrelated note, I can think of no more clear proof of the corruption inherent in the current system of funding political campaigns than the fact that wealthy donors often give to both major candidates in an election.
OH DEAR... wait till you see who paid for the Fountain...
You know, the 80-something year-old drawbridge over the Duwamish that's used by over 20,000 cars and trucks daily? The one that's going to be STUCK IN THE OPEN POSITION FOR FIVE FUCKING YEARS come June 30th, because it's crumbling and there's no money to fix or replace it?? The one that the politicos have been wrangling over for literally decades: 'You fix it' 'No, YOU fix it, it's in your county' 'Hunh-UNH, no it isn't, not after we moved the County Line!' etc etc ETC! (That's why that bar down there was CALLED The County Line, to commemorate all the legal bullshit contortions that the politicians went through.)
How about we get some coverage of this slow-rolling trainwreck of a decision? How about a nice big investigatory piece about how liberal progressive enlightened Seattle is about to stand by and WATCH as a poorer browner neighborhood is about to chopped off at the knees for FIVE FUCKING YEARS as their one lifeline is cut right off? Is that a worthy topic for The Stranger, maybe?
/end rant
GEEZ did you see who CONTRIBUTED TO BUILD THE NEW LIBRARY!!! OMG OMG...
DID YOU see that Phil Smart supports schools and he sells cars that were once built by NAZIS!!! OMG OMG...
Dom, I love your work on local politics usually. And definitely on the initiatives in the last election. But this obsession with Seattle Center is poorly reasoned and squishy at best on the facts, if not just blatant misinfo.
Read republicans as not in touch with want Seattle wants, not as party hate. Yeah, there are a lot of yuppies in Seattle who don't want this overhiped art. But that's Seattle. Welcome to Seattle.
On another note, the bridges could use more coverage.
Also,big business has been giving cash to both parties simultaneously since the birth of the republic. You can Google it or what ever it is the hell you kids do these days.
But, yeah, the bridges are important.
I was hired to DJ at Jeff Wright's birthday party a couple of years ago. He was a friendly man with a lovely home. Not a word was uttered about the highly visible anti-Bush stickers on my record crates.
The catering was sublime. Excellent wine. Jeff Wright is not a bad dancer. And, 10% of my fee went to the Democratic Party, so I guess dude also contributes to them.
no way we're going to let him grab public land to make $$$$$$$$$$$ to give to fucking republicans.
what a douchebag, they're always against socialism except in order to line their own pocket$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hey, if their conations are free $speech, then our enabling their profit$ is u$ engaging in free $peech, it'$ like $aying $eattle $upporrt$ Republican$ to be for the chihuly mu$eum.
your "this (or that...) guy donates to Republicans and so, prima facie, is a doodoo head beyond the pale" is sooo junior high school.
please grow up.
Seattle pretends to aspire to be a Worlds Class City, or even a major American city, and yet it is a place where being a Republican is a Capital Crime?
bush league.
do yourself a huge favor.
never, never, ever again cite someone's ties to any Republican/Conservative cause as if it were a crime.
K?
go shave and comb your hair and take another picture.
grunge is so last millennium....
NEW TOPIC PLEEZ.
It's all the other factors of this that stink of shit. Short notice, carpet bagging, implications of paid-for support that you reported from that Facebook group, stacked decks, the sacrifice of public land for a project that the majority of people with no connection to the project and the Wrights are overwhelmingly against.
I don't even have a problem if something else private goes in the Fun Forest space, although it would be nice if it became permanently open. As long as it's all 100% on the up and up, and we, you know, support it, it's fine if something else private goes in.
That's why this is significant, haters. Because it's fucking typical of the moneybags set to push this kind of stupid vanity project on people and pretend it's some kind of altruistic act when in fact it's a land grab. Rest assured when the money's counted these folks will come out ahead on this deal and the public will wonder where the money went.
Bullshit. The Fun Forest is a private business. Did you check on its owners' politics?
BTW the museum will be leasing the land...it's not free so stop that bullshit too.
Hmmm.
Let's place all our outdated, last gasp, beat-the-dead-horse commercial enterprises-masquerading-as-art in the same sad strip mall. It will give the Center House something to commiserate with.
Seriously: Does anyone really think that even the tourists will be even remotely interested in this outdated kitsch? If we want to make money, why not invest in something relevant?
Unless you happen to have several million dollars to build something at the Center.
If I had $15 million to invest in the Center, I personally wouldn't spend it on a Chihuly museum. But then, I don't. The Wright's do, and they are willing to invest it into a space that is now little used, and is operating at a loss. It's a space that looks like crap, and has been privately run since 1962.
In addition to the museum, there will also be a large art garden, guaranteed to be far nicer than the treed open space the City would go into debt developing.
I'd rather see the City use the money that would come in because of this museum and pay down debt so in the future we have more money to invest in human services we desperately need. Of course, Dom, maybe you want the City to spend more money on grass for tourists, grass that I bet you'll never actually use.
Reduce the building footprint, build up 3 stories, put the gallery on the Top Floor. On the 2nd, 1st and basement floors, you name it -- shops, cafes, food court, kids video game hall, etc. There's no great loss replacing the stinking asphalt. But, the old building should go, entirely. It's too big. It creates a dead zone between it and Center House. A tall building would offer great views in all directions. Put in a Bubbleator along with regular elevators. Could there be anything stupider than 'sprawling out' instead of 'building up' in this instance? The Seattle high arts community is insane. Of course, its leaders are republican!
Seriously.
What I see the Stranger doing on this issue is no different.
Its bad when Fox does it, and its bad when my local paper does it.
I support the Chihuly exhibit proposal. I think there can be a good debate on the subject.
Going after the Wright family for their political donations serves no purpose other than to feed the pre-determined narrative. "Evil corporations stealing public land for evil purposes". Is that the best investigative reporting you can do?
By that logic, if some rich kook wanted to put up a museum displaying their late mother's housecoats - because after all, everyone knew she had the prettiest housecoats - we should do it?
This is simply a vanity project showcasing a form of art that is now most regularly seen in lobby's of office buildings that are desperately in need of renovation. The money is there, but I don't see the appeal. Who needs another EMP?
What kind of reporter testifies at the hearing he/she is supposed to be covering?
Cienna made it very clear that the Stranger was going after this project at all costs, damn the facts. The stupid crap you are trying to dig up and the spin you are putting on things proves it.
Bingo! this is why you folks will lose this battle, you are completely off the fucking rails.
Seriously, coffee shop Marxists. Simply pathetic.
I'm not against commercial development. I just wonder if anyone will want to visit this thing. If not, I want to *make sure* that the lease is written so that they pay the full rent - no corporate welfare if it turns out that no one remembers who Dale Chihuly is.
If you grow a beard to become a proper coffee shop Marxist, perhaps you should add one to the mannequin in your avatar?
Many of its newspaper boxes are on public land. Start paying rent to the City, you fucking squatters, or we'll start pissing in them
I've been crushing on a mannequin?
And if you're referring to the 5 Point as Meinert's "financial stake", I can't imagine a less likely place for Chihuly-loving tourists and yuppies to end up. This supposed financial stake is a red herring.