Blogs Apr 27, 2010 at 8:33 am

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Don't feed the Mudede troll.
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Chimpanzee that! Monkey News with Karl Pilkington - er, Charles Mudede!
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Chimpanzee that! Monkey News with Karl Pilkington - er, Charles Mudede!
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Reminds me of this hilarious Onion video.
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You're missing the other side of the coin, which is how chimpanzees deal out death. If they approve and honor tribe-sanctioned murder, then punish individually motivated murder, then one might say that humans and chimps are linked.

From what I've read, this is not how chimpanzees generally act, so you're right, Charles, that they "are not even close."
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So you're an authority because you have a biology degree or have studied extensively animal behavior and sociology? Wow, then what are you doing writing for a blog/weekly? You should be out there writing science papers!
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This topic is a whole lot more nuanced than you suggest. The idea that chimps grieve is not new - Jane Goodall recorded observations of chimpanzee grief back in the 60s and 70s.

Unless you're a person who studies animal behavior and has interacted with chimpanzees, you don't have the authority to make the assertions you do here. And even people who do are hard pressed to PROVE that chimpanzees don't experience "sadness and oceanic depths of gloom." I'm not saying that they absolutely do, just that it would be difficult to say they absolutely don't.
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If a chimpanzee wrote an opera, I'd totally go see it. I bet it would be more entertaining than yet another production of Verdi.
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@9
"Unless you're a person who studies animal behavior and has interacted with chimpanzees, you don't have the authority to make the assertions you do here."

He's a philosopher! He doesn't actually need to know anything to make declarations, because what he says has to be true. Because he's a philosopher!
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"Chimps do not deal with death like humans. Not even close. Despite being near us genetically, the grief this animal can feel is merely a puddle when compared to the human seas of sadness and oceanic depths of gloom:"

Mudede, I'm not the first to say everything you write is way too ornamented with crap and that you're opinions kind of suck but honestly what a stupid comment you wrote. You posted something legitimate about Apes then without any knowledge you just made a comparison to how humans have way more emotion. Honestly are you a scientist? Do you know what you are talking about? no so shut the fuck up.
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Fuckin' Mudede...
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The human relationship with death is extremely subjective, varying from culture to culture and individual to individual. The Hadza do not mark their graves and, according to National Geographic (December 2009) have only begun to bury the dead recently.
Our relationship to death has more to do with economic and technological development. Basically, we mourn when our dead one's are actually leaving objects behind. The individual Hadza possesses little to nothing. Therefor their is nothing to mourn, there is no debate about the worth of heirlooms and to whom they belong.

Basically, what these scientists are describing does fit into the broad spectrum of human expression over death.
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The proposition is flawed. How do we know the depth of chimps' feelings? They may lack the technology to make a display of it on Youtube but technology is not emotion.
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@6 - that was really funny. Poor bunnies at the end!! ha ha!
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ooh-oooh-oooh-aaaah-aaah-aaah!
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@1 It's hard not to feed the Mudede Troll... He's damned good at being a self-fellating jack-ass.
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Let's not forget Charles also knows what whales are thinking when they beach themselves: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/jumpe…

Also, WHAT ABOUT THE BANKS????!!!! And here I thought he was a Marxist.

Please wait...

and remember to be decent to everyone
all of the time.

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