She's on probation for drinky-driving arrests and other shenanigans. When you're on probation, you don't get to do what you want. That's the deal you make for not being in jail.
In WA courts hearing DUI matters, judges often assign x amount of AA classes per week, where x is very closely related to the BAC of the defendant. If you blew twice the legal limit, you are hitting AA meetings at least 5 days a week.
And usually, the judge orders you not to drink while on probation, and yes, this is something you theoretically agree to, in lieu of going to jail.
The problem is apparently she can't be trusted to drink and not drive which is why she was in front of a judge in the first place.
I bet the alarm on that thing goes off at least once and she claims either that she accidentally picked up the wrong drink or someone spilled alcohol on her or some other completely unbelievable lame excuse, she'll get thrown in jail which she will say is unjust persecution because she honestly didn't drink anything and the bracelet is defective.
She'll do all of a week in jail (but will act like she's Nelson Mandella), will get out and have to wear the thing again for however long her probation is. On the day she gets it taken on she'll get ripped out of her head to celebrate it coming off and will die in a fiery car accident, or maybe an overdose/alcohol poisoning.
What Dan is missing is that LL did actual crimes that are actually against the law and that actually harmed or placed great risk upon others. Apparently, LL's camp would prefer to do that instead of going to actual jail with actual bars & actual criminals.
So if you take all THOSE things away, then yeah, it's really stupid.
Most who get popped once for dui will do it repeatedly. Treatment is to avoid dealing with someone who will be too stupid to not drink and drive in the future. It's just disguised as punishment.
The problem is that she's a resident of the United States of Puritanica. I don't give a fuck what she poisons herself with as long as she's not operating heavy machinery.
@12: And what do you do when somebody who took a judgment-impairing substance decides that they feel like going out for a spin? Two DUI's are not the mark of a responsible drinker.
She already did get behind the wheel of a car, on more than one occasion, causing damage and harm to others and their property and has not yet been punished for it.
I'm sure everyone else that goes through the court systems in Los Angeles gets the same treatment.
@12: This isn't puritanicalism, it's asking for some concrete assurances that the person avoid the decisions that led to the crime, in exchange for a degree of freedom that is considerably greater than being in prison.
Probation is a punishment handed down for a violation of the law. It's not as severe as a prison sentence, but you lose some of your rights and privileges in exactly the way you would if you went to prison. And I'm pretty sure there are no bars LA County lockup.
technically speaking, alcohol is not legal. it is decriminalized. there's a difference. it's kinda like cannabis. most of the discussion surrounding it focuses on decriminalizing it, not legalizing it. even the netherlands hasn't legalized it, however it is decriminalized.
@ 22 - Maybe without the drugs/alcohol, we might once again end up with a reasonable approximation of Mean-Girls-era Lindsay. I mean...goddamn. But I have a weakness for redheads.
As a general note--guys, chill. Dan asked if he was missing something; turned out he was. I think it's safe to assume he's never been pulled over for drunk driving.
@ 21 - No, dude, alcohol's legal (if you're over 21). There are restrictions on its use, but it's legal. If a cop sees a 25-year-old in possession of a bottle of wine, they're not going to get fined.
Possession of up to 1 ounce of pot is decriminalized (not legalized) in Massachusetts. It's still in violation of the law, and you can face a civil fine of up to $100, but it's not a crime. It's rather like getting a parking ticket; if you park illegally, you are in violation of the law, but you will not face criminal sanctions. The proposition that we're seeing in in California, by contrast, is one to legalize, rather than merely decriminalize.
@27- California's not really legalizing. You'd be able to grow a certain amount inside your home, but over that amount and it's against the law. Also, it wouldn't be legal to wander down the street smoking a joint. I don't even know why I'm posting this, we're talking a very fine line between legalizing and decriminalizing.
Look, bottom line is: anyone with as much money as her (yeah, yeah, she's nowhere near MSOFT rich, but still, she ain't hurtin' cash-wise), who can afford to jet off to pretty much anywhere on the planet and get wasted off her ass, should at least be smart enough to HIRE A FUCKIN' DD!
Otherwise, she's just a stupid feckin' twat who deserves what she gets...
@ 28 - You know...I'm actually not sure. I don't smoke myself, maybe my best bet is to ask a friend that does.
@ 29 - The regulations are dicey, but what California is looking at is a legalization measure, not a decriminalization measure. Sure, that legalization is limited in scope, but it's inaccurate to characterize it as decriminalization. I'm just saying that simple possession of a certain amount (within some pretty strict guidelines) will no longer be in violation of the law when it comes to pot. And I was responding to derbenistambesten's confused use of "decriminalization" as regards alcohol. Pot was just an example that came to mind. Besides, you're not allowed to walk down the street with an open container of alcohol--that doesn't mean that alcohol isn't legal.
You're right though--the whole point of this post is parsing out language. But like 90% of my job is being nitpicky about language choices.
@19: What, when he got smashed and broke into some building armed with a handgun, and having no idea what was going on? Must have been reliving a MIB adventure.
Can we please stop giving this girl any more press time!! Has she donated any time or money to a cause? Has she done more than suggest she was making a movie? Has she done anything of relevance? I am so tired of seeing articles about people who are famous for being famous. Don't feed the trolls, and maybe they will go away.
Can't hear you - my "care" volume way turned down. Truly I want to care about Lindsay & her ilk, but until she achieves becoming a 'pink' question in Trivial Pursuit, there's no chance.
Like all of the girls who've been poked by Tiger's wood, Andy Warhol did not intend to confer 15 minutes of fame on people merely for being sluts, gold-diggers and home-wreckers.
@13- And, if and when she gets intoxicated, and THEN decides to drive a car/vespa/bicycle, I'll be the first to say she belongs in jail. Until then, who gives a fuck how drunk she gets?
All I'm saying is, when one is NOT operating a motor vehicle or other dangerous devices, one should have the freedom to partake of any intoxicants/poisons one chooses.
What you don't seem to realize is that this is in lieu of jail time. how much boozing it up do you suppose she'd be able to do in jail? Which of those two sentences would you choose?
#2.
That should be the opening of your novel...
I'm showing her how to use a cell phone while driving in WA state as we speak.
OUT OF THE WAY!
In WA courts hearing DUI matters, judges often assign x amount of AA classes per week, where x is very closely related to the BAC of the defendant. If you blew twice the legal limit, you are hitting AA meetings at least 5 days a week.
And usually, the judge orders you not to drink while on probation, and yes, this is something you theoretically agree to, in lieu of going to jail.
I bet the alarm on that thing goes off at least once and she claims either that she accidentally picked up the wrong drink or someone spilled alcohol on her or some other completely unbelievable lame excuse, she'll get thrown in jail which she will say is unjust persecution because she honestly didn't drink anything and the bracelet is defective.
She'll do all of a week in jail (but will act like she's Nelson Mandella), will get out and have to wear the thing again for however long her probation is. On the day she gets it taken on she'll get ripped out of her head to celebrate it coming off and will die in a fiery car accident, or maybe an overdose/alcohol poisoning.
I'm guessing.
So if you take all THOSE things away, then yeah, it's really stupid.
I'm sure everyone else that goes through the court systems in Los Angeles gets the same treatment.
Probation is a punishment handed down for a violation of the law. It's not as severe as a prison sentence, but you lose some of your rights and privileges in exactly the way you would if you went to prison. And I'm pretty sure there are no bars LA County lockup.
But now I see how silly that sounds. There are bars, just not the kind that serve drinks. D'oh.
Seriously, who cares?
That is some serious old-man rock & roll.
As a general note--guys, chill. Dan asked if he was missing something; turned out he was. I think it's safe to assume he's never been pulled over for drunk driving.
Possession of up to 1 ounce of pot is decriminalized (not legalized) in Massachusetts. It's still in violation of the law, and you can face a civil fine of up to $100, but it's not a crime. It's rather like getting a parking ticket; if you park illegally, you are in violation of the law, but you will not face criminal sanctions. The proposition that we're seeing in in California, by contrast, is one to legalize, rather than merely decriminalize.
Otherwise, she's just a stupid feckin' twat who deserves what she gets...
@ 29 - The regulations are dicey, but what California is looking at is a legalization measure, not a decriminalization measure. Sure, that legalization is limited in scope, but it's inaccurate to characterize it as decriminalization. I'm just saying that simple possession of a certain amount (within some pretty strict guidelines) will no longer be in violation of the law when it comes to pot. And I was responding to derbenistambesten's confused use of "decriminalization" as regards alcohol. Pot was just an example that came to mind. Besides, you're not allowed to walk down the street with an open container of alcohol--that doesn't mean that alcohol isn't legal.
You're right though--the whole point of this post is parsing out language. But like 90% of my job is being nitpicky about language choices.
Like all of the girls who've been poked by Tiger's wood, Andy Warhol did not intend to confer 15 minutes of fame on people merely for being sluts, gold-diggers and home-wreckers.
All I'm saying is, when one is NOT operating a motor vehicle or other dangerous devices, one should have the freedom to partake of any intoxicants/poisons one chooses.