@4: this doesn't seem all that anti-competitive to me. booksellers are reaching a broader audience thanks to amazon, and amazon doesn't want them to get free advertising and then say "oh hey we have the book for cheaper over here!" amazon isn't forcing the booksellers to lower their prices further than on their websites, just to match it.
The EU will be quite happy to enforce a multi-BILLION EU fine on Amazon if need be.
Unlike the US where stuff like this is decided politically, there it's about market dominance by oligopolies and monopolies - and they are quite willing to take action where we find excuses to pretend nothing's wrong.
@4--that does not make sense in this case.
these book seller are choosing to sell on amazon. they want amazon's traffic and audience. but then they want to tell those customers not to buy it there, but to visit their store.
i think it's reasonable to ask some to not do that in your store.
They don't want people using Amazon to search for books, and then buying from the same people, only using their website to buy it for less. Kind of like I do for airfare and hotels.
If a supplier, say a bike manufacturer, did that to its local bike shops, selling online for cheaper than the stores they distribute to, most stores would quit selling their stock. So they don't. Neither should people selling through Amazon.
I am very much against monopolies and large corporations, but this seems legit.I have been buying used books through Biblio. and they probably have similar rules.
@13. Biblio doesn't have any such rule. I list there, also Alibris, and once a long time ago ABEbooks. None of the other used book site do. This is an Amazon thing.
And you should continue to support biblio. It was started by a collective of angry used booksellers over some of the shady stuff ABE pulled on its clients. It's filled with genuine used booksellers, not bots or re-listing companies like at ABE.
Biblio is fair to its clients, demands accurate descriptions for the customers, and takes a modest cut only if a book sells; there's no monthly fee like at other sites.
They are a Craigs List type event away from losing that market.
It isn't the single web storefront they should worry about.
And, unlike the US, some government there may step in an play web host. That is sort of the downside of getting a group together in order to squeeze them, they are all together. Individually they are powerless, as a group they could leave together.
Way to be completely incoherent. A craigs list type event? Like, say, Craigslist? Or ebay?
And then you go into some sort of advocacy for nationalized web commerce or something and between that and Will's post, it really looks like there are some great drugs available today.
Please wait...
and remember to be decent to everyone all of the time.
If they don't like it they don't have to sell through Amazon.
Unlike the US where stuff like this is decided politically, there it's about market dominance by oligopolies and monopolies - and they are quite willing to take action where we find excuses to pretend nothing's wrong.
these book seller are choosing to sell on amazon. they want amazon's traffic and audience. but then they want to tell those customers not to buy it there, but to visit their store.
i think it's reasonable to ask some to not do that in your store.
If a supplier, say a bike manufacturer, did that to its local bike shops, selling online for cheaper than the stores they distribute to, most stores would quit selling their stock. So they don't. Neither should people selling through Amazon.
I am very much against monopolies and large corporations, but this seems legit.I have been buying used books through Biblio. and they probably have similar rules.
And you should continue to support biblio. It was started by a collective of angry used booksellers over some of the shady stuff ABE pulled on its clients. It's filled with genuine used booksellers, not bots or re-listing companies like at ABE.
Biblio is fair to its clients, demands accurate descriptions for the customers, and takes a modest cut only if a book sells; there's no monthly fee like at other sites.
It isn't the single web storefront they should worry about.
And, unlike the US, some government there may step in an play web host. That is sort of the downside of getting a group together in order to squeeze them, they are all together. Individually they are powerless, as a group they could leave together.
AOL-ian moves provide their own solutions.
Way to be completely incoherent. A craigs list type event? Like, say, Craigslist? Or ebay?
And then you go into some sort of advocacy for nationalized web commerce or something and between that and Will's post, it really looks like there are some great drugs available today.