The kid deserves the full weight of the law to fall on him.
But from what I understand, he has had NO formal flight training. Microsoft Flight Simulator doesn't count. And he flew over a thousand miles cross country then across the ocean (not very far, but still).
Flying is unforgiving to the unprepared or those with bad judgment. The weather will kill you if it can, and it's constantly trying. Not to mention all the controlled and restricted airspaces he had to avoid. That flight was a pretty awesome achievement.
@6, ha ha ha, like in Batman Begins -- Bruce Wayne got himself imprisoned in a scary Chinese gulag just so he could practice on the other inmates and guards...
The New York Times evidently thinks it's of no importance. It's nowhere to be found on the Times site nor is even using their search any hits on Colton Harris-Moore. Heck the New York Post has it written up!
From CNN: "Harris Moore's mother, Pamela Kohler, has told CNN affiliate KIRO that she wanted her son to turn himself in, but said she was "proud" her son had actually taught himself to fly."
The same CNN story said 20th Century Fox is looking into doing a movie based on this dude's story
This does crack me up, that this young whippersnapper managed to fly a 2009 Cessna that far away, even if he did crash land it. Nothing else though.
We all agree (I think?) what he did was wrong. but let's face it, unfortunately our culture LOVES shit like this and this guy now has a ton of respect. There must be tens of thousands of girls out there who would fuck him in an instant
but a crushing punitive fine will force him to market his story to pay back the 2nd home, boat and plane owners. that money will trickle down to contractors and manufacturers to replace the destroyed property, who will hire more workers to meet the demand he created.
@18, the story is a Seattle thing, not the name. Sheesh.
@19: Yeah, right. Grand theft airplane is trivial? There's going to be a whole laundry list of other charges, too. And his juvenile record can be considered in sentencing. No, he'll be going away for a while.
My feeling is that if your $620,000 Cessna 400 can be stolen by a kid who knows how to pick a lock, you probably weren't that serious about keeping your plane safe in the first place. Owners of $8,000 used Honda Civics at least make a halfassed effort to keep it from getting stolen.
My feeling is that if the vagina of a well-dressed beautiful woman can be raped by a kid with a knife, she probably wasn't that serious about not being raped. Ugly owners of a vagina at least make a half-assed effort to keep from being raped by learning self-defense.
Mm. I never gave much thought to the idea that taking away a rich person's toy is the same as rape. Interesting thought. Let me consider it...
...OK. Done.
Upon giving deep thought to the idea that there is some comparison between forcible rape and stealing $620,000 airplanes from people who haven't even heard of The Club, I have concluded that they are not the same. Nor are they similar. They, are, how shall I put it? Apples and oranges.
So sorry you disagree with my analogy. I still wonder why you think it's OK to steal from a rich person. Did I steal your thunder? So sorry, but you weren't guarding it all that well.
Why do people keep dismissing him as "spoiled"? I can't imagine a spoiled kid able to survive a week in the woods alone. He spent half his teenage years in institutions, which also seems to make him an unlikely frat-boy.
There is also no evidence to label him a "sociopath". A true sociopath would see no difference between killing somebody to take their possessions, verses sneaking around to take their possessions. Is there a record of this guy every injuring anybody?
I for one am sorry he got caught. I've had a wonderful time following the cat and mouse escapades of several big city police departments, and the FBI versus a lone teenage boy who has outsmarted them for over 2 years.
Way to go, kid!
I didn't say it was okay to steal the plan, oh ye of the poor reading comprehension who probably smoked a bowl for breakfast. I said the owner wasn't all that serious about keeping their plane safe. So if they couldn't be bothered to lock up their plane why should I or anyone else be bothered to make a Federal case out of it?
If anything, somebody should be prosecuted under the Patriot Act for failing to secure their aircraft. Imagine if a terrorist had taken the plane and flown it into a building! Colton Harris-Moore deserves the thanks of a grateful nation for alerting us to this security thereat. He's a hero like Mathias Rust.
I suppose you think Mathias Rust is a rapist too? People like you are the whole reason pot is illegal.
Well, thanks for not making a personal attack on me and all. Keeps it right cordial, it does.
If you want to attack my statements, feel free. I don't mind a debate. If you want to attack me, then you've already lost the debate.
Under the Patriot Act, what he did is indeed a Federal case, as you perhaps accidentally pointed out. He is a common criminal who got away with stealing a plane and flying it out of our airspace. Any comparison, to a man who legally acquired a plane and naively (and yes, illegally) aimed it at Red Square, seems silly to me--perhaps as silly as you found my analogy.
As for my pot smoking, your honor, I never had contact with that blunt. If you dare, read my comments on commercial hemp. While I do feel it should be legalized, I really prefer that people not smoke anything around me, as I find it somewhat offensive. Fortunately, if it really bugs me, I can walk away.
And of course it's OK to steal the plans. It's the only way the Rebels can stop the Imperial Army's Death Star.
@30 and 31: I think you should check your dictionaries for the definition of sociopath (or, to be technically and politically correct, one who suffers from "antisocial personality disorder").
From Merriam-Webster: "Main Entry: antisocial personality disorder
Function: noun
Date: 1979
: a personality disorder that is characterized by antisocial behavior exhibiting pervasive disregard for and violation of the rights, feelings, and safety of others starting in childhood or the early teenage years and continuing into adulthood"
It rarely involves brandishing a knife behind a bathroom mirror in drag a la Michael Caine in "Dressed to Kill".
He's going to be tried in the Bahamas first. They will jail him. There he will discover the joys of a teenager in jail. Then he will be sent to the US... and probably discover the perils of being an adult in jail.
By the time he's out, he'll have a good life paid for by the residuals.
"I still wonder why you think it's OK to steal from a rich person."
I think it's okay because I grew reading about Robin Hood. And his oh-so-Mary men. -He- -gave it- to the rich, and then he gave to the poor. Gotta admire that spunk. And then there's all those dashing highwaymen in the Grimm tales. Yes, you rich people really ought to censor that socialist prol folklit.
No offense man. I guess, I like the kid, because he beat the system ... at least for a little while. I mean, how many of you just wanted to say fuck this shit, this rat race, our abuse and lack of humanity, and just take off. Yet none of us would have the stones to do it. Like we all "believe" that this will mean something.
IMO once he left the area he was bound to get caught eventually.
But from what I understand, he has had NO formal flight training. Microsoft Flight Simulator doesn't count. And he flew over a thousand miles cross country then across the ocean (not very far, but still).
Flying is unforgiving to the unprepared or those with bad judgment. The weather will kill you if it can, and it's constantly trying. Not to mention all the controlled and restricted airspaces he had to avoid. That flight was a pretty awesome achievement.
Thought about invoking Godwin's Law, but decided against.
The same CNN story said 20th Century Fox is looking into doing a movie based on this dude's story
This does crack me up, that this young whippersnapper managed to fly a 2009 Cessna that far away, even if he did crash land it. Nothing else though.
We all agree (I think?) what he did was wrong. but let's face it, unfortunately our culture LOVES shit like this and this guy now has a ton of respect. There must be tens of thousands of girls out there who would fuck him in an instant
Title of movie: "I Burglarized and Stole a Plane. Please Fuck Me."
but a crushing punitive fine will force him to market his story to pay back the 2nd home, boat and plane owners. that money will trickle down to contractors and manufacturers to replace the destroyed property, who will hire more workers to meet the demand he created.
disaster capitalism. he's just like george bush!
Who names their child "Colton"?
Nor should anyone else...
@19: Yeah, right. Grand theft airplane is trivial? There's going to be a whole laundry list of other charges, too. And his juvenile record can be considered in sentencing. No, he'll be going away for a while.
He'll probably be forgotten in 5 years though, just like every cult gimmick.
Blame the victim much?
...OK. Done.
Upon giving deep thought to the idea that there is some comparison between forcible rape and stealing $620,000 airplanes from people who haven't even heard of The Club, I have concluded that they are not the same. Nor are they similar. They, are, how shall I put it? Apples and oranges.
Have a nice day.
There is also no evidence to label him a "sociopath". A true sociopath would see no difference between killing somebody to take their possessions, verses sneaking around to take their possessions. Is there a record of this guy every injuring anybody?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U_rWWsmc…
Way to go, kid!
If anything, somebody should be prosecuted under the Patriot Act for failing to secure their aircraft. Imagine if a terrorist had taken the plane and flown it into a building! Colton Harris-Moore deserves the thanks of a grateful nation for alerting us to this security thereat. He's a hero like Mathias Rust.
I suppose you think Mathias Rust is a rapist too? People like you are the whole reason pot is illegal.
If you want to attack my statements, feel free. I don't mind a debate. If you want to attack me, then you've already lost the debate.
Under the Patriot Act, what he did is indeed a Federal case, as you perhaps accidentally pointed out. He is a common criminal who got away with stealing a plane and flying it out of our airspace. Any comparison, to a man who legally acquired a plane and naively (and yes, illegally) aimed it at Red Square, seems silly to me--perhaps as silly as you found my analogy.
As for my pot smoking, your honor, I never had contact with that blunt. If you dare, read my comments on commercial hemp. While I do feel it should be legalized, I really prefer that people not smoke anything around me, as I find it somewhat offensive. Fortunately, if it really bugs me, I can walk away.
And of course it's OK to steal the plans. It's the only way the Rebels can stop the Imperial Army's Death Star.
People like you deserve nothing less than to have a teenager enter your house and watch TV and leave. The way the common criminals do all the time.
irule!
From Merriam-Webster: "Main Entry: antisocial personality disorder
Function: noun
Date: 1979
: a personality disorder that is characterized by antisocial behavior exhibiting pervasive disregard for and violation of the rights, feelings, and safety of others starting in childhood or the early teenage years and continuing into adulthood"
It rarely involves brandishing a knife behind a bathroom mirror in drag a la Michael Caine in "Dressed to Kill".
By the time he's out, he'll have a good life paid for by the residuals.
I think it's okay because I grew reading about Robin Hood. And his oh-so-Mary men. -He- -gave it- to the rich, and then he gave to the poor. Gotta admire that spunk. And then there's all those dashing highwaymen in the Grimm tales. Yes, you rich people really ought to censor that socialist prol folklit.
Yes, his mother's just saving it all up for him, right.
Nope, he's a pretty damn rare criminal.