Lets talk about population density
Lets talk about public transit
Lets talk about museums
Lets talk about culture
Lets talk about diversity
Lets talk about pedestrian presence
Lets talk about night life
Pick on someone your own size -- think Denver or Milwaukee.
Man, what New Yorker pissed in the Stranger's Wheaties this morning?
Yes, summer in Seattle is unquestionably one of the best climates on earth. Unfortunately, it doesn't last nearly long enough, and we had to wait through 9 months of suicide-inducing grey weather for it.
As much as I think this "so nyaah to NYC!" theme is below most adults (SLOG commenters no doubt remember the source of "Seattle is Dubuque, Iowa, putting on airs", I will contribute that because of our hills, Seattle is better able to cope with floods caused by climate change influenc… than flat Manhattan.
I totally get that the weather may be more tolerable in Seattle in july... but i think the thing to remember is that NYC doesn't have to spend an entire day assembling cherry picked facts to make a case for being a better city than somewhere else... this is called confidence and is something that happens when people feel secure in themselves. think of those guys with loud motor cycles that we all assume have teeny penises and old fat men with flashy cars pretending that you wont notice the toupee because "look, my car is better than yours!" thats who i compare you to after reading a full day of my FAVORITE BLOG ON THE WEB crapping on my city...
so yeah
keep bitchin about what a LAME city NYC is...
cause yeah... perhaps one day everyone in the world will know a song by heart that has SEATTLE in the title... or dream of making it in the seattle art/theater/business scene... maybe someday people living in huts in deserts will dream of living in seattle... maybe someday you will need 3 airports in your area to welcome the international visitors... perhaps one day france will gift you a huge beautiful statue for you wonderful harbor that will be a major symbol of American Pride... maybe someday you will have europeans give you a pass when you say, "oh, im not an american, im a seattleite." the way they do when you say you are from NYC... i could go on, but this queen tries not to protest too much...
and
i am not knocking seattle
i read slog daily because i think seattle is great
and slog is great
but you do yourself a disservice when you start sounding like a jealous ex boyfriend who talks about his ex getting fat after they broke up...
sorry we make you feel inferior enough to spend the day crapping on us... but we get it... it's ok... it's actually pretty common...
so yeah... how bout you go to the site of the future chilully museum, whip out a fancy Microsoft PDA and look up the metropolitan museum of art, or the guggenheim, or the MOMA, or the Whitney, or the Museum of Natural History, and then think about what a LAME city we are...
i can only imagine the vitriol i am about to be handed... but yeah... keep comparing yourself to us... it doesn't diminish you in the slightest...
i gotta run cause i am late to grab lunch... i spose i will run out the door of my office and go to one of the hundreds of amazing eateries in soho... while i walk by a ton of amazing art galleries and try to avoid all the international tourists who have flocked to our city on their summer vacations...
summertime in Seattle is superior to anytime anywhere else
Except for Vancouver. Which not only has a hockey team, but also hosted an Olympics and has a much more robust film industry (that is, for those who care about that kind of thing. Oh yeah, and Vancouver has Timmies, Stanley Park, and English Bay. Seattle does not.
It's cute and all to joke about trashing on NYC, but please don't let this snowball into the idiocy that is the Los Angeles mindset. LA people are actually serious when they pick up 'rivalries' with NYC or SF.
Please please please don't make us look that stupid.
This is the best part about winding up New Yorkers: you can do it with even the lamest attacks. They get so sensitive so fast that they're totally incapable of seeing that you're fucking with them.
@20
Thanks... i thought that was a nice one...
OH...
and my statement above is my official request to become the NYC contributor to SLOG... cause part of why i have always loved seattle is that I have always thought it to be the official sister city of brooklyn... cause i have SOOO many friends that moved to brooklyn when they got bored with seattle after a few years...
uh oh... i think that last comment may negate my request for blogging rights...
but really
don't you guys need someone here to at least guest blog from the other coast? its always such a let down waiting for you guys to post in the AM with the time change...
Also #23 accidentally lets it slip another nasty fact about NYC: they have no legitimate alternative news source. The Voice has been a joke for years, and Gawker is really just a news aggregator. They do no reporting of their own. Why else would someone from the far "superior" city be reading a weekly rag from the other side of the country, with a three-hour delay no less?
@27 - actually, i read the slog daily because my best friend, who had moved to NYC from Seattle years ago died suddenly on February 13th 2008 at the too young age of 34 and the SLOG has always reminded me of him. I feel closer to him when i read about small town politics and read the excellent reporting of the SLOG writers. the writing always makes me think of what he would say about various seattle goings on. but like i said. SLOG is my favorite blog on the interwebs. FAR superior to GAWKER in EVERY WAY! i made no claim otherwise. and yeah... i havent read the voice since i was looking fro an apartment in college... back in the mid late 90's when they still charged for their paper... but we do have the NYT here... which kinda makes up for it... and yeah... i can carp and bitch about NYC with anyone... you think the summers are miserable here? imagine what its like when its -10 degrees with the wind chill and you are walkin a 1/4 mile to work from the subway... but the pathos of daily life tends to bind nyers together... i am sur ethat you would agree that the SLOG writers dont want to move from seattle just because they are complaining about one thing or another here every day... and yeah... we CAN take a joke... have you seen times square?
Oh, by the way -- it's a fuck-wad colder in NYC during the winter than in Seattle, too. But you know what we do? Go to one of our regional arenas (yes, one is in our suburb of NJ - that's like Bellevue, but a whole STATE) and watch National Basket Ball Association teams play basket ball.
In my opinion, the west coast in general is better than the east coast. But then, I grew up here wedged in between the mountains and the sea and it's like my cradle.
@32 Wayyyyy better. Last time I was in NYC a friend of a friend invited to his apartment to smoke the "20 dollar a gram shit". I started laughing as he was cleaning seeds out of the little box.
Did you know that the only forests in the country are in upstate NY? And that the Hamptons have some beach houses and a beach? Nowhere else wil you find these things.
@44: Sort of like the people who declare Seattle "the most beautiful city on earth," as if plunking the worlds ugliest architecture haphazardly on hills with some diverting water views makes you special.
@15 Seattle has a music scene, great opera, well respected ballet, theatre, cooler neighborhoods and actually creates things like planes, computers and an economy not based on tourism. Therefore Seattle is superior:)
I long for the few hot dry days around here, when I can actually perspire because it gets rid of all the salts and gunk in my system.
Not to mention the complete lack of sunshine causing diabetes.
Lets talk about public transit
Lets talk about museums
Lets talk about culture
Lets talk about diversity
Lets talk about pedestrian presence
Lets talk about night life
Pick on someone your own size -- think Denver or Milwaukee.
Yes, summer in Seattle is unquestionably one of the best climates on earth. Unfortunately, it doesn't last nearly long enough, and we had to wait through 9 months of suicide-inducing grey weather for it.
so yeah
keep bitchin about what a LAME city NYC is...
cause yeah... perhaps one day everyone in the world will know a song by heart that has SEATTLE in the title... or dream of making it in the seattle art/theater/business scene... maybe someday people living in huts in deserts will dream of living in seattle... maybe someday you will need 3 airports in your area to welcome the international visitors... perhaps one day france will gift you a huge beautiful statue for you wonderful harbor that will be a major symbol of American Pride... maybe someday you will have europeans give you a pass when you say, "oh, im not an american, im a seattleite." the way they do when you say you are from NYC... i could go on, but this queen tries not to protest too much...
and
i am not knocking seattle
i read slog daily because i think seattle is great
and slog is great
but you do yourself a disservice when you start sounding like a jealous ex boyfriend who talks about his ex getting fat after they broke up...
sorry we make you feel inferior enough to spend the day crapping on us... but we get it... it's ok... it's actually pretty common...
so yeah... how bout you go to the site of the future chilully museum, whip out a fancy Microsoft PDA and look up the metropolitan museum of art, or the guggenheim, or the MOMA, or the Whitney, or the Museum of Natural History, and then think about what a LAME city we are...
i can only imagine the vitriol i am about to be handed... but yeah... keep comparing yourself to us... it doesn't diminish you in the slightest...
i gotta run cause i am late to grab lunch... i spose i will run out the door of my office and go to one of the hundreds of amazing eateries in soho... while i walk by a ton of amazing art galleries and try to avoid all the international tourists who have flocked to our city on their summer vacations...
Cheers!
Except for Vancouver. Which not only has a hockey team, but also hosted an Olympics and has a much more robust film industry (that is, for those who care about that kind of thing. Oh yeah, and Vancouver has Timmies, Stanley Park, and English Bay. Seattle does not.
Ergo, Vancouver is superior. :)
Please please please don't make us look that stupid.
Love hiking and boating in Seattle and environs, but please, don't throw down with NYC, it's only going to embarrass you.
More, more please!
Thanks... i thought that was a nice one...
OH...
and my statement above is my official request to become the NYC contributor to SLOG... cause part of why i have always loved seattle is that I have always thought it to be the official sister city of brooklyn... cause i have SOOO many friends that moved to brooklyn when they got bored with seattle after a few years...
uh oh... i think that last comment may negate my request for blogging rights...
but really
don't you guys need someone here to at least guest blog from the other coast? its always such a let down waiting for you guys to post in the AM with the time change...
Summer sucks in both Seattle and NYC.
@2: Unfortunately, I think my city has Seattle beat on that one.
Wow. Are you posting that in all the threads? That's some superfine confidence right there.
It's definitely not more humidy there by any objective measure.
I don't even LIKE basket ball -- but SUCK IT!
Who will lose?
Austin.
I love the weather here - no matter the time of year.
Not more humid in NY? OMG you're ignorant.
I lived on the East Coast (Boston) for 34 years, and Seattle for 5. I can tell you without question that it is drier than a bone here.
And Glorious Atlantic Farm-Raised Salmon? Whoa.
Fucking cliffs. As in, 10-story sheer cliffs, the kind that Seattle historically razed or worked around.
Hills abound: Brooklyn Heights, Murray Hill, Park Slope up from Gowanus, etc., etc., etc.
Bethany simply hasn't a clue what she's talking about.
@ 32 - Yes! This is unequivocally true. Game Over!
:-p
"I said GOOD DAY TO YOU, sir!"
Your magnanimity is refreshing and appreciated!
Sorry for calling your argument asinine (though I'm glad it tickled your vocabulary).