Wow, just wow. Charles trolls the internet, Gawker bites. Gawker trolls Slog, Slog bites and posts like someone whacked their beehive with a stick.

FINALLY someone mentions the disgusting pre-civilization slop in the street smell of New York in the summer. FINALLY.

More war please.

This is a pissing contest neither Seattle nor the Stranger can win.

Troll fail.

@3, speaking of pissing contests, public urination in New York is one of the essential urban experiences. I've pissed while talking on a pay phone at 3 AM there. So liberating. Just, for the love of God, don't piss in the subway grates; there's people down there.

Best day on Slog evur.

ah yes, fnarf. Their pay phone kiosks were made for bladder relief.

this. native seattleite, spent two years in new york, and am kissing the northwestern ground every morning now that i'm home.

they leave their garbage on the sidewalk there. like, when you go to take your garbage out . . . you take it out to the sidewalk. and leave it there. in the public subtropical humidity. i could not even fucking believe that shit.

new york is a scam and a lie. the only people who love living there are from pissant, indiana, and can't believe they live in a town with more than one movie theater. your bar has to be very, very low to be willing to withstand the manifold strains of misery and suffering that comprise new york city.

didn't you guys just post yesterday about how seattle may start picking up your trash every OTHER week?
i cant imagine the stench that will grow in your city if you ever get over 80 degrees i the summer...
trash gets picked up in nyc 3 times a week
and yeah
sometimes the trash on the street smells... but we only have that much trash because so many fucking people from all over the world CLAMOR to get within our city limits to hang out vacation and party

@7 if you coulda made it here... you coulda made it anywhere...

New yorkers are also the only people who refer to standing in line as "standing on line" for some ridiculous reason.

That always bothered me.

@5: Especially so in that Dan is not saying a word about any of this.

@3: I thought it was also Capitol Hill's and Belltown's essential urban experiences, too?

hey, new york is great for partying. and then leaving, once you're done partying, with all of your stinking refuse sitting on the sidewalks for the locals to enjoy.

in fact, living in new york and partying are almost mutually exclusive, because if you live in new york and aren't a hipster heiress, you probably can't afford to party. or eat. also, your four roommates have to work in the morning and you don't want to wake them up, since you're all sharing a 400-square-foot 1-bedroom apartment. and the hour-long train ride from washington heights is a bitch. you all need your rest, so you can wake up and be unhappy.

@12 - sorry you weren't successful enough in nyc to enjoy the city while living large... or crafty enough to enjoy it on the cheap...
god
i am such a merciless bitch...

@13,

More like a whiny one.

@14
Really? i can see you not liking me for pointing out some obvious facts... call me a bitch, rude, mean, biased... but where was i whining in that comment? it seems more like Mr. Didnt like living in NYC cause the life isn't EASY here was whining... I've got nothing to whine about... im a new yorker... ;-)

13: hey, i had a full-time job at billboard and my own apartment in astoria, at age 27. i was doing just fine money-wise when i lived there--i was just blowing it all on trying to maintain my seattle-era standard of living, since everything in new york is marked up 400 percent. and is filthy and half the quality.

the final straw was when my cat died from eating rat poison that my super had put in my kitchen, unbeknownst to me. never occurred to me that there might be SECRET POISON in my APARTMENT. because i'd never lived in a building that had rats. or known anyone who did. or seen a rat that wasn't someone's pet before i moved to new york.

fuck that place. seriously. what a shithole.

DON'T FORGET THE URINE SMELL!

Nothing says "summer in New York" quite like the smell of bags fermenting garbage piled up to your eyeballs and pee evaporating on sidewalks hot enough to fry a rat the size of a pit bull...

Maybe I'm a midwestern princess and not "hard" enough to handle NYC, but it really does smell. Whenever I visit my first thought is always "this place needs to be fucking bleached." It's a living, breathing city that desperately needs some fucking deodorant.

@8:

Roughly 90% of our "garbage" is either recycled or composted (thus eliminating most of the smell), while the actual garbage probably makes up only about 10% of our total solid waste, plus we put it into neat plastic receptacles with lids that tend to reduce the smell even further. In fact, my garbage hardly has any detectable aroma, even in the hottest months of the year, since it consists almost entirely of Styrofoam meat trays and moisture liners, which are rinsed thoroughly before being deposited in the bin.

But hey, nice try. Take another swing, whydoncha?

@15: uh, not only is life not "easy" in new york, it's needlessly difficult and horrible and disgusting. for no reason. it's in no way worth it. you slave away to live in a fucking garbage dump full of self-obsessed shithead assholes, all for some artificial catalogue dream about glamor and romance. it's the law of diminishing returns in full effect.

if you have a single brain in your head, your figure this out, cut your losses, and GTFO. i'm ashamed that it took me over a year.

Oh, and when you spend four comments in the same thread trying to negate everything someone else has said without actually proving it isn't true - YOU ARE TOTALLY WHINING.

@19 Our garbage bins are nice and thick! It's really nice.

Not to mention Seattle has a composting program and not just the bins that the city picks up, but cheap composters to go in your yard. I got 2 for $40 (and two free bags of compost) and it has cut my garbage usage in half.

Brooklyn, Court Street, between Atlantic and Shmemerhorn (Or whatever), ALWAYS SMELLS LIKE ROTTING GARBAGE.

Also the trash pick up on that street is daily, Also the rest o brooklyn is like every other day.

Everything east of Chicago smells like sweaty asshole!

@21... what does it mean when most of the comments are trying to negate ONE person standing up for a city... i must be cutting a little to close to the bone... and please note that i have stated my love for the people of seattle i have known and have actually thought that seattle is one of very few cities i would ever consider living in... and really hydroza... your gonna lecture me about nyc after trying to live here for a year? i live in a 900 sq ft apt for 1400 per month... with a 1000 sq ft back yard that is private and opens to my bedroom... its quiet enough to sleep with the door open during the warm months... and if you had adjusted to living in the city instead of trying to recreate seattle in nyc... then mabe you would have realized that we trade personal space for the ability to walk to lincoln center or spend time in central park... ok kids... continue to pile on the hate toward me and my city... i gotta go... cause its already almost 5PM here... so enjoy the rest of your work day... im about to go smoke a J on the street in soho and take my cheap and convenient mass transit home...

but anyway... you guys win... seattle is way cooler... you guys have courtney love

@24,
Except for a small patch in Vermont that smells like a mix of maple syrup and cheddar cheese.

And the deep south, which smells of racism and ignorance (and sweaty asshole).

@25:

Really, it's no hair off my nuts, as the saying goes...

See, if you were a REAL New Yawkah, you wouldn't even give a flying fuck about any of this, because your innate sense of superiority would make the very idea of stooping down to this level to defend your city from Philistines clear across the continent an anathema.

And BTW, Portland has the "honor" of claiming Courtney Love as a native daughter(although I believe technically, she was born in SF), so shows what you know.

@27: she also doesn't live here. and hasn't for many, many years.

"then mabe you would have realized that we trade personal space for the ability to walk to lincoln center or spend time in central park"

You don't do any of that shit, you loudmouth. Quit pretending And the only reason garbage pick up in NYC is three times-a-week is because if it wasn't the mob would break the mayor's arm for cutting off a revenue stream.

Hey, I said I enjoy pissing in the phone booths. No complaint here.