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1
Um...duh?

And carrots are totally boss! Who doesn't like carrots?
2
The ad campaign in the story's not about parents getting kids to eat carrots, it's about companies trying to attract parent customers to boost the recession-gutted sales of the most profitable "baby" (i.e., preprocessed regular old) carrots. Price-conscious parents are buying "real" carrots instead, peeling their own. The companies don't like this.
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Just for the record, my parents ate carrots ALL THE TIME and I never did. Still don't. Cause they're nasty.

Good advice, though, just saying it doesn't always work =3
4
Do you eat other veggies, Kit-san?

I eat salmon in front of my son. He won't touch it, thinks it's gross. But he does eat halibut, tuna, mahi-mahi, clams, crab, etc. The boyfriend doesn't eat tomatoes, I don't eat oranges. But we eat lots of fruits and veg in front of him, and he does too, as a result.

We all hate eggplant.

You have to allow for a kid's actual, legit food preferences—not to be confused with letting your kid eat nothing but pizza and mac-n-cheese—but if you have a varied, healthy diet, so will your kid.
5
True, true. But the website is amazing. Click the nutritional info. Gay carrot disco party.
6
Actually, I have to say this is not exactly how things work. My father was a health food junkie. My mother took delight in salads. We kept no sugar cereals or soda in the house my entire childhood and only had other sweets on hand rarely. Oddly though, I was allowed to have the occasional beer with my dad. When I got to college... let's just say it got ugly. Other kids were experimenting with drugs, sex and all that exciting stuff. I was experimenting with, well, cake and Mountain Dew for breakfast. When I graduated, fast food became a staple of my diet. I'm not obese by any definition right now, but I've got about 30 pounds to lose before I get back to my target weight and 20 before I reach an appropriate BMI. I actually eat fairly healthy now and keep only healthy food in my house - and I actually ENJOY eating this way - but I backslide something awful when presented with the opportunity. I probably would have done better to take up a coke addiction like the trust fund kids...
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Wasn't there a post yesterday about the Soda/Btl Water/Candy companies trying to run a campaign about how their products are "food" to help repeal a tax. Now we have a campaign here promoting ACTUAL healthy food that wants to be thought of as "junk food".

Welcome to the downfall of society ladies, and gentleman.
9
Or not raise your kids eating shit, but with how people do in other countries. Then they'll eat carrots because they're the norm and all they have to eat.
10
Children can and should be taught to eat fruits and vegetables. I have seen the terrible toll bad diet has on the body and it usually starts with lazy parenting.
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8

Hey!

Don't keep that shit in the house!
12
And those food preferences are started pretty young, I think. I've seen people feed their kids white food with cheese for the first few years, and by the time they want them to try "adult" food, it's too late. I used to cut up an orange every morning for my daughter and put it on her high chair table. It took her long enough to eat it that I could do important things (like make coffee), and to this day she chooses fruit over anything else. And if you balance things (the occasional cake, pop for parties) you don't get the "college sugar freak out" thing happening, at least as far as I can tell.
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@6 -- You're at least 50 pounds over the top end of your ideal BMI but you do think you're obese?

How tall are you 6ft 6?

You're story actually does illustrate Dan's point, I think.
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@6: There's research on child nutrition suggesting that if parents are overly preachy and get into power struggles with their kid over food ("just one more bite! eat your spinach!!"), their efforts backfire. Perhaps that's what happened in your case.

On the other hand, if you just keep healthy food in the house, eat it yourself, and serve it to your kids at meal times without getting pushy, they will, for the most part, eat it and enjoy it.
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@ 13, I'm 5'6''. I weigh 170. My doctor thinks I should lose 20 lbs. I want to lose 30. But I still don't fall into the obesity category. I like to eat, and I've got a carb addiction from hell. When I'm active, I do quite well. But my job is sedentary - as are most modern jobs - and demands long hours.

Not sure how my story illustrates Dan's point. My parents were extremely active people who made wise choices in their diets for the most part. They encouraged me to make similar choices and presented me with healthy options. It just didn't take.
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@15 Thanks for the clarification.

I say your story illustrates Dan's point because you KNOW what good eating looks like and can aim towards it.

People who don't grow up knowing how to cook, how to shop, or how to read ingredient labels are at a major disadvantage becauee it all seems absolutely foreign.

Life patterns are set early. It doesn't mean change can't happen later but it is really hard to change patterns given to you from birth.

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Mastering the dark art of reverse-reverse psychology, the ad-masters obviously understand that people aren't going to eat something based on nutritional brownie points alone. It might be easier, instead, to convince teens and 20-somethings to eat carrots because it'd be ironic and funny and they'd be in on the joke.

The writer goes on to say that it's doubtful this ad campaign is going to "cause a stampede in the veggie aisle", and I agree, but even if it convinces some kids to swap chips for baby carrots, I'd say that's a good thing.
18
if you grill them, carrots taste better. same for radishes. and mushrooms. same for everything, really.

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This is what happens when you let Crispin, Porter + Bogusky sell...well, anything.
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Dude, my parents were early adopting health food nuts in the '60s and early '70s. I don't think this made me want junk food any less. It actually made me want it more. Once kids are in school, peer pressure probably has a much bigger impact on what they want to eat than parents do.

There didn't used to be a parallel universe of organic convenience foods and cereals like they sell at PCC and Whole Foods. It was just me and my peanut butter and honey sandwich on whole wheat bread sitting there in the lunch room in elementary school while the other kids ate there twinkies and american cheease and balongna sandwiches (yes I'm still bitter ).

If more kids get little bags of carrots in their lunch boxes and the packages look more like lunchables and shit like that, maybe they see that as more normal. I mean lunchables are disgusting. But kids just seem to be magnetically drawn to them.

JL
21
I had to laugh at this because it's so true! My daughter complains about being a "healthy" family because I don't buy chips, soda, or anything else of that nature...unless it's from Trader Joe's. Anyways, when she eats at her friends' homes she cannot stomach what they eat! She's polite and eats what they give her and that means she usually comes home with a stomach ache with a side of lovely diarrhea. My evil plan is working.
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I think people know this, deep down. I think parents get stuck not wanting to force their kids to do something they don't want to, not wanting to have the fights, and not wanting to seem like those crazy health-nut parents (or, worse, those crazy my-12-year-old-drinks-diet-coke-so-she-won't-get-fat parents). What people seem to forget is that allowing your child to be overweight and/or have poor diet habits is a curse they'll bear for the rest of their lives. It might feel mean to force your kid to eat properly, but setting them up to struggle with their health for the rest of their lives is downright cruel. You are unequivocally failing your kids if you let them live off hot dogs and soda and don't teach them to eat vegetables.
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Related ... Kind of lightweight (ha!) but reinforces the topic.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/weig…
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How to get kids to eat their veggies - you yell, "get out of those, they are for supper!" when they snitch the veggies out of the bowl, garden, etc.

Kids picking vegetables - one in the basket, one in the mouth, one in the basket, one in the mouth. Especially with fresh green beans and sweet, ripe sweet 100 cherry tomatoes.

And I agree with those that say having some sweet things in the house is good for learning moderation and avoiding kids binging on it when they are out of the house. That said, I make a really really awesome carrot cake!

Damn, now I'm hungry.

25
My parents were/are pretty awesome, mostly my dad. Lots of variety, excellent Chinese. Rice, a couple of meat or tofu options, always a homemade soup and a dish of stirfried veggies. My parents eat stuff that I still don't like, but there's usually one or two other dishes that I'll dig into. We're not sticks (well, two of us used to be, and then I moved out...) but we're not big either.

I can't think of many veggies I won't eat that I've already tried. I even like raw carrots when they're served with a little hummus, and I like them steamed or boiled in soup. I need to be in the mood for mushrooms. Oh and yellow zucchini is WAY better than green zucchini.

Eggplant is great. Ok, maybe not great, it can be a bit slimy, but there's a way or two. Slap some fish paste on it, panfry, and then a dab of oyster sauce.
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@15 Carb addiction sucks...I've found if you can completely cut out sugar, the carb cravings seem to lessen as well. And no white carbs, stick to whole grain.

Oooo, food blog addition: On a large cookie sheet with sides, toss some chick peas and baby bok choy (barely steamed) with olive oil and sea salt, spread on the cookie sheet, roast for 45 minutes or so at 375, stirring if it becomes dry-looking. Num! (Good fall food, now that summer's over...)
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Unfortunately, when Americans eat baby carrots, they usually dip them in something like Ranch dressing (which has about 50% of your saturated fat for the day)

It's like putting cheese on you're broccoli, etc..

28
Four things that kept me from childhood obesity:
1) We rarely ate at restaurants/fastfood. As a result, we ate at home a lot more, and Mom could work in the veggies and use less butter and oil to cook every freakin' thing.
2) We never got to eat sugary cereals. As a result, I discovered Lucky Charms in college, but didn't have much of an appetite for them.
3) Instead of fruit-flavored things, we got real fruit. It costs more but as a result, once you've had seasonal, fresh strawberries, strawberry flavored things taste like sugar coated crap.
4) Even though I played, and still play, video games, Mom and Dad made us play outside. As a result, I became obsessed with animals. Now I'm a biologist!
29
My parents eating meat was why I became a vegetarian at 13.

So ...
30
I's the other way around in my house. After becoming a vegetarian myself, my parents and siblings now eat alot more fruit and veggies with our meals. I'm the one who usually has to hide away the chocolate and cookies from my dad!
31
If you want kids to eat vegetables don't boil them to death. Try roasting them; the first time I roasted carrots I wanted to slap my momma.

1. Chop carrots in big chunks, toss in olive oil, salt and pepper, 2. put on a foil lined pan, put in 425 oven for twenty-thirty minutes. 3. More salt and pepper (parsley too if you're a fancy-ass). 4. Devour.

Same basic recipe works with almost all vegetables.
32
We had no junk food in the house, so I bought it with my allowance and hoarded it. I would eat an entire family sized bag of Doritos alone when I was 10. I liked to get two flavors of chips and trade off handfuls. Also those amazingly good Little Debbie brownie things. So cheap.

I have absolutely no binge-eating tendencies now, though, nor am I overweight by BMI (indeed, I've always been between the bottom and middle of the "normal" range). Life is, in fact, unfair: I have thinnish parents who like healthy food, and so despite binging on crap for years (to make up for their crazy belief that bread and peanut butter is an adequate snack food for a 10-year-old) I grew up to be a thinnish person who likes healthy food. With high cholesterol, but people on the street can't see that to pass judgment.
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I used to love baby carrots, until I chomped a few from a brand new bag that were rotten. I can't touch them now unless I peel them myself.

@4 - that's because eggplant is disgusting. I've even tried it from restaurants where people assured me they do it amazingly. Nope. Gross.

We didn't eat that great by today's fads—we had a very 1950's midwestern, plaid cookbook diet—but we didn't have a house full of garbage, like so many do, either. Our choices were limited mostly to food at home, and unlike young children today, most kids in my generation didn't have their own spending money until they were old enough to work.
34
uuuhhhHHHhhh....that would make raising kids, like, hard
35
I cooked at a daycare for ten years. Kids don't need to be convinced to eat carrots - easily 80% of little kids love raw carrots. The ones who don't like carrots like something else, like snap peas, or corn on the cob, or apples, or fresh pineapple... Cooked for probably a thousand kids over those years, and met maybe five who did not like any vegetable, and *none* who liked neither fruit nor veggies.

As for the backlash effect of not serving junk food - just serve food. Aim for a basically healthy diet, and just eat it.Today we are having carrots for snack, tomorrow oatmeal cookies, next day hard boiled eggs, next day yogurt, next day oranges, next day pumpkin muffins, next day cheese and crackers. Today we had whole wheat toast and strawberries for breakfast, tomorrow Cheerios and bananas.....
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I know I'm not the only person who has noticed a much higher ratio of obese parents with obese kids than obese parents with healthy-sized kids. I think this is a pretty good indicator of the influence a parent's diet has.

It's not an absolute rule - of course it's possible for kids with healthy parents to end up eating crap, and vice versa. But really - the majority of children aren't going to seek out vegetables while their parents are munching on potato chips and cheeseburgers.
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On the other hand, I can't stand green vegetables...and many of the non-green ones as well. (I can't "force myself" to eat them, either, as placing anything in my mouth that has a very bad taste affects my gag reflex immediately.) Then again, I am a supertaster, so there's probably not much she could've done to get me to enjoy that stuff. Plus, her health nuttism and teachings about food did make a lasting impression on me about, if nothing else, how to make good decisions about my diet (even if, for me, those decisions don't involve vegetables). And I do enjoy many types of fruit.

So, I do get where you're coming from, and I do think (of course) parents have a responsibility to teach their children to eat healthy and mindfully. But seeing my parents eat vegetables for my entire life hasn't made me dislike them any less.
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Shit, disregard my last comment. Somehow I deleted the first part before submitting:

What I wanted to say was that I have to agree with those saying it's not always that easy. My mom is a health nut who has enjoyed salad and vegetables in front of me ever since I existed. And my dad's not a health nut, but he loves vegetables and all that rabbit food just as well.

On the other hand, I can't stand green vegetables...and many of the non-green ones as well. (I can't "force myself" to eat them, either, as placing anything in my mouth that has a very bad taste affects my gag reflex immediately.) Then again, I am a supertaster, so there's probably not much she could've done to get me to enjoy that stuff. Plus, her health nuttism and teachings about food did make a lasting impression on me about, if nothing else, how to make good decisions about my diet (even if, for me, those decisions don't involve vegetables). And I do enjoy many types of fruit.

So, I do get where you're coming from, and I do think (of course) parents have a responsibility to teach their children to eat healthy and mindfully. But seeing my parents eat vegetables for my entire life hasn't made me dislike them any less.
39
Dan is correct about diet, correct about soda, correct about TV, correct about being active, etc., etc., etc.

I'm going to link to this next time that Paul Constant posts something about how he thinks comic books make kids spontaneously want to read.
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Amen.
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@8

pussy.

truth all stingy?

WANT YOUR KID TO BE A BUTTFUCK FAGGOT?
BE A BUTTFUCK FAGGOT YOURSELF, ETC., ETC., ETC.

see how that works?

sure you do.

adoption.
42
Agreed, with one caveat. There are plenty of cases where the parent(s), sometimes through no fault of their own, really aren't around enough to serve as much of a role model period, positive or negative. It's a common enough situation - single parent, works 2 jobs to make ends meet, etc. What's the alternative to positive modeling in that situation?

Also, kudos on recognizing that its okay to accommodate legitimate food preferences. Kids are allowed not to like some foods, so long as it doesn't extend to an entire category (e.g., all vegetables).
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@41: Y U MAD THO?
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"I think parents get stuck not wanting to force their kids to do something they don't want to, not wanting to have the fights"

You mean they get sick of being PARENTS. 90% of the parents I see out there are lazy fuckers, who don't want to cook fresh food for their kids or read to them because goddammit, 'American Idol' is on the box and we can order out dinner!

So you know what, fuck these people; this is white, upper middle class privilege and I love it. We eat organic, whole foods, cook every meal at home fresh, read to our kids constantly, little or no TV: farmer's markets, whole foods, education starting at home. If the poor dumb fuckers who live in this country don't want to emulate us? Well fuck them, they can get minimum wage jobs and die at 50.

What's funny though is Dan Savage wants those of us educated and smart enough to know how to raise our kids right and prevent them from being fat, unhealthy, uneducated fucks, he wants us to pay their health care bills in some kind of collectivist wet dream he keeps having! Well you know what, as long as 70% of healthcare costs in this country are chronic (like the Mexican family I  saw at Golden Gardens letting their 3 yr old drink Mountain Dew) I say fuck the collective.

NOTE: The diet of any 18-25 yr old is irrelevant. You will come home to how your parents raised you.
45
Baby carrots are trying to turn me gay.

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