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For fuck's sake! It's that simple! Any time I have a friend who doesn't like Superman because he's "overpowered," I have them read Birthright, and it turns them around.
And as for Zod, (as long as they are just using him again and not trying to tie to S II) I am ok with it... kind of. Superman has PLENTY of other bad guys that would be amazing on the big screen.
Brainiac perhaps? If you want to tie it back to Krypton again...use The Eradicator. Hell, even bring in Doomsday if you want.
Christopher Nolan's involvement will certainly add a level of easy bogus gloom that some will mistake for "depth."
Can't you just see Gerard Butler as Jor-El, screaming "THIS! IS! KRYPTON!!!!!"
Save your time and money.
The reason to have to live up to Donner's Superman is that it was the first superhero movie blockbuster, and a bona fide classic. It set up the basic structure that nearly all the other supermovies ape.
I'm fairly confident at this point that there's never going to be a good DC movie.
Good DC movies - Superman, Superman II, Batman Begins, Road to Perdition, History of Violence, Superman Returns, The Dark Knight
Your list of good DC movies was great up until Superman Returns. How can you possibly think that was a good movie? TDK was great for the Joker, but everything else just sucked.
Superman Returns was ponderous, boring...full of itself. Snyder doesn't even know how to make that movie, and thank God for that.
Jon Hamm as Superman
Tina Fey as Lois Lane
John Malkovich as Lex Luthor (or Brainiac...whatever)
I dunno who for Zod. Liam Neeson?
That's all any of this is about, not about pleasing the fans or doing justice to the character and his pop-culture legacy, but establishing a multi-picture franchise that will allow Jeff Robinov to swim through a pool of hundred dollar bills like Scrooge McDuck. And if he thinks teaming Nolan with Snyder will accomplish that, then that's what he's going to do, regardless of whether the final product ends up sucking sweaty Krypto-balls.
I think people who want a badass, action hero Superman aren't actually fans, like dwightmoody @6 -- people who dislike the character at an intrinsic level and want to reimagine him as someone else.
Dark Knight was a terrible representation of Batman (and the Joker) but an otherwise okay movie.
There was, I believe, a Superman video game once where he didn't have a health bar- Metropolis did, and you lost if too many people died.
The audience I saw it with stood up and cheered when Gordon turned over the Joker card at the end. The audience I saw Superman Returns with stood up and cheered after the plane rescue scene.
In Batman Begins, Batman decides that he's not going to use guns because a girl slapped him twice. Batman blows up a monastery full of ninjas, presumably killing most if not all of them. Thomas and Martha Wayne's killer is apprehended, removing Batman's motivation to dedicate his life to a war on crime itself. Batman doesn't do any detective work, instead just siphoning gadgets off of his company.
Even as a non-Batman movie, it's bad. All of the action scenes are rendered incomprehensible by the shakey camera work. Two-thirds of the way through the movie, Nolan decided that wasn't enough, and blanketed the city in dense fog. Christian Bale's Batman voice doesn't need me to say anything more than "Christian Bale's Batman voice."
Dark Knight was at least watchable, but Batman still doesn't seem at all intelligent. And he doesn't even throw a single Batarang. I'm not fond of Ledger's "scary clown" interpretation of the Joker; it's too predictable. If Ledger's joker pulled a gun on you, it's not going to pop a flag out and say bang, it's going to be a real gun, and he's going to shoot you.
I didn't like either of them.
@1: And Ben, while I disagree with you on Nolan's Batman movies being no good, I'm gonna check out Birthright as soon as possible. Sounds like something I shouldn't be unfamiliar with any longer.
I didn't have the same interpretation of Batman Begins that you did, though I understand not liking an adaptation because it breaks what you think of as core concepts of a character -- that's how I felt about Burton's truly terrible 1990s Batfilms.
Not that anyone cares what I think, but I fucking can't stand the Eradicator story, nor Doomsday, nor much of any of the Dark Age Superman tales (I guess that makes that material perfect for this Snyder movie, though, since I have zero interest in seeing it).
Birthright wasn't bad at all, though, and I even kind of liked parts of the first season or two of Smallville, before that went completely off the rails.
Grant Morrison's All Star Superman was completely fantastic, mostly because it embraced the goofy, campy charm of the character.
But yes, that's the one thing I expect them to get right. I don't really even want them to just adapt a storyline right out of the comics. I don't care if they screw with continuity. But if you're not going to stay true to the core of the characters, why are you even using the characters in the first place?
And yes, All-Star Superman was outstanding.