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Why is that a stunning statement? You could certainly argue that racial discrimination might somehow drive the black population to commit more crimes but you can't argue the fact blacks disproportionately commit more crimes than whites as a percentage of population. Or maybe these stunned people really do believe cops are just out rounding up innocent blacks and throwing them in prison and the judges are complicit?

@3 is correct. It's hardly breaking news that blacks commit a disproportionately high amount of crimes.

cliche: There is more crime committed by African Americans proportionally, but the convinction and incarceration rate, and severity of penalties, is also proportionally higher. So the proportion of African Americans in the prison population is greater than the proportion of crimes committed.

Those fucking fuck Justices.

P.S. don't forget to talk about Obama's shoes and cuffs and possible pleats.

Yawn.

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@5 - That's a very good point. The context of the statement did have to do with incarceration and whites do commit the most crime by total number.

According to recent statistics, it appears to me that America is under more threat from the US Supreme Court and the WA Supreme Court in terms of threats to its citizens.

Let's profile them and their Corporations.

Bernie Madoff probably stole enough money to represent the sum amount of African-American crime since 1776.

Cascadian @ 5 made my point. Blacks are more likely to be prosecuted for crimes while white folks are more likely to get a warning, or at most a 'slap on the wrist'. The war of drugs is mostly a war on poor blacks.

Wow, a totally reasonable series of comments. Unexpected.

@ 9 -- That would be (marginally) true if the nation were 12% black and 88% white ... but it's not. Blacks commit more crimes - and are victims of more crimes - than any other ethnic category, including whites.

I'm just going to keep posting this until Eli or someone else seriously addresses these facts.

According to the US Department of Justice and the FBI, approximately 5,000 to 8,000 black people are murdered in the USA every year, and at least 94% of their murderers are also black.

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offense…

Murders in the USA in 2009
White murderers = 5,286 (33.5% of the murderers in the USA in 2009)
Black murderers = 5,890 (37.4% of the murderers in the USA in 2009)

Now I know most of you naive white Seattle libtards naively think the USA is something like 50% white and 50% black, because that is what you see portrayed on tv shows and advertisements, but the reality is that the USA is about 75% white and only about 13% black. This means that blacks commit murder at a rate of about 5 to 7 times the rate that whites commit murder, depending on the year.

Let's take a closer look at Seattle!

http://tinyurl.com/no5knk

Extrapolated from the article "List of 2008 homicides in Seattle" from the Seattle PI

selected from the list of the 28 Seattle homicides in 2008....

Allen Joplin, Jan. 4 -- black killed by black

De'Che Morrison, Jan. 10 -- black killed by black

Maurice "Moe" Allen Jr., Jan. 26 -- black killed by black

Degene Barecha, Jan. 30 -- black killed by black

Perry Henderson, Feb. 6 -- black killed by black

Stephan Dwaine Stewart, April 2 -- black killed by black

Eldora Earlycutt, July 4 -- black killed by black

James Paroline, July 10 -- white killed by black

Troy Peters, July 22 -- black killed by black

Pierre Lapoint, Aug. 5 -- black killed by black

Jane Kariuki, Oct. 16 -- woman of undisclosed race killed by black man

Quincy S. Coleman, Oct. 31 -- black killed by black

Edward McMichael, the "Tuba Man", Nov. 3 -- white killed by multiple blacks

Nathaniel Lee Thomas, Nov. 23 -- black killed by black

Blacks (8% of Seattle) were the killers in at least half (that's at least 50%) of the murders in the Seattle area in 2008. At least five of the other murderers were latinos.

Now let's take a look at 2009!
http://tinyurl.com/2aa88vd

The link above is to the Seattle PI's article on homicides in Seattle in 2009.

At least twelve of the 21 murders in Seattle in 2009 were committed by blacks, only 8% of Seattle.

Of the 27 officers that were shot and killed by criminals in the last 20 years in King and Pierce county, 21 of them were shot by black men, even though black men make up less than 3% of the population.

SO! Are you naive white libtards at the Stranger trying to claim that there were a bunch of homicides committed by whites that were not prosecuted, or that some of those murders committed by blacks in 2008 and 2009 were not committed by blacks, but by some other race? I just can't figure out your "logic" here.

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Let's look at some stats in Atlanta. According to cityrating.com Atlanta's population is 431,043. There are about 149 murders per year in Atlanta (4.5 times the national average).

Let's check out Portland, OR with a population of 545,271. Portland, with a population over 100,000 more than Atlanta, has about 27 murders.

Portland = 76% white, only about 7% black

Atlanta = 31% white, 61% black.

How about New York City?

http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homici…

New York Times - New York City Interactive Homicide Map:

Blacks = 60% of the killers, 60% of the victims

Whites = 7% of the killers, 8% of the victims

Blacks = 26% of NYC population

Whites = 35% of NYC population

So what do we surmise with these stats? Answer: More black people equals more murders.

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Before all you Naive White Seattle Libtarded Progressives start going "yeah but whites make up most of the child molesters", please be aware of the following fact:

Be aware that the FBI and USDOJ count non-white Mestizos (the ethnic term for most of the "Mexicans" or "Latinos" or "Hispanics" in the USA) as being WHITE in the "Offender" category (but not in the "Victim" category for some reason), which unfairly raises the reported "white crime rate" much higher than it actually is.

Almost every Police Department in the USA also do the same thing.

Just about every state and local agency does this. Here are some examples from Washington state. Do this guy "GERONIMO RIOS RAMIREZ" listed with the Yakima County Sherrif's Office Sex Offender page look white to you???

http://tinyurl.com/2e8q5nb

Search for yourself:
http://www.icrimewatch.net/index.php?Age…

The Washington State Patrol does the exact same thing. Go to their "Most Wanted" page and check out all the amazing diversity there! Then click on one of the brown, non-white latino mexican whatevers. THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS BEING "WHITE"!

http://www.wsp.wa.gov/crime/wanted.php

How about Texas, where all the rednecks live?

Go look at the Texas Sex Offender Registry:

https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_WE…

Search by any zip code (75214 or 75247 is a good start) you choose and choose a sex offender with an obviously Spanish name and look at his photo and compare it with his racial classification. Notice anything funny??? The sex offender is classified as "white" even though he is a brown, non-white, "latino/hispanic/chicano/mestizo/choose your favorite politically-correct term" person and OBVIOUSLY NOT a white guy.

Like this very very brown "white" guy: http://tinyurl.com/22mtuv5

I have done a thorough study of the Texas Sex Offender site and well over half of all the so-called "white" sex offenders listed there ARE NOT ACTUALLY WHITE AT ALL.

This unfair and inaccurate classification of non-whites as being "white" wrongly inflates the "white crime rate", especially "white sex offender rate" FAR HIGHER than it actually is in reality.

SO WHICH IS IT, NAIVE UNINFORMED CLOSE-MINDED WHITE SEATTLE LIBTARDS? ARE THEY "PEOPLE OF COLOR", OR ARE THEY WHITE? YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!

Now go ahead, naive white libtards at The Stranger, call me "ignorant" or just outright censor this comment. That will only prove that you can't face up to the facts.

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Now, to address the some stuff from the Seattle Times article on the original incident with Judge Sanders:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/lo…

"Justice Debra Stephens said she heard Sanders and Johnson make the comments, including Johnson using the words "you all" or "you people" when he stated that African Americans commit crimes in their own communities."

SO WHAT? I hear black "leaders" referring to "my people" or "our people" all the goddamn time, so why is it terribly offensive if some white guy says essentially the same thing?
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"Bondon said she remembered thinking that she didn't need data or statistics to prove that she and other African Americans don't have a predisposition for criminality.

"Just the idea that it was necessary to disprove the assertion was sickening," Bondon said."

WELL, BRONDON, I JUST DID YOUR WORK FOR YOU, AND YOU TOTALLY LOST THE DEBATE. Doesn't it reflect terribly on the so-called professionalism of Bondon that she thinks the doesn't even need to back up her naive assertions with ACTUAL FACTS????????

Let's wrap it up!

Blacks committed at least 14 of the 28 homicides in Seattle in 2008.

Blacks committed at least 12 of the 21 homicides in Seattle in 2009.

Seattle is only 8% black, which logically means that "crime age" black males ages 14-55 make up about 3% of Seattle or less.

From the Seattle Times article:

"State Supreme Court justices Richard Sanders and James Johnson stunned some participants at a recent court meeting when they said African Americans are overrepresented in the prison population because they commit a disproportionate number of crimes.
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"Sanders later confirmed his remarks about imprisoned African Americans, saying "certain minority groups" are "disproportionally represented in prison because they have a crime problem."

"That's right," he told The Seattle Times this week. "I think that's obvious."

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THEREFORE: Only a complete idiot or a sheltered naive white Seattle libtard would dispute Judge Sanders' statement or get offended by it.

Both of those guys' skin was lighter than John Boehner's. Are you really so upset that some swarthy Latinos might get bunched into your racial category? You must be, because the article was about Blacks, not Hispanics. And in such portions! Next time, try to limit your racism to one group at a time, it'll help preserve the illusion of rationalism on your part, though that may be beyond rescue at any point.

@17 you obviously completely missed the point.

Naive White Libtards like you would usually classify those guys as "People of Color". That only makes sense, because they aren't white. Therefore guys like that unfairly raise the "white sex offender rate".

Also, I don't care about John Boehner, but anyway you are just plain wrong about those non-white guy's skin color being lighter than his.

Keep up the awesome insults while you ignore the facts of reality like a stereotypical naive white sheltered close-minded uninformed Seattle libtarded progressive.

Uh, what's the black unemployment rate in Seattle? How many of those so-called "crime age" black males have already done time on drug beefs for which white people just aren't being busted (the percentage of drug users in the black and white populations is approximately equal). Once you have a felony strike against you, and you are in a high-unemployment demographic, how strange is it that the black males competing for resources, whether legally or illegally, come into conflict that can turn violent? Consider that not everything is innate, and that "black" and "white" are cultural, not scientific, constructs.

And as for someone disputing or being offended "by Judge Sanders' statement," those reactions seems perfectly reasonable to me. His statement was, you understand:
"certain minority groups" are "disproportionally represented in prison because they have a crime problem."

But as the Seattle Times pointed out:
"Similar disparities nationwide have been attributed by some researchers to sentencing practices, inadequate legal representation, drug-enforcement policies and criminal-enforcement procedures that unfairly affect African Americans."

Black people get poorer-quality attorneys than white people. Black people and/or black neighborhoods are targeted for drug investigations (perhaps because white people deal drugs differently, not on the street as often). Black neighborhoods are often targeted more frequently for other types of enforcement too. Black people get stopped for DWB and then get some trivial beef hung on them, when that would not happen to a white person. Black people will no doubt be swept up in Arizona's racial profiling as well. You know, because they "fit the description."

Black people are sentenced differently. The sentencing disparity between crack cocaine and powdered cocaine is an example of a useless distinction with very real racial disparities.

BTW, in those homicide stats, were those arrests or convictions? I wonder how many of the convicted blacks the Innocence Project would clear? Do you know what the conviction rates for whites accused of killing blacks is, and what the convition rate for blacks accused of killing whites is? Those stats might open your eyes.

Hre's some truth for ya about wrongful convictions and why they occur (PDF):
http://action.naacp.org/page/-/Criminal%…