Maybe Sander realizes his job is at risk and now is raising money any way he can to give his campaign mangers (also known as his girlfriends) fatty bonuses!
Regardless, bye bye sanders and hello Mr. Wiggins!
Yeah, our satellite feed is from Seattle, and I've gotta say, all the mouth-watering restaurants Slog reviews and the cool home-porn festivals you have are somewhat tempered by the irretrievable suckage of your local news anchors...I thought the ability to speak clearly was necessary to graduate from perky news anchor school?
YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A VALUES-BASED JUDGEMENT THAT I DISAGREE WITH, HERE ARE SOME SUPERFICIAL CHERRY-PICKED STATISTICS THAT HAVE NO CONSIDERATION BEYOND RAW NUMBERS, DISREGARDING ANY RATIONAL ACADEMIC ASSESSMENT THAT I CAN'T CHERRY-PICK FOR PAVLOVIAN TRIGGERS AND KEYWORDS THAT VERIFY MY OWN RACE-BASED PARANOIA
@13: Naive is touting facts as facile argument and assuming the same superficial assessment of others as though they're one revisiting of facts away from agreeing with you.
For someone like you there's never "more to the story" because that would require a higher level of literacy both figurative and literal.
Canuck, isn't that the truth? Our for-profit "news" reports tend to suck and the anchors make an awful lot of money to read aloud. And in this case Derek is a minor figure at our local public broadcasting station KUOW, so he's really only getting paid like $10 an hour to not be very good at it.
I'm pretty sure your post at #13 is kinda silly because:
1. it only mentions homicides and
2. ole' Richie Sanders was talking about over-representation of African-Americans in prison due to disproportionate numbers of crimes.
So, you've accounted for 35 of those African-Americans in prison, what about the rest of them? What about those who went to prison for simple possession or other low-level crimes whereas their white counterparts are mostly still free?
@23 "What about those who went to prison for simple possession or other low-level crimes whereas their white counterparts are mostly still free?"
Black drug dealers stand around at 3rd & Pine in their ghetto-clown weed-logo outfit and openly sell drugs. White dealers are usually more discreet.
Black criminals who get caught for violent and property crimes oftentimes have drugs in their possession.
Blacks who get caught for drug possession oftentimes already have long criminal records for violent and property crimes, and are thus given longer sentences than a white with an otherwise clean record who is caught for a similar drug crime.
Try some logic once in a while. Observe the reality around you.
Yes, #24, because reality is ... wait for it ... facts about 35 cases, when I'm pretty sure there are more African-Americans in Washington jails than that.
So your point has very little to do with the allegedly racist comments that Richie Sanders made. Good job!
@21: Show me where I disproved your facts -- hint: it's in my basically telling you why your facts are bullshit. Because they are. They're superficial, they're impotent and their blindly swung around as though there's anything approaching relevance to them.
The problem with Sanders' statements -- and yours -- is the lack of consideration put into them. They further an opinion, they have the weight of facts to carry them through, but they have no momentum and are fairly shaky when given even a cursory once-over by sociologists or anyone with the slightest academic inclinations, and that's where you run off the rails and start screaming "DISPROVE ME!!"
You spend an awful lot of time trying to reel people into agreeing with you or writing you off because it makes you seem victorious in either case, but doing what you hate most and looking beyond the superficial at these victory laps it would appear you're just another fuckup that discovered that you can basically misrepresent anything via empty thoughtless recitation.
@25 - So your argument is that black people are worse at selling drugs than white people? Why do your numbers and stats suddenly vanish?
I guess you don't quote numbers when they disagree with your premise, and your argument becomes, "black people are stupid." Talk about pulling back the curtain.
"Naive, sheltered, ivory-tower white commie hippie libtards who can ignore the facts of reality because they are rich and they never actually come into any contact with reality outside of their naive, sheltered, ivory-tower academic groupthink world."
You misspelled: "Experts who conduct properly designed research projects to reach conclusions supported by data."
Dude #41, I'm in Cincinnati. And when I was in Seattle, the only illegal thing I ever saw in Pioneer Square, or anywhere else for that matter, was a white homeless chick sucking dick in some hole-in-the-wall (literally) for, I assume, crack.
Scratch that, I saw many white people buying, selling, and using drugs.
Anyways, it's your job to convince us, not our job to stay unconvinced. Or are you trying to convince yourself?
Fatal International District Shooting Sparked By Baby Mama Drama
By Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
A man suspected of fatally shooting another man in the International District over the weekend told police he was involved in a dispute with the victim after the victim accused him of sleeping with his "baby's mama."
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HMMMM, THAT IS PRETTY INTERESTING<<<<
WHAT ELSE HAPPENED DOWNTOWN RECENTLY???????
Man fatally shot in downtown Seattle
Police: Suspect has violent history
"The man who was shot in the head Tuesday afternoon in downtown Seattle died at Harborview Medical Center, and the suspected gunman was arrested after ordering a sandwich and trying to hide in the bathroom of a nearby gyro shop.
The incident happened about 4:40 p.m. on the northwest corner of Second Avenue and Pike Street."
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@41 - I work at downtown and I walk by that area every day, twice, and I've yet to see any open drug sales. But that's just anecdotal evidence, just like YOUR arguments.
Store Clerk Injured In Capitol Hill Robbery
By Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
From the SPD Blotter:
{snip}
The suspect then punched the clerk in the head with a closed fist, knocking her to the ground. He ran toward the door with the merchandise but dropped the bag just before he left the store.
The clerk, a 27-year-old female, was not seriously injured, though she did have a split lip. SFD responded to the store to evaluate and treat the victim, who did not require additional medical attention.
The suspect, who remains at large, is described as a black male in his 30′s to 40′s, 6 feet tall, 250 lbs., with a muscular build.
Um, #51, nowhere in what you wrote is race mentioned. And I'm not going to click the link in hopes that it does because of your failure to support your own argument.
@49, the only explanation possible is that your naive reality-ignoring feel-good kumbaya libtardism blinds you to what is happening right in front of your face.
Whoa, I was wrong. I WAS WRONG! My post at 52 is totally, wrong, sorry. I don't know what happened, but I was referring to a different post about one Leon Henderson and a tale of a "south-end" gang member punching somebody else outside of a club, then a shooting, then Mr. Henderson being caught while running away as he wiped a gun clean.
The climate in which our people evolved from plays the biggest part in our behavior. Folks who evolved in warm weather climates simply dont have the self-restraint and ability to plan ahead that those who evolved in cold weather climates have.
Regardless, #54, you are pointing out individual cases. That does nothing. Evidence on its own without any framework to build it into a cogent argument is useless. This is exactly what Baconcat kept saying.
@53 - No, it's just that I don't assume any black people congregating are committing a crime, like you. I've never seen money and drugs changing hands, so I don't just assume that's what's going on. Does that make me a liberal? Would the opposite make me a racist? I don't know the answer to either of those questions.
Again, though - what is your argument here besides "black people are stupid?" Numbers, please, Mr. anecdotal evidence.
@55, 57, I did post about that, maybe Slog censored it? Thanks for pointing it out.
Here it is again for your edification. If you think there are ANY white guys in a gang with the word "Piru" in the gang name, then you are just naive and don't know anything about black gangs.
Regarding "Leon Henderson":
Prosecutors Charge Felon For SoDo Nightclub Shooting
"Police stopped Henderson and his two companions—a 17-year-old and 20-year-old man—and recovered the loaded Springfield .45 caliber pistol Henderson had tossed.
Henderson told police a member of a "south end" gang had punched his friend—who court records say belongs to the Central District-based Valley Hood Piru—outside the club, but denied firing a gun."
#58, evidence? Cause otherwise, that sounds like some creepy ... dare I say it? ... no, I won't. Anyways, that is almost the definition of racism, if by "Folks who evolved in warm weather climates" you mean "black people". And that is what it sounds like you're saying.
I'm with Canuck, here - the louder you shout at NWLSP, the harder his dick gets. Relax. He's a racist, you can't change his mind, and he'll get banned eventually for spamming.
I don't think we get enough chances to actually talk to people like him. Hey, NWLSP: what does your ideal country look like?
"Again, though - what is your argument here besides "black people are stupid?" Numbers, please, Mr. anecdotal evidence."
My point? All you libtarded naive white hipsters get mad when anyone points out that black men commit the most violent crime. You shouldn't, it is the indisputable truth.
Black males ages 14 - 55 make up only about 3% of Seattle.
14 of the 28 homicides in Seattle in 2008 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
12 of the 21 homicides in Seattle in 2009 were committed by black malesages 14 - 55.
At least half of the 17 homicides in Seattle so far in 2010 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
Another thing I like about NWLSP is that he blames our inability to recognize the inferiority of black people on our being liberals, which suggests that he thinks all conservatives think the way he does, but are too constrained by the PC thugs of the world to speak the truth. And, y'know; he might be right! It's amazing what we can learn.
#65, homicide is only one type of violent crime. Maybe you're willing to extrapolate that out to all violent crime. I'm not. Besides, violent crime is only a small part of the overall crime picture.
Gad, and I know Savage isn't reading this, but assholes like Basehead are -exactly- why he shouldn't be fawning over Sex at Dawn. Evolutionary psychology is bullshit science and it can be used to support anything.
#79 - just so you know, I'm against reporting you for your ideas. But I'm for reporting you IF YOU CONTINUE TO RECYCLE THE EXACT SAME POST OVER AND OVER.
That is spam. Spam is annoying. Just keep rearranging your paragraphs, sentences, and words and you will not only NOT be spamming, but you will also 'look' more convincing.
Yeah, I know. But we (this post) are almost to the top of the Most Commented list! Also, arguing with this dude is better than trying to argue with my cat or roommate and I really need the practice.
@65 - Am I denying your numbers about violent crime? They only time I have is when you claimed Atlanta had only 400K people, conveniently ignoring the Atlanta metropolitan area that the crime stats you quoted included.
The increased rates of incarceration of black drug users vs. white drug users, on the other hand, is indisputable. Which is why you keep changing the subject, and why your stats suddenly disappear.
76, In the 20th century alone, Russia and China killed more than the West had in the previous 1400 years. Have you ever heard of communism? White, Christian, western culture is responsible for almost all that is good in the world. Whites are the most capable of establishing and running the most productive and sophisticated countries that man is capable of running. It's not arguable.
#87 - You are very confusing; are you trying to argue something that you are saying is inarguable? So you refute your own argument, making everybody else's job easier. Thanks!
@79: Correlation does not imply causation. Learn2Science.
By your logic, popsicles cause drowning, since there is a very strong correlation between popsicle consumption levels and the prevalence of drowning accidents.
[H]e hasn't seen evidence that African Americans are disproportionately imprisoned because of race . . . .
And yet, the Ninth Circuit held in January of this year that
[D]isparities in the state's justice system "cannot be explained in race-neutral ways" . . . .
This was a well-publicized decision originating in Washington. For Sanders not to be aware of it means that he is deliberately ignorant or simply lying. Neither is an attractive trait for a State Supreme Court justice.
@73: Wow. Just ... wow. Why don't you just come out and say it. You know you want to: "Whites are superior to other races". Hey, throw in "Men are superior to woman" while you're at it. It follows just the same from your 'logic'.
Oh, and before I got hung up on Naive . . . [moron], I originally meant to say that I like Derek Wang. And the error he made on a live broadcast doesn't seem to justify Dan's hissy fit. An "incompetent, marble-mouthed moron"? Jeez, Dan, relax. Do you want us to hold you to the "perfect while on the air" standard? I didn't hear the report, but he may have been reading from mistaken text prepared by someone else. It can't always be easy getting through every live newscast. Didn't they teach you in parochial school, "Judge not, lest ye be judged?"
Conservative White males ages 39 - 85 make up only about 15% of Seattle.
26 of the 28 banks that failed in Seattle were run by conservative white males aged 39-85
18 of the 21 cases of multimillion dollar fraud in Seattle in 2009 were committed by conservative white males aged 39-85
At least three quarters of the businesses taxpayers bailed out were run by conservative white males 39-85 who took a huge bonus after the businesses were saved.
I was gonna say that you should all click on NWLSP's profile to see his profile pic and decide if you really think he's not a troll, but it appears that he's removed the horrific picture from his profile. Well, just know that it was pretty goddamned race-baiting.
@103 I'd rather get ripped off for my life savings by white jews a million times a day than get raped and killed by anyone of any race... and my chances of getting raped and killed by blacks are far higher than my chances of getting killed by any other race.
ALSO AT @103:
Of the 27 officers that were shot and killed by criminals in the last 20 years in King and Pierce county, 21 of them were shot by black men, even though black men make up less than 3% of the population.
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@95... you are king of teh internetz and your kewl snarkiness made all these facts vanish:
Black males ages 14 - 55 make up only about 3% of Seattle.
14 of the 28 homicides in Seattle in 2008 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
12 of the 21 homicides in Seattle in 2009 were committed by black malesages 14 - 55.
At least half of the 17 homicides in Seattle so far in 2010 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
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KEEP ON IGNORING REALITY MY NAIVE WHITE SEATTLE LIBTARDS. CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD THAT MORE BLACKS WILL GET KILLED BY OTHER BLACKS IN SEATTLE BEFORE THE WEEKEND IS OVER.
Regardless, bye bye sanders and hello Mr. Wiggins!
Still, marble-mouth moron is my guess.
YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A VALUES-BASED JUDGEMENT THAT I DISAGREE WITH, HERE ARE SOME SUPERFICIAL CHERRY-PICKED STATISTICS THAT HAVE NO CONSIDERATION BEYOND RAW NUMBERS, DISREGARDING ANY RATIONAL ACADEMIC ASSESSMENT THAT I CAN'T CHERRY-PICK FOR PAVLOVIAN TRIGGERS AND KEYWORDS THAT VERIFY MY OWN RACE-BASED PARANOIA
I was thrilled when they pulled him off the morning show.
I need some Wang Work done. I was in an accident.
For someone like you there's never "more to the story" because that would require a higher level of literacy both figurative and literal.
And the station name is not KUOW. Apparently it is "KUOW - News and Information." How many times a day can you hear that and not switch?
Don't suppose you could give me a heads up on this week's Lotto Max draw?
I MEAN SINCE WE'RE HAVING A COME TO CHRIST AND ALL
Oh, that's right, you can't, which is why you engage in your impotent ritual of making lame insults.
I'm pretty sure your post at #13 is kinda silly because:
1. it only mentions homicides and
2. ole' Richie Sanders was talking about over-representation of African-Americans in prison due to disproportionate numbers of crimes.
So, you've accounted for 35 of those African-Americans in prison, what about the rest of them? What about those who went to prison for simple possession or other low-level crimes whereas their white counterparts are mostly still free?
?
Black drug dealers stand around at 3rd & Pine in their ghetto-clown weed-logo outfit and openly sell drugs. White dealers are usually more discreet.
Black criminals who get caught for violent and property crimes oftentimes have drugs in their possession.
Blacks who get caught for drug possession oftentimes already have long criminal records for violent and property crimes, and are thus given longer sentences than a white with an otherwise clean record who is caught for a similar drug crime.
Try some logic once in a while. Observe the reality around you.
So your point has very little to do with the allegedly racist comments that Richie Sanders made. Good job!
Your facts made a better point, even if they were not well used. They just 'looked' better.
The problem with Sanders' statements -- and yours -- is the lack of consideration put into them. They further an opinion, they have the weight of facts to carry them through, but they have no momentum and are fairly shaky when given even a cursory once-over by sociologists or anyone with the slightest academic inclinations, and that's where you run off the rails and start screaming "DISPROVE ME!!"
You spend an awful lot of time trying to reel people into agreeing with you or writing you off because it makes you seem victorious in either case, but doing what you hate most and looking beyond the superficial at these victory laps it would appear you're just another fuckup that discovered that you can basically misrepresent anything via empty thoughtless recitation.
Toto pulled back your curtain, biyotch.
I guess you don't quote numbers when they disagree with your premise, and your argument becomes, "black people are stupid." Talk about pulling back the curtain.
You misspelled: "Experts who conduct properly designed research projects to reach conclusions supported by data."
Hope that helps.
"my bad"
I think you lost when...
the facts you cited did not fully address the issue...
you backed up your facts with anecdotes and conjecture even though you shouldn't need them if facts support your case...
you gave up and fell back to your original facts like a child screaming "I CAN'T HEAR YOU, I CAN'T HEAR YOU"...
Scratch that, I saw many white people buying, selling, and using drugs.
Anyways, it's your job to convince us, not our job to stay unconvinced. Or are you trying to convince yourself?
http://seattlecrime.com/2010/10/25/fatal…
posted 10/25/10 05:27 PM | updated 10/25/10 05:27 PM
Fatal International District Shooting Sparked By Baby Mama Drama
By Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
A man suspected of fatally shooting another man in the International District over the weekend told police he was involved in a dispute with the victim after the victim accused him of sleeping with his "baby's mama."
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HMMMM, THAT IS PRETTY INTERESTING<<<<
WHAT ELSE HAPPENED DOWNTOWN RECENTLY???????
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/429093_sh…
Tuesday, October 26, 2010
Man fatally shot in downtown Seattle
Police: Suspect has violent history
"The man who was shot in the head Tuesday afternoon in downtown Seattle died at Harborview Medical Center, and the suspected gunman was arrested after ordering a sandwich and trying to hide in the bathroom of a nearby gyro shop.
The incident happened about 4:40 p.m. on the northwest corner of Second Avenue and Pike Street."
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Good luck with NWLSP...
Come on, Mr. Numbers. What gives?
Is your name, by any chance, Brian Cox or Bryan Cox?
http://seattlecrime.com/2010/11/07/store…
posted 11/08/10 10:34 AM
Store Clerk Injured In Capitol Hill Robbery
By Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
From the SPD Blotter:
{snip}
The suspect then punched the clerk in the head with a closed fist, knocking her to the ground. He ran toward the door with the merchandise but dropped the bag just before he left the store.
The clerk, a 27-year-old female, was not seriously injured, though she did have a split lip. SFD responded to the store to evaluate and treat the victim, who did not require additional medical attention.
The suspect, who remains at large, is described as a black male in his 30′s to 40′s, 6 feet tall, 250 lbs., with a muscular build.
are you illiterate?
I will quote from my own post, quoted from Seattle Crime dot com.
"The suspect, who remains at large, is described as a black male in his 30′s to 40′s, 6 feet tall, 250 lbs., with a muscular build."
Again, though - what is your argument here besides "black people are stupid?" Numbers, please, Mr. anecdotal evidence.
Here it is again for your edification. If you think there are ANY white guys in a gang with the word "Piru" in the gang name, then you are just naive and don't know anything about black gangs.
Regarding "Leon Henderson":
Prosecutors Charge Felon For SoDo Nightclub Shooting
11/08/10
http://seattlecrime.com/2010/11/08/prose…
"Police stopped Henderson and his two companions—a 17-year-old and 20-year-old man—and recovered the loaded Springfield .45 caliber pistol Henderson had tossed.
Henderson told police a member of a "south end" gang had punched his friend—who court records say belongs to the Central District-based Valley Hood Piru—outside the club, but denied firing a gun."
I don't think we get enough chances to actually talk to people like him. Hey, NWLSP: what does your ideal country look like?
My point? All you libtarded naive white hipsters get mad when anyone points out that black men commit the most violent crime. You shouldn't, it is the indisputable truth.
Black males ages 14 - 55 make up only about 3% of Seattle.
14 of the 28 homicides in Seattle in 2008 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
12 of the 21 homicides in Seattle in 2009 were committed by black malesages 14 - 55.
At least half of the 17 homicides in Seattle so far in 2010 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
Also, piru sounds Filipino to me, but that is coming from a base of NO knowledge.
The stranger staff needs to hear about him another way.
I can see where you might think that since the name "Leon Henderson" sounds SOOOO FILIPINO.
Piru image search
http://tinyurl.com/25jbqj3
Pirus are part of The Bloods.
Over the past 1500 years, name me the group that has killed more people than Western Europeans?
The stranger staff needs to hear about him another way. "
YES BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T REFUTE THE FACTS, THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL CENSOR THEM!!!!
Black males ages 14 - 55 make up only about 3% of Seattle.
14 of the 28 homicides in Seattle in 2008 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
12 of the 21 homicides in Seattle in 2009 were committed by black malesages 14 - 55.
At least half of the 17 homicides in Seattle so far in 2010 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
Because your the stuff murderers are made from
That is spam. Spam is annoying. Just keep rearranging your paragraphs, sentences, and words and you will not only NOT be spamming, but you will also 'look' more convincing.
If you go through his comment history you'll see that he spews the same numbers and 'facts' over and over and over
Yeah, I know. But we (this post) are almost to the top of the Most Commented list! Also, arguing with this dude is better than trying to argue with my cat or roommate and I really need the practice.
The increased rates of incarceration of black drug users vs. white drug users, on the other hand, is indisputable. Which is why you keep changing the subject, and why your stats suddenly disappear.
You do not exist. I am sorry, but it is written:
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
Over the past 1500 years, name me a group that has killed more people than Europeans and Asians?
By your logic, popsicles cause drowning, since there is a very strong correlation between popsicle consumption levels and the prevalence of drowning accidents.
Good lord.
And yet, the Ninth Circuit held in January of this year that
This was a well-publicized decision originating in Washington. For Sanders not to be aware of it means that he is deliberately ignorant or simply lying. Neither is an attractive trait for a State Supreme Court justice.
Awe. I hope you didn't pay much. Check your place! they're the stealing type.
26 of the 28 banks that failed in Seattle were run by conservative white males aged 39-85
18 of the 21 cases of multimillion dollar fraud in Seattle in 2009 were committed by conservative white males aged 39-85
At least three quarters of the businesses taxpayers bailed out were run by conservative white males 39-85 who took a huge bonus after the businesses were saved.
ALSO AT @103:
Of the 27 officers that were shot and killed by criminals in the last 20 years in King and Pierce county, 21 of them were shot by black men, even though black men make up less than 3% of the population.
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@95... you are king of teh internetz and your kewl snarkiness made all these facts vanish:
Black males ages 14 - 55 make up only about 3% of Seattle.
14 of the 28 homicides in Seattle in 2008 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
12 of the 21 homicides in Seattle in 2009 were committed by black malesages 14 - 55.
At least half of the 17 homicides in Seattle so far in 2010 were committed by black males ages 14 - 55.
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KEEP ON IGNORING REALITY MY NAIVE WHITE SEATTLE LIBTARDS. CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD THAT MORE BLACKS WILL GET KILLED BY OTHER BLACKS IN SEATTLE BEFORE THE WEEKEND IS OVER.
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