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We can't pick our parents, but we can choose how we live our lives.

PLEASE hang in there kiddos. It Gets Better, we promise.
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Luke Sissyfag Montgomery is still at it. Got to give him credit for fun video, but what percentage of the t-shirt sales will be going to services for gay kids compared to how much will go into Luke's own pocket.

Remember, this guy has a track record of jumping on the latest hottest thing from the Haiti Earthquake to the BP oil spill and making a buck off it with creative use of the FCK.

Not to mention the ancient history of Sissyfag attacking gay office holders for not doing enough about AIDS (I watched him call Rep. Cal Anderson a fag-hating homophobe who was killing queers a few years before Cal died from AIDS), then transforming into an ex-gay who cashed in from the religious right before reverting back to gay. He's an attention whore and disaster profiteer. FCK SISSYFAG!
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I saw on the Capitol Hill Seattle blog a few days ago that those pesky Queer Youth Seattle kids are doing a spinoff of IGBP.
http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2010/1…
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"totes fine" jeezus. anyone over the age of 40 who uses the word "totes" is revealing himself to be a dbag. and Dan, you haven't seen the 30's in a long long time.
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People who think kids cussing is somehow edgy and cool are people who deep down inside think it's wrong for kids to cuss.

This video fails for the exact reasons the IGBP videos succeed: it's fake, they're sincere. IGBP: real people addressing a real issue. This video: attention whores whoring for attention in a way that's so unfunny that it makes me look away in embarrassment for them.
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how do homosexual kids who are rejected by family compare to heterosexual kids who are rejected by family?
wouldn't it be cool if we tried to help and be there for all kids who are struggling.....
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An excerpt from a local rag in Columbus Ohio regarding IGBP: http://outlookcolumbus.com/2010/11/compl…

To Dan Savage, Ellen DeGeneres, and other LGBT personalities: many of these young people would not have spoken with you in the first place, no matter your intentions. You’re So Gay, and that’s exactly what they so desperately do not want to be. Even if you were Straight, the implication of queerness induces internalized panic. Like their peers who beat them up, many of these kids crave to be unnoticed, invisible. They are presented no other option.
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I think anything tbat gets this issue out there and noticed is a good thing. However, I ordered T shirts for my daughter and one of her gay buddies to wear at school, and it still hasn't arrived 7 weeks later...wish they'd put a little more effort into getting their shipping in gear!
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@5 -- From what I can tell, Luke did not build or run an orphanage in Haiti, he says he's a co-founder of "http://www.wecanbuildanorphanageblog.com" which is raising money for an orphanage in Jacmel, Haiti.

While he claims to be a co-founder of the orphange at http://www.care2.com/causes/human-rights…, he does not appear on the orphanage's web site when you search his name.

Besides, if he's running an orphanage in Haiti, where the fuck does he find the time to take on BP and now anti-gay bullying? Color me pretty fucking suspicious.
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@7: Oh, absolutely. But nobody's rejected by their parents for being straight, so this is not the right outreach program to ask. There are plenty of youth resources to help kids who have abusive or unloving parents; this one is just filling a gap that the others don't have the resources or the focus to attend to.
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Canuck, I did get an email saying they were alllllmost ready to ship my ancient order, too, but also that, lo these weeks later, they now have really good styles available, including girls' fit. Oh well. It's for the cause and they say (after you've paid) that slow shipping helps more of our contribution go for good work instead of shipping costs but ARGHH.
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Canuck & Gloomy Gus -- honestly? "Slow shipping helps more go for good work."

Even the slowest U.S. Mail shouldn't take more than two weeks to get anywhere in the continental U.S. Add in a couple of weeks to produce the shirts and you're looking at 4-6 weeks max to receive, process, produce and ship an order. Do you think someone who is so disorganized that they can't ship a t-shirt in two months is going to ensure the fraction of the cost they promise will be donated to the cause is actually reaching the people it's supposed to help?

You're better off making a donation directly to an organization like GLSEN, Trevor Project or Washington's own Safe Schools Coalition.
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@8- You're right. We should just shut up and give up on our people, no matter how desperate or young they are. Best let the bigots drive them to suicide than try to help.
Why oh why didn't we check with you and Columbus, Ohio FIRST?
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"totes"? Really, Dan?
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Not sure if you'll check back here, gus, but I decided to call and ask...order placed on Oct 20 was shipped Nov 13, and my daughter in BC just got it yesterday (just heard from her)! Yikes...anyhoo, love the new styles, and colours, just ordered a few more things in purple (wristbands, finally!) so will no doubt be able to wear them by Valentines Day...

PS... I did, however, get the first order I placed, which was a few pink FCKH8 buttons, which I tossed into the dash tray in my car. Couldn't figure out why the cute, young guy at the dealership was being so nice to me the day I got my snow tires on, and when I got into the car, saw the buttons there...aha... :)
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I'm just as opposed to people roping their kids into a Tea Party protest out on Main St as I am to seeing kids this young doing this sort of video. I totally agree with the message, but I'm against people having their kids get involved with causes they're too young to really understand.
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@17 But that's just what we hear from people who don't want sex ed that includes learning that gays exist taught to kids in the younger grades, at least that's what happened here in Ontario recently. If the kids in the video are actually the children of gay parents, then they are certainly familiar with the subject. And if they're not? If they just got hauled off the street and put in front of the camera because they're cute? Well, how young is too young to teach someone that it's bad to hate or discriminate? Personally, I think that lesson is best learned early, along with the other important lessons, like please and thank you and finish your peas.
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How young is too young to teach someone that homosexual behavior is unhealthy and dangerous?
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Social disapproval causes suicide?
Really?

Who is more persecuted in American society; whites or blacks?
And yet, blacks have a lower suicide rate....
THAT AIN'T RIGHT......

Jews have lower suicide rates than Christians.
naturally.

the facts will expose Dan's "Christians have caused an EPIDEMIC of homosexual suicides" scam to be a hoax......

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"Your Anti-Gay Votes Help Slit Their Throats!"

we'll bet that bumper sticker would really sell.....
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Absolutely FCK-ing brilliant
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@19: You can teach them that at the same time you teach them that heterosexual behavior is unhealthy and dangerous.
@20: Blacks aren't persecuted by other blacks, and even relatively rarely by whites in most parts of the country. Like I've said before, ethnic minorities have a community that supports them. Gays often don't even have the support of their own family. Keep fucking that chicken, Alleged.
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Heterosexual behavior does not give 20% AIDS.
(Perhaps unhealthy and dangerous don't mean what you think they so)

.

Perhaps Gays should quit persecuting other Gays.
(And quit infecting each other with deadly diseases, while they're at it....)
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plus homosexuality makes kids WAY more likely to kill themselves so how young is too young to warn kids about THAT aspect of the gay?
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@24: Homosexual behavior doesn't give 20% AIDS either. I've been running the numbers over and over, using the CDC's estimates from different years, and not a single calculation comes close to supporting what you're saying.
Heterosexuality is pretty damn unhealthy for you if practiced recklessly. It's as good a way as homosexuality to pick up herpes, hep C, chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, crabs, or even the AIDS. And there's always the strictly heterosexual risk of getting preggers, which can be very taxing to the body and probably ruin your life if it happens before you're ready for it.

@25: Correlation does not imply causation. Just because gays are more likely to suffer from depression etc. does not mean that homosexuality causes that. In fact, the evidence points towards societal persecution being the main cause.

And the troll only thinks of the children when it comes to jamming his hateful and unscientific ideology down their throats; not when it comes to properly educating them on how the world works, or ensuring that they are cared for even if their parents can't or won't provide for them. The way you care about children is the way Syria and Iran care about the Palestinians: only as an excuse for bullshitting other people.
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junior, you're selling your ADD medicine again, aren't you.....

it isn't what WE are saying.

It is what the CDC said. And the NYT. etc etc.

Homosexuality, as practiced in the Real World, infects 20% of it's population with AIDS.
And way higher rates of herpes, hep C, chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis.

Heterosexuals, real world practicing heterosexuals,
according to the CDC,
get AIDS 1/88th as much as homosexuals.
again, perhaps "unhealthy" and "dangerous" don't mean what you think they do.

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very good, junior.
Correlation does NOT imply causation.
it is unclear if homosexual choices cause mental illness
or
if mental illness predesposes to homosexuality.

what is clear is the correlation.
finding the cause of the mental illness
and treating it effectively should be the first order of business.

creating smokescreens
and
using homosexual suicide as an excuse for a homoliberal antichristian pogrom
deflects attention
and resources
away from that goal.

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very nice analogy for feigned concern for the children.
a better one would have been Dan's "Every Child Deserves...." series, however.
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@27: Actually, it's really just what you're saying.
The CDC found that in 21 selected cities, 19% of gay or bisexual men had measurable levels of HIV in their blood. You seem to be claiming that one in five homosexuals OVERALL have AIDS, which is different from HIV infection, and is a very different statistic than that from only 21 cities. Additionally, the methodology of the CDC study was seriously flawed in that it tested only individuals who went to an STD clinic. Now THAT'S a self-selecting population if I ever saw one!
Your claim that homosexuality predisposes people to any sexually transmitted disease is rather laughable. Medical researchers have agreed time and again that irresponsible promiscuity is what will get you the clap. Remember, O Best Beloved, that Dan Savage is a proponent of responsible sexuality.
Glad to see that you're admitting that correlation doesn't imply causation, but you're still a bit fuzzy on a few key aspects. Correlation doesn't actually imply that one causes the other; they could share a common cause, or they could be entirely unrelated. You can often observe a strong correlation between the inclination of the rings of Saturn and the value of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, but damned if you'll infer any causation!
In this case, homosexuality predisposes people to persecution by religious groups, a known cause of depression and other psychological illnesses. And we're doing our damnedest to cut off than chain of causality, despite the whining of butthurt religious groups.
Finally, it's funny that you should claim that YOU GUYS are the victims of a pogrom, seeing as YOU are the establishment trying to disenfranchise a minority that you see as threatening you.

Also, your name this time is as full of shit as your arguments. "Savage" actually comes from Old French.
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Study: 20 Percent of Gay Men Have HIV, Half Don't Know They're Infected

– New York Times
Monday, September 27, 2010
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@28

Hey Venom!

They did a story about you!

"LESS THAN A YEAR AFTER CDC ANNOUNCED THE U.S. HIV EPIDEMIC IS MUCH LARGER THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT, PUBLIC’S SENSE OF URGENCY IS DOWN, EVEN AMONG SOME HIGHER RISK GROUPS"

http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/posr04280…
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".........Half Don't Know They're Infected"

have you been tested?
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now junior.
we never claimed that homosexuality predisposes people to any sexually transmitted disease.
but feel free to laugh.
it is healthy.
we merely shared the CDC's findings that those who practice homosexuality give each other STDs at brutally high rates.

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why do homosexuals who live in liberal secular humanist societies that embrace the Gay also have greatly elevated rates of mental illness and suicide?
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@29: You're an idiot. Show me the actual study itself, and I'll explain (AGAIN) why it doesn't mean anything like you think it does. (PROTIP: it only covered 21 cities, not the entire USA, and used a heavily biased sample population that should not be used to draw any meaningful conclusions about the population at large.)
@30, 31: Did you come up with that lame-ass insult all on your own? If so, you should be bull-whipped for inflicting us all with something so stupid.
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is the CDC study less statistically valid than Dan's study trumpeting what great mommies lesbians are?
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Study: 20 PERCENT OF GAY MEN HAVE HIV, HALF DON'T KNOW THEY'RE INFECTED!

– New York Times
Monday, September 27, 2010
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bahahah that little girl was SOOOO funny. I love her!

And I love... shoes.

omg shoes.
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@34: Apples and oranges, Alleged.
@35: One, I've already explained why the survey is unreliable for modeling statistics over the entire USA, due to its biased sample population. Two, having HIV is not the same as having HIV. 3 to 4 percent of gay men have AIDS nationwide; I've already run the calculations using several sets of numbers from the CDC. Assuming that the ratio of HIV infection to AIDS diagnosis is similar across all categories (a reasonable assumption), 5-7% of gay men nationwide are HIV-positive.
You really need to stop pretending you know anything about statistics.
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@35: Also, you're a bald-faced liar. The New York Times published no such article under that headline, nor did it publish any article relating to HIV at all on 9/27/10.
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"Study: 20 Percent of Gay Men Have HIV, Half Don't Know They're Infected – New York Times
Monday, September 27, 2010

About 20 percent of gay and bisexual men are HIV-positive—but nearly half don't know it, a new study suggests. More than 8,000 men in 21 cities were tested for the virus in 2008, and 44 percent were unaware they were infected, according to the analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Least likely to know they had HIV? Young, sexually active gay men. Baltimore's gay population had a 38 percent infection rate, the highest among the cities included in the study. More than 56,000 Americans become infected with HIV each year, and 18,000 die of AIDS annually, the CDC reports. "This study's message is clear: HIV exacts a devastating toll on men who have sex with men, and yet far too many of those who are infected don't know it," Kevin Fenton, director of the CDC's National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention, told The Washington Post."

http://www.canadaka.net/forums/rants-rav…
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"Study puts HIV rate among gay men at 1 in 5"

"One in five gay men in the United States has HIV, and almost half of those who carry the virus are unaware that they are infected, according to a new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con…
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Study Finds 20 Percent of Sexually Active Gay, Bisexual Men Have AIDS

A new Kaiser Family Foundation study found that 20 percent, or one in five, gay men who are sexually active have HIV. Forty four percent of those who tested positive said they did not know they had the virus. The study is based on tests and interviews with 8,000 men from 21 different U.S. cities.

The study says that overall, less than half of 1 percent of the U.S. population is infected with AIDS, but sexually active gay and bisexual men are affected at much higher rates.

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/als-m…
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Remember Kids!-
Your Anti-Gay Votes Help SLIT THEIR THROATS!
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How many parents will bury a homosexual offspring who died of AIDS in 2010?

10,000?

15,000?

What percentage of the teens who come out this year will get AIDS?

20%?

25%?

compared to how many teen actually committed suicide because of christian teachings- 10?

someone needs to make a new video.

"You encourage your kid to embrace the Gay, you bury your kid..."

it sure doesn't flow but it sure is way more relevant and truthful.

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@39, 40, 41: You just cited the same study three times. And the study is horribly flawed, if only because the entire population used was from an urban setting. Is it really that surprising to you that there's a high rate of HIV in major US cities? This says absolutely nothing about homosexuality, and a lot about urban culture and views towards safe sex.
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@39,40,41: None of those articles are from the New York Times, as you claimed, and one of them isn't even from a news source. Also, you continue to equate HIV with AIDS. Also, I've run the nation-wide numbers using the CDC's own estimates for several years, and ended up with numbers much lower than you claim. Quit beating that dead horse.

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