Except for the Aztecs. They paid up on the sun rent.
I think the makers of the hiv video (in the below post) should use the same tactics to demonstrate what these cuts will do to our society.
Bataille also wrote what I think of as the Song of Slog:
A judgment about life has no meaning except the truth of the one who speaks last, and the mind is at ease only at the moment when everyone is shouting at once and no one can hear a thing.
Just remember that what the Sun giveth, the Sun can taketh away.…
I live in Seattle. What is this sun you speak of?
If this is all our system can produce, it's time for a new system. Clearly, this one is beyond repair.
Time to simply take what is rightfully ours. Trickle down doesn't work. I don't understand working class people who think they have something in common with the wealthy. Time to just take our share.
@7 - Trickle down doesn't work? How much would you say you've personally contributed to the human advancements that allow you to sit in comfort in front of a computer and complain that you haven't benefited from other people's hard work?
Many of them DO in fact have something in common with the wealthy @7: it's called "greed".

Some members of the lower and middle-class may not have any money, they may even recognize that the rich are absconding with the lion's share of the wealth in this country (and around the globe for that matter), but by golly, so long as there's Power Ball, Mega Millions, Las Vegas, umpteen-gazillion variations on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?" or the chance of finding some long-lost work of art shoved into the back of grandma's attic, they're going to take the side of the wealthy, simply because they dream of someday being wealthy themselves, and they're not going to do anything to jeopardize that extremely remote possibility.

The truth of cours is that it's never going to happen to them, but dreams are hard to kill, especially when they're perpetuated by those who can use them to their own advantage and at the dreamer's expense.
Speaking of depopulation...

The statewide seasonally adjusted jobless rate held at 9.2 percent last month — the same as October, the state Employment Security Department said Tuesday.

In the Seattle-Bellevue-Everett area, however, it rose from 8.9 percent to 9.1 percent.

October's statewide unemployment originally was reported as 9.1 percent, but was revised to 9.2 percent after more analysis, the department said.

The state added just 100 jobs during November.…
Canada literally spends more on solar research than the US does.

Surprisingly, Seattle is a fairly good place for solar.
@10 for the Seattle Rules, Suburbs Drool win.
@12: The jobs were in the Seattle-Bellevue-Everett area. That includes a hell of a lot of suburbs.

Just what do you consider a suburb? Cle Elum?
Yes. Cle Elum.

Bellevue is a city.

It was a city back in the 80s too.

Please pay attention.
@14: Redmond? A suburb. Kirkland (where Google is doing a lot of hiring)? A suburb. Renton? A suburb. Issaquah (home to Costco)? A suburb.

Should I go on?
@8, without the working class's mind and muscle, not a single cog can turn. Also, the wealthy benefit from an educated workforce and good infrastructure to transport their goods. Therefore, they can pay their fair share of dues to society in the form of taxes.
@9, I agree. I work with people who think like that. One guy I work with is obsessed with the lottery,(he won a good chunk once, but it's gone) and most of what he talks about is how much money other people have, and all the rich and notorious people he knows (as if I'm impressed). He's also a shameless brown noser of the boss, but it doesn't get him anywhere. It's sad.

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