If I had a nickel for every time I've heard someone say "oh, no, I won't shop at Walmart, they're right-wing; I shop at Target" I'd have a nice little pile of nickels. Sigh. I'm sure Fred Meyer and Sears are full of crap too.
I didn't shop at Target much anyway, but have stopped altogether as a result of their support for anti-gay politics (and I'm straight). Anyone know if Fred Meyer has a record one way or the other? Not really the same as Target, but I do a fair bit of shopping there.
We wanted to buy another plain wooden chair for our place after Christmas, and Target was the de facto go-to spot, but what Fnarf said... it's to the point that we'd have to build it ourselves from a tree we cut down in the woods. But corporations are people, so I shouldn't get too uppity. It would be un-American to impugn on their rights.
Thankfully there are no Targets near enough to entice me. They're opening one a block away next year, so I may wind up tempted to stray from all the little shops that do so much for our downtown, but I'll cross that ethical bridge when I come to it.
For day-to-day stuff here, the only choices are Target and Walmart. There is a Kmart about 50 miles away, but I'm not going to drive that when I just need a larger Rubbermaid container.
The best I can do is to promise to offset some fraction of the money I spend at Target that might go to anti-gay candidates or organizations with contributions to pro-gay causes. And I'll do it right now with a donation to a local organization that works with LGBTQ youth to make up for the photo frames I just bought on my lunch hour.
Um, I don't think I've ever before agreed with TheMisanthrope, but I find myself doing so today.
I won't argue that it makes it OK - that's for individual consumers to decide for themselves - but I do think it's expected that corporations will favor the politicians who want to let those corporations act without interference.
Target does think it can have its conservative politicians and your gay dollars, because it thinks the two are unrelated.
This is so annoying, I love Target, and there's one 8 minutes away from me. Why can't they be less homophobic?? I guess I'm stuck with Big Lots or driving half an hour to Wal Mart, what a pain.
I live in an urban area where chain stores have been nervous about investing. So I had a ton of local places to choose from when I did my holiday shopping on "Small Business Saturday" this year (if you haven't heard of it, it was a new thing being promoted this year on the day after Black Friday). I also hit up some local craft fairs, and did some online shopping through the National Green Pages. http://www.greenamerica.org/pubs/greenpa…
However, I know what it's like when most of the brick-and-mortar options you have for day-to-day shopping are chains. In the rural Maryland county where I grew up, I saw it turn into disgusting suburban sprawl and a lot of locally-owned businesses were killed off. Many of my friends still live there.
But even there, in the county seat, the surviving local businesses formed a main street association and are still limping along. There's an organic food store that offers bottles from a local wine-making collective, a family-owned local grocery chain with conventional goods, a hardware store, a bike shop, several antique and secondhand stores, a jewelry store, a plant nursery, a charming ice-cream shop that sells gift certificates, and an outdoor market where the Amish come to sell furniture and quilts. You definitely have to work harder to find what you want, can't just swing by Target at 9 at night for some impulse shopping...but if you're trying to save money, declutter your house, and get away from commercialism, sometimes it makes sense to forgo several particleboard purchases and save up for one handmade or sturdy vintage item you truly love. Or, you can avoid shopping for a while and make a list of what you truly need, then visit your favorite city mouse for a day of shopping a couple times of year! At least that's what some of my friends do :-)
Watch target grow over the years. Video takes about 1 minute. Hold on through the first 15 seconds during the slow growth. http://projects.flowingdata.com/target/
I'm just tryin to say, it's not like walmart and target are tying your hands and stealing your paycheque. If you find them morally unacceptable businesses, try to do your shopping elsewhere IE online. Etsy or some shit, whatever floats your boat.
Never woulda thunk it.
The best I can do is to promise to offset some fraction of the money I spend at Target that might go to anti-gay candidates or organizations with contributions to pro-gay causes. And I'll do it right now with a donation to a local organization that works with LGBTQ youth to make up for the photo frames I just bought on my lunch hour.
I won't argue that it makes it OK - that's for individual consumers to decide for themselves - but I do think it's expected that corporations will favor the politicians who want to let those corporations act without interference.
Target does think it can have its conservative politicians and your gay dollars, because it thinks the two are unrelated.
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However, I know what it's like when most of the brick-and-mortar options you have for day-to-day shopping are chains. In the rural Maryland county where I grew up, I saw it turn into disgusting suburban sprawl and a lot of locally-owned businesses were killed off. Many of my friends still live there.
But even there, in the county seat, the surviving local businesses formed a main street association and are still limping along. There's an organic food store that offers bottles from a local wine-making collective, a family-owned local grocery chain with conventional goods, a hardware store, a bike shop, several antique and secondhand stores, a jewelry store, a plant nursery, a charming ice-cream shop that sells gift certificates, and an outdoor market where the Amish come to sell furniture and quilts. You definitely have to work harder to find what you want, can't just swing by Target at 9 at night for some impulse shopping...but if you're trying to save money, declutter your house, and get away from commercialism, sometimes it makes sense to forgo several particleboard purchases and save up for one handmade or sturdy vintage item you truly love. Or, you can avoid shopping for a while and make a list of what you truly need, then visit your favorite city mouse for a day of shopping a couple times of year! At least that's what some of my friends do :-)
What about online?
merry xmas all