Elton John, accompanied by his longtime partner, David Furnish, had some choice words about California's Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage that passed on Nov. 4.
In December 2005, John and Furnish tied the knot in a civil partnership ceremony in Windsor, England. But, clarified the singer, "We're not married. Let's get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage."
"I don't want to be married. I'm very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership," John says. "The word 'marriage,' I think, puts a lot of people off.
"You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships."
I knew about his thinking civil unions get rights quicker than insisting on marriage (hello Washington!), and his fondness for fat druggies, but I was wondering if by "hypocrite" Grant heard he'd spoken out against gay parenting or something.
In France, straights are choosing civil unions over marriage:
Some are divorced and disenchanted with marriage; others are young couples ideologically opposed to marriage, but eager to lighten their tax burdens. Many are lovers not quite ready for old-fashioned matrimony.
Whatever their reasons, and they vary widely, French couples are increasingly shunning traditional marriages and opting instead for civil unions, to the point that there are now two civil unions for every three marriages.
i know someone who attended that wedding ( he's good friends with rush...i know , right ?) , a fairly well know christian conservative. he indicated that it was elton's presence as #8 has indicated my friend told me that rush is 'very accepting' of the gays and also seems to support civil unions and that rush. rush and elton are friends - elton didn't do it for the money. in part it was the wedding that my friend rethink his stance on the subject. he is not from california so it's anybody's guess how he would have voted had he an opportunity to do so.
but still fuxk 'em all. if marriage is just a word attached to rights, then what's the problem with the word again ?
@14, I've heard that once you start going to 12-step meetings like both those guys did, there's no limit to the unlikeliness of the friendships you wind up with.
@16: Well sure, since you didn't provide any sort of evidence to support your claim I reaize I could go off and start looking to clear Rush's good name myself, but I have about 5 trillion better things to do, so I'm interested in what your basing that claim off of, if anything. But to your question of degree, it's a pretty easy litmus test for me. Either you think gays deserve full equality, or you don't. It really doesn't matter to me how far a person is over that line, if they're over that line they're a bigot. Being able to name worse people isn't a defense, if it was they'd teach Godwin's Law in law school.
UNPAID COMMENTER @11, exactly. "The leader" made Grant give up his computer and passwords and has been posting as him every since. A modern day bad seed.
@23 Hey now, I'm open to friendships with people, just not people who believe they're powerless over their own actions and abdicate all responsibility to a higher power. Those peeps get stuck in the acquaintance-zone. Still leaves me a good 10% or so of the population to befriend.
OuterCow, I wasn't thinking you were down on friendships - I was just reminded by your comment how they're hardly risk free either. People I befriend can do the damnedest things decades after they've passed whatever my litmus test may have been to let them in at first.
Here we are decades later - will I just keep yelling at their fuckups and stay friends, or stop returning their calls? Do I even want friends who are too darn different from me? Who do me no social favors, embarrass me?
Not saying I have a grip on this in my own life, at all, just got reminded how friendship carries risks too, no less than addiction or getting clear of it however you can.
In France, straights are choosing civil unions over marriage:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/world/…
but still fuxk 'em all. if marriage is just a word attached to rights, then what's the problem with the word again ?
@13 If Elton didn't do it for the money because they are actually friends, then my opinion of him would drop even further. Limbaugh is human garbage.
You give me back my shoe, Leroy!
http://vimeo.com/4749536
@21, what a wonderful short that is. Chills, glorious chills.
Here we are decades later - will I just keep yelling at their fuckups and stay friends, or stop returning their calls? Do I even want friends who are too darn different from me? Who do me no social favors, embarrass me?
Not saying I have a grip on this in my own life, at all, just got reminded how friendship carries risks too, no less than addiction or getting clear of it however you can.