Film/TV Jan 6, 2011 at 1:49 pm

Today in Douchebags

Dan Savage
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On the bright side, if we have to go to the trouble of mining Facebook fan pages to find things to annoy us....
gloomy gus on January 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM Report this
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Well, then, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. Serial killers = totally cool. Gays = sickening.
Gloria on January 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM Report this
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In their defense, Six Feet Under does totally suck.
craftj2 on January 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM Report this
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that parents named their daughter "Sheelagh" is the real travesty here.
AmyC on January 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM Report this
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I've always been a bit weirded out by the sister/wife thing too. More so than boys kissing. I wonder if dexter's sister/michaels wife talks dirty out of the side of her mouth.
on January 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM Report this
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THIS is exactly why I will never be a twitter fan. I can barely remember to log in to facebook once a month or so, but I never post anything on there.
despicable me on January 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM Report this
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Does heterosexual kissing trigger feelings of repulsion amongst homosexuals? Or does it just work the one direction?
cliche on January 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM Report this
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@2: Well, yeah. :-P Then again, since the objection to same-sex fucking is at least nominally (maybe actually? Hard to say, not much in the Bible, especially since "gay"-as-identity didn't exist when any of it was written; there's just the stuff about lying with man as with woman, which is ambiguous at best) religious, it is odd that the whole plays-a-serial-killer thing is okay but plays-a-gay-man isn't (though the way Dexter operates is pretty-well in line with eye-for-an-eye).

This is a glorious intersection of homophobia and over-identifying actors with characters. So many different kinds of stupid: it's making my brain hurt. C.M. Hall is great; they got that right at least. Should we go gay-up the Dexter fan page now?
John Horstman on January 6, 2011 at 2:04 PM Report this
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I hate people who refer to being gay as "politics".
very bad homo on January 6, 2011 at 2:08 PM Report this
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people are allowed to think it's gross to see guys kissing. i personally am grossed out by fat people kissing, but I still think they should be allowed to marry, legally speaking.
drivel on January 6, 2011 at 2:08 PM Report this
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Danielle Fitzgerald sounds like a distillation of infuriating asshole: "I'm not a homophobe; you people just make me sick." Fuck right off.

Towanda on January 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM Report this
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Dexter is a paean to murder and hate. Hardly surprising to find haters among its fans.
Steve Dorner on January 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM Report this
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The permalink for those who wish to participate: http://www.facebook.com/danielly4af/post…
on January 6, 2011 at 2:17 PM Report this
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@10 - Good point and I totally agree. So maybe gays wouldn't find guy-girl kissing reflexively off-putting for the same reason heterosexuals don't. There will be one participant who is a potential sexual partner. So by this incredible logic, watching homosexual kissing is twice as exciting for gays!
cliche on January 6, 2011 at 2:18 PM Report this
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I have kind of the opposite problem...can be hard to see Michael C. Hall as anyone other than David Fisher. Never got into Dexter, though.
a cup of coffee on January 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM Report this
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This Nellie Trust character has a click to send issue.
heywhatsit!? on January 6, 2011 at 2:22 PM Report this
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@10, the fact that you have douchey instincts re: fat people doesn't justify others' douchey instincts re: gay people.
mai naim hear on January 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM Report this
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And here I was thinking how it's going to be weird if I ever go back and rewatch Six Feet Under (which I adore) now that I've seen Michael C. Hall go from sweet, uptight, doormat David to cool-as-a-cucumber killer Dexter. MCH is a damn fine actor; those two characters couldn't be more different. But the last thing I would give a shit about is either character's sexuality. Stupid bigots. :(
JenV on January 6, 2011 at 2:25 PM Report this
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I, for one, totally lose interest in hot actors once I find out they're straight.

GROSS!
boxofbirds on January 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM Report this
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So it's totally cool to watch him bloodily butcher someone, but it's sickening to watch him kiss someone. OK, well, *that* makes perfect sense.

Gawd, I'm glad I'm not 17 anymore.
Geni on January 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM Report this
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I first saw Michael C. Hall as the Emcee in Cabaret when it was in Studio 54. You know, the one that started out with Alan Cumming. I didn't recognize him for the first few episodes of Six Feet Under, because he was playing such a different character. But then I realized why I kept expecting him to break loose.
Monty on January 6, 2011 at 2:36 PM Report this
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@21: I wonder if it has to do with the suspension of disbelief. We KNOW he's not killing someone, but we know he IS kissing someone.
Fake homicide=OK
Real homokiss (even if acted)=squidgy feelings
Cracker Jack on January 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM Report this
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@14: Maybe that explains the straight male excitement over lesbians? I'm a straight woman and I find two guys kissing to be pretty hot, not more than a guy and girl kissing, but more than two women kissing which does nothing for me. Not disgusted by it, depending on the couple I'll probably see it as a sweet show of affection, just not a turn on.

That is what I don't get by people who feel "disgusted" by same sex couple kissing. They're showing affection for each other, one of the most wonderful parts of human nature there is. What is disgusting about that?
Noadi on January 6, 2011 at 2:38 PM Report this
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@15 it's a public fan page that anyone can view. The idea that the names should be blurred seems silly to me as they 1) choose to put their real names on facebook and 2) choose to post mildly bigoted comments on a public site. If it were private emails or even wall posts between friends that only people with access/relationships with the parties involved could see I would agree that netiqute calls for a blurring of the names. Just not with this set of conditions.
Painy on January 6, 2011 at 2:38 PM Report this
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oh lovely...the dexter comment is now gone. And Danielle has removed her account (or at least blocked it from me)
Akbar Fazil on January 6, 2011 at 2:48 PM Report this
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@18 I think a lot of times people conflate "gross" with "it doesn't turn me on." We put way too much importance on people's personal sexual desires and attractions, esp men's and esp when they fit the gender binary hetero white standard of sexuality, and forget that other people's personal sex lives are none of their goddamn business and are not on display for their approval.
kersy on January 6, 2011 at 2:52 PM Report this
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Are you sure she didn't just mean that she fantasizes about sleeping him and if he's gay then it kills that fantasy..? Doesn't mean she's hating on gay people.
on January 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM Report this
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@27 The comment is still there, I believe it's disappearance is more a function of her having blocked you than anything else.
BrechtianDinnerTheater on January 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM Report this
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Leave it to bigoted simpletons to totally miss the fact that the Dexter character is a sexually ambiguous psychopath mimicking his ideas of normal human behavior to inconspicuously fit it among them.

Well, at least he's not gay.

facepalm.jpg

Why can't 10,000 homophobes in Arkansas mysteriously drop dead?
on January 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM Report this
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I love the final comment there about Michael's wife being his sister on Dexter.

Also, try watching that episode of 6 Feet Under where meek and frightened David gets carjacked by that meth kid after getting used to him as the badass he is in Dexter. I think my brain broke.
ObeyTheFist on January 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM Report this
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@26 "Danielle's incessant nervous tittering (Lol, lol, lol) makes her seem more like a youthful, ignorant person than a bigoted, hateful person."

Right. Which explains this.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=36…
emd on January 6, 2011 at 3:08 PM Report this
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@26 "Danielle's incessant nervous tittering (Lol, lol, lol) makes her seem more like a youthful, ignorant person than a bigoted, hateful person."

Which completely explains this.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=36…
emd on January 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM Report this
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Youthful, ignorant. And (not surprisingly) from Spanaway:
http://www.myspace.com/dblondechic1987
Akbar Fazil on January 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM Report this
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I don't know. Seeing MCH make out with the Pope or Larry Craig could ruin Dexter for me.
beccoid on January 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM Report this
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I was less surprised by the homophobic stupidity than the fact that people still actually care about Six Feet Under, or actually ever cared about it.
on January 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM Report this
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Check out the comments here for more from Danielle who as mentioned before is probably not a bigot..

http://www.myspace.com/kendallkoester/bl…
emd on January 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM Report this
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@35, her face alone explains it all. That is what ugly teabaggers looked like when they were young. 23 and that mouth is already horribly downturned. Blank eyes. Sad.
Tingleyfeeln on January 6, 2011 at 4:13 PM Report this
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People just aren't used to seeing gay people kiss. I consider myself a strong queer ally and my sister is gay, but I've never seen her kiss her girlfriend. If I did it would make me feel odd. Just because I'm not used to it.

I vote for more gay-positive media on mainstream television. Get some of the Glee fags to make out, you know?
Rach3l on January 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM Report this
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Oh and @39, you're being a dick. If you read her myspace page, you would see that she's been living on her own since age 17. Which is a far cry from the "typical" person today who lives with or depends upon their parents in one form or another until age 25. It's fair to assume that might age someone a little prematurely.
Rach3l on January 6, 2011 at 4:38 PM Report this
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aged her prematurely, but it sure didn't give her a clue that her views are ignorant.
Not that I disagree with you that I'm being a dick!
Tingleyfeeln on January 6, 2011 at 5:33 PM Report this
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You know how Dan likes to claim that he doesn't care if individual people accept gays as long as gays have equal rights?

And then he posts something like this.

Does this prove he's a liar or merely a hack?
keshmeshi on January 6, 2011 at 5:44 PM Report this
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The most disturbing parts of 6 Feet Under was when Brenda was sleeping around on Nathan!
David and Charles played awesome roles as two people really in love. More believable than most characters/actors.
Although I can't remember if Charles banged that hot singer chick.
LordHumongous on January 6, 2011 at 7:19 PM Report this
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Cadillac problems, Dan.
venomlash on January 6, 2011 at 8:44 PM Report this
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@37: "I was less surprised by the homophobic stupidity than the fact that people still actually care about Six Feet Under, or actually ever cared about it. "

Fuck off, it was a great show, still is.

I'm more disturbed that he fucked his co-star this season (I call her BOTOX SURPRISEFACE) and that her horrible acting caused his real-life divorce :( oh well, Dexter.
on January 6, 2011 at 8:50 PM Report this
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I can understand having your perceptions of a character being affected by another role that the same actor has, such as in the scenario ObeyTheFist (that a Zim reference, by the way?) mentioned @32, but that does not excuse the accompanying douchebaggery.
Knat on January 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM Report this
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Stop freaking out and start watching Torchwood already.
MichelleZB on January 7, 2011 at 12:26 AM Report this
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Wasn't the "pretty good show" Six Feet Under created by a gay person? And not one of those decent quiet gays who don't flaunt it, but by one of those outspoken gays?

@49 Yay, Torchwood!
puddles on January 7, 2011 at 1:10 AM Report this
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Six Feet Under was one of the best shows ever! Michael C. Hall is an amazing actor, so what if he played a gay character in a loving relationship with keith. If you don't want to watch two men kissing...don't watch. Get over yourselves!!!!
butterfly on January 7, 2011 at 2:32 AM Report this
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#45: Keith Charles *did* bang the hot singer chick, at her insistence, then she let him go from her tour.
sread1701 on January 7, 2011 at 5:49 AM Report this
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But I was waiting for him to hook up with Bobby Cannavale, the other security guard on the tour.
sread1701 on January 7, 2011 at 5:50 AM Report this
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Six Feet Under was miles and miles better than Dexter! Sure Dexter's plot twists are more exciting but the dialogue is hardly sufferable (I mean seriously, it's the fifth season. How many times do we need Dexter's voice over tell us "This could all be easier if I were just like everyone else. But I'm not like everyone else-- I'm a MONSTER") and MCH's acting ability is head and shoulders above the other actors on the show. David FTW.

@50 Alan Ball was the creator; not sure if he is gay or not. He is the same guy who did American Beauty and True Blood.
on January 7, 2011 at 9:40 AM Report this
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They are separated now, so "Dexter" is no longer banging his "sister". Love Dexter, loved Six Feet Under, who gives a shit about what this stupid girl thinks. She is so not worth any of our time.
sher-bear on January 7, 2011 at 12:41 PM Report this
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This girl is dumb and hopefully she'll grow up and figure out that gay isn't icky. Sidenote: I just finished watching Six Feet Under through netflix. I was looking for a new old show to catch up on and someone suggested Dexter, but I think its much too hard to forget Michael C. Hall as David.
lirael182 on January 8, 2011 at 7:07 PM Report this
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Yeah, I think her sentiment is misguided. But I also don't give a fuck beyond this lame post. Wow, nice cyberstalking and hating on the haters. You've shown 'em how to improve the discourse.
dirac on January 8, 2011 at 11:40 PM Report this
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@57: Exactly!

@35: Quit cyberstalking her! You are only making yourselves look just as bad as her.

Some of you guys really need to pick your battles.
Joy14713 on January 9, 2011 at 12:06 AM Report this

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