And that, right there, is why people shouldn't be able to go out and buy a gun on a whim. Because if YOU can, so can batshit crazy motherfuckers like that.
You know, I look at his picture, and think about the fact that I, too, have a son who was born in 1988. He's just a kid, acting more like 17 most of the time, and yet has had his dark, teenage, angsty Marilyn Manson-loving moments back in high school, like a lot of kids do. You wonder about the best way to do things with them...this kid has parents somewhere who must be wondering what the hell happened. What if that were your kid? This whole thing is just so damn sad.
@16, As someone who was one of those kids you're describing - and one who was such during the Columbine shitstorm - I think that it would be nice if public education didn't more often than not play out like a Lord of the Flies type prison system in which kids are commodities to be endured, exploited, and abused by both their peers and the rest of the system. And then the kids become adults, and little changes.
@16, @19: I hear you loud and clear, like a knife to the heart. I could have been this boy too, thirty years ago and more. I went into some dark places and took forever to get out of them. People always say "I just don't understand how a person could do that", but I DO understand. The terror and rage of the damned is everywhere around us. I wasn't as far gone as this boy but I could have been, I could have been. So could a number of people around me.
How many gun shops or sports supply stores have a "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" rule? Because...Jesus, man. If I saw that face across a counter, I don't think I'd wanna sell him anything but antipsychotics.
Didja read his backwards comment @10, gus? Seems he doesn't like being called a "talentless hipster" by the snarky slogettes, and his slog profile directs you to a MySpace page for Gandhi Jones...*grin*
@23, please realize it sounds like you're advocating a vengeful miscarriage of justice for someone who is classically insane, and very likely incompetent to stand trial.
Does it deserved to be locked up? Yes. But not executed, and certainly not thrown in with a general prison population where it will almost certainly be murdered.
See that smile on his face? Well, a longtime friend of the shooter says:
"I think the reason he did it was mainly to just promote chaos. He wanted the media to freak out about this whole thing. He wanted exactly what's happening. He wants all of that."
This dude isn't conservative or liberal. He's CRAZY. The real tragedy here is that yet another mentally unstable person fell through the cracks, ignored by society, until it was too late. America needs to take a hard long look at how it treats the mentally ill.
Rach3l, I read your link, thanks, his parents sound devastated, of course. Interesting, too, they they were both so quiet and reserved that even their long-time neighbour didn't learn their last name until he heard it on the news. They were both crying, and the father is described as "worshipping his son." Can't even begin to imagine. In addition to knowing what he did, they've just lost their only child as well.
@37: Agree, we need to look at ways to better-support and better-integrate as functional members of society people with mental illness that is not completely treatable/curable.
@37 He might be crazy, but he's still smart. Did you see @36? He's getting exactly what he wanted, that's why he looks so satisfied. Some crazy people can't even take care of themselves. Some crazy people not only can, but can plan out and enact the fucked up schemes in their heads - like the Fort Hood shooter. The two of them both are terrorists, mass murderers, and our sympathy for them should be limited by a sense of self-preservation.
We have to be able to make the distinction between kinds of crazy. I've known crazy people who only hurt themselves. Do you think there's some way that we could catch Jared Loughner's kind of pathology before it turns into a massacre? He was smart enough to hide how deep it went. Do you think anything could have stopped him? I don't.
@27- Unlike most theisms, atheists (and agnostics and secular humanists, and etc...) don't actually claim that their makes you moral. Nope, it's just a statement about the existence of the supernatural. We have to create morality on our own, we just don't pretend some supernatural agent told us what to do.
@41 unfortunately, there were big red flags but his parents were probably in denial (and probably haven't been in his bedroom in years, that doesn't help either). How much of an acting-out dickhole do you have to be to get kicked out of a community college? Pretty huge.
This just makes me sad. I suppose it would do the same for anyone having a family member with inadequately treated mental illness.
That's a grin that would make even the most serene Buddhist monk want to punch his lights out.
How much violence arises out of hopelessness?
now matter how you try
He sure as hell doesn't look 22, does he?
Exactly what you said. Took the words right out of my mouth.
Does it deserved to be locked up? Yes. But not executed, and certainly not thrown in with a general prison population where it will almost certainly be murdered.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/…
"I think the reason he did it was mainly to just promote chaos. He wanted the media to freak out about this whole thing. He wanted exactly what's happening. He wants all of that."
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/…
BTW I've read that this pic is not technically a mugshot but that actual mugshot might be released soon
We have to be able to make the distinction between kinds of crazy. I've known crazy people who only hurt themselves. Do you think there's some way that we could catch Jared Loughner's kind of pathology before it turns into a massacre? He was smart enough to hide how deep it went. Do you think anything could have stopped him? I don't.
Sitting in a bunker,
Here behind my wall,
Waiting for the worms to come!