News Jan 17, 2011 at 2:01 pm

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Wait, how many times a day does this guy get to post?
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Sweet Jesus...4 more days??????
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Of course there's always the option to ignore the demagoguery and create and foster a "higher culture of civility." I wonder why many Americans are too apathetic to do that, and how to find the few Americans who are fostering a higher culture to join and support them.
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The Strangercrombie rules say "two posts a day maximum". Canuck, that's eight posts to come. Eight. Maximum. Let's have a running countdown.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Speci…
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It was a digestable portion. For that, I give thanks.
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gus, I say we have to do a shot every time he posts, should help to pass the time...
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Deal. Mine will be espresso, since this fellow seems to post during daylight hours. (I understand you and Kim in Portland would never let that stop you....)
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Too true, gus, if I can't have vodka in my cheerios, it really isn't worth getting out of bed....but, even I have to attempt propriety on occasion, so I will join you in espresso shots...well, maybe espresso/Baileys...
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Had I won that auction I had a long series of fart jokes planned. C'est la vis.
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How much do we have to donate to get you to stop posting?
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@DD, did your daughter do this to take the stress out of the dinner hour?
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Awesome, so calls for civility can be ignored and mocked so long as there exist demagogues on either side. Jesus said "Turn the other cheek." He did not say scream louder and longer than the other guy until your side wins.

Chill. Out. And. Grow. Some. Empathy. For. Your. Fellow. Man.

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Yawn.
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Gus,
Tis true that a fine dram of bourbon and an espresso is a brilliant way to start a morning. And, I consider it the breakfast of champions if I have a freshly baked baguette to round out the meal (that means I must get up and bake it, though), so it's only a weekend thang. I am a hedonist, that is true, but I know when to maintain propriety and act the good girl. Ha!

Canuck,
My favourite up to no damn good song, to enjoy with your espresso and Baileys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQgraAlg_…

Cheers!
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Oh come on, you guys. A little civility here. Mr. Dale is a damn sight more interesting than Charles Mudede.
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@16:

Civility? For the guy who just mocked civility?

Yeah, I'll get right on that.

And sorry, I'll take someone who's read Wittgenstein in depth over someone whose favorite philosopher is Glenn Beck any day of the week.
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In my defense, I hadn't read his earlier post. Although in fairness, I'm not sure anyone else did either.

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Um, also, if you want to know more about what makes a demagogue from someone who actually understand rhetoric: http://www.drw.utexas.edu/roberts-miller…
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That is a very cool song, Kim! And luckily, "up to no good" is my middle name, along with "stop setting a bad example for the children," so that will do quite nicely. BTW, have you heard Map of Tasmania by Amanda Palmer yet? It is 9 shades of fabulous, and has taken up residence on my iPod...

http://www.amandapalmer.net/afp/

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And sorry, I'll take someone who's read Wittgenstein in depth over someone whose favorite philosopher is Glenn Beck any day of the week.

Is this what it's come to? There's no space on the continuum between Glenn Beck and Al Sharpton? How depressing.
I will say this for Beck; at least he doesn't have two anti-Jewish pogroms and four false rape accusations to his discredit. But I'll defer to your wisdom as to who's beyond the pale.
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Thank you, Canuck. Indeed, 9 shades of fabulous! Great for moving, now that I've put my bunda back into the dance studio! Making music, playing music, shaking it to the music is always, always on the agenda.

Cheers!
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@15 Dale and Mundede both need to learn that when something is hard to understand most of the time it's not because it's deep and complex, it's because it's poorly written.
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@20 Pretty sure that wasn't at all trstr's point, but anywho... I'm not a particular fan of Sharpton, not familiar with his past, but he actually organized 2 slaughters of Jews? Wow.
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What scares me more is the prospect of how horrific a thing Mr Dale's daughter obviously must be planning, given the defence she is plainly putting into place:

'You see my client before you as a monster...and there is little we can say about that but to point the finger back toward the man who raised her, the man responsible for this!' [WAVES COLLECTED POSTS IN AIR, BARES THE DAUGHTER'S BREASTS AS HYPEREIDES DID PHRYNE'S IF HE THINKS IT WILL HELP]

Judge: What chance did she have? Not guilty! [BANG]
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@20:

I wasn't aware that Charles Mudede had two anti-Jewish pogroms to his belt. I know he's a busy guy, but still...

(PS: You might want to look into Beck's anti-semitism while you're shrieking.)
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Al Sharpton sounds very contrite in the article posted. So he wins over Glenn Beck on that account.

I'm nowhere near a fan of Sharpton, but the Crown Heights Riots were not a pogrom. A Jew (white) run ambulance chose to treat an uninjured Jew (white) adult before a severely injured South American child who later died.

Sharpton said some ugly things, and he was and maybe is an anti-Semite, but accusing him of leading a pogrom is as wrong as Sarah Palin accusing Obama of convening death panels to kill grandma.

Wait, I should come up with an example from the left of such grievous lies told for the sole purpose of inciting violence against their political enemies, but there aren't any.
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A Jew (white) run ambulance chose to treat an uninjured Jew (white) adult before a severely injured South American child who later died.

The driver of the vehicle that struck the children was evacuated because the immediate response of four bystanders was to drag him from his car and beat him, according to the first EMS who were three minutes in arriving--the recourse to violence was virtually immediate, in other words. This was under instructions from city police and EMS; a crowd of black youths had already gathered, chanting anti-Semitic slogans.

Getting him out of there might have saved his life and prevented a riot. Much is made of the "apartheid ambulance" (Sharpton's phrase)--a private ambulance service funded by CH's Lubavitch community. The fact is by providing their own services they free up public services for others. A second Hatzolah ambulance came to the aid of one of victims, Angela Cato, who died later in hospital. The Wikipedia article on the subject is capable and fair.

You should find a more civilized phrase than "Jew run ambulance", by the way. "Jew" as an adjective is a derogation. It's "Jewish". Offered in a spirit of comity.
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Al Sharpton shows Sarah how it's done:

"My words were immediately raised in the media. My initial response was to defend the fact that I had never condoned such violence, and never would. But the fact is, if I in any way contributed to the climate - which was clearly more volatile than I had thought - I had to be more careful and deliberate in my public language rather than sharpen my defenses.

As we sort out what happened in Tucson, we must resist the temptation to merely cast blame, and we all must be more aware of the weakness of the idea that we do not somehow contribute to the vitriolic atmosphere. Everyone must be alert. Much as I went over the line years ago, those with public voices must ensure that their messages cannot be misconstrued as calling for a heinous act." (Sharpton, Washington Post).

I also thought he was reasonable on Meet the Press on Sunday.
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@19 I wonder if I can find that lego merkin on etsy.............
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@16: Stop talking to yourself!
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@27:

Oh, nevermind. I didn't realize that you were a fan of the white-supremacist hate sites American Renaissance (linked to from your blog) and VDare.

Slog, please, get this person off of this site.
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@27 - why are you still talking about Sharpton? Why are you holding a grudge about this incident? Do you think we follow Sharpton? Is it because of his race?

Please stop with the "but look at these blacks and leftists who also stoke racial tension and uncivil discourse!" line of argument. It's a straw man, doesn't further any sort of point, and distracts us from the meat of the matter. You sound butthurt, not reasonable.

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