It's all well and good some unionized Republicans are waking up but the rest of us still have to suffer with the results of ALL of the Republican and Tea Bagger voters who have voted in the most hateful, horrible group yet. Are there really no non-self-loathing female conservative voters? Because the GOP is destroying women's rights right before our eyes and there doesn't seem to be a peep from any females on the right having buyers remorse. I am thoroughly disgusted and really frightened by what's happening. The agenda of destroying Planned Parenthood, Head Start, NPR, PBS, Health Care Reform, the EPA, etc. is going to decimate our country and even if we can vote out all of these fuckers in the future, will there be any hope of resurrecting these programs/this funding? We're living in a full on Plutocracy/Oligarchy. As we watch the dictatorships in the Middle East fall all I can wonder is how soon will it be for America to become what it most despises?
Goldy, love pretty much all you do, but I think you're wrong on the idea of the national media not doing a good job around reporting this as a union-busting battle. It's actually been one of the things I've been most surprised and excited about around this whole thing as it's been unfolding, that I feel I consistently hear strong critiques and out-and-out rejections of the budget requiring this attack on collective bargaining, and info about things like the corporate tax breaks Walker put through which don't help the budget. It's also possible, though, that my media selection (NPR, PBS' Newshour, NY TImes, other things like Huffington Post and such) is pretty small. But I still think even these supposedly super-liberal outlets usually are pretty moderate (at least, compared to my general political leanings), and usually fail to adequately give voice to folks like those protesting enabling them to make their case fairly eloquently.
I think this has a lot to do with the Wisconsin protestors should be commended for actually getting their message/media shit together enough that they are making their case this effectively to so many people. This may actually be a result of the organizational strength/capacity of the unions.
I think the 14 Democrats leaving town also are doing a great job of bolstering this argument as well, and their circumstances really keep the story going. Finally, some friggin' backbone from Dems!
I suppose if I were to concede anything to your point, it would be that the media isn't doing a good job pointing out that 1) at this point, the unions have already offered up wages and benefits as negotiable, and are simply hanging on to maintain their rights to collectively bargain -- which would be a good way of showing that Walker is interested in more than just these particulars. And, 2) I also think that failing to ask Walker more pointedly and consistently why the unions that supported him in his election (police, firefighters, state troopers) are being exempted from this. After all, their pay and benefits affect the budget, too.
I don't understand union families voting for Democrats, let alone Republicans. This whole mess is Wall Streets fault, and the Dems have been the ones in charge the who passed faux banking reforming, haven't put a single one in jail (thanks for the meme, Oscars) agreed to continue the massive deficit causing Bush tax cuts which will invariably result in far less aid to the states, etc etc. Granted, the Republicans were vocal advocates for this evil program of expanding the wealth divide, but Democrats have been silent partners dating back to at least the passage of NAFTA. Fuck do I hate Democrats.
There are lots of union members with conservative political leanings; the only reason they joined a union in the first place was because of union shop provisions in the contracts their bargaining units have negotiated with management. If they weren't contractually obligated to tender dues & fees, believe me, they'd opt out in a New York second. If they knew more about Financial-Core options, they'd probably opt out even faster.
It'll happen, but there will be a bit of a wait.
I think this has a lot to do with the Wisconsin protestors should be commended for actually getting their message/media shit together enough that they are making their case this effectively to so many people. This may actually be a result of the organizational strength/capacity of the unions.
I think the 14 Democrats leaving town also are doing a great job of bolstering this argument as well, and their circumstances really keep the story going. Finally, some friggin' backbone from Dems!
I suppose if I were to concede anything to your point, it would be that the media isn't doing a good job pointing out that 1) at this point, the unions have already offered up wages and benefits as negotiable, and are simply hanging on to maintain their rights to collectively bargain -- which would be a good way of showing that Walker is interested in more than just these particulars. And, 2) I also think that failing to ask Walker more pointedly and consistently why the unions that supported him in his election (police, firefighters, state troopers) are being exempted from this. After all, their pay and benefits affect the budget, too.
*hilarious, mocking, laughter ensues*