So, I am neither a fan of Corporatania at all nor white supremacy...but how do you suppose we fellow humans handle that bitch for "acting funny?" She shouldn't be charged with a felony? For me it's proof that Reconstruction didn't last long enough.
Funny if you're not the poor, underpaid staff that has to stay and clean up the mess. And I've seen white people acting just as badly. But right wingers see only what they want to see.
She is behaving like an animal. If she was white it would be the same story. Sorry Charles but I think you are the one who can't see through the race here.
@1 - She was charged with a felony. Misdemeanor battery, felony criminal mischief with damage of more than $1,000, as well as disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
People I personally know don't act like that. But yes, I do see this behavior a lot in my neighborhood. And guess what, it ain't the Vietnamese kids. Shocking I know.
Funny? That is funny? Abusing the staff of a restaurant is not part the deal when you buy food, as much as some people seem the think. Sickening no matter what color ones skin is. Sheesh
@11 I know! I read it. I can't tell if Charles is being dismissive because she's black though or if he's read some crypto Nazi site that uses this as a prime example of black animal nature.
To quote Chris Rock, "Every time black people wanna go somewhere and have a good time, ignorant ass ni**as gotta fuck it up."
"I've seen white people acting just as badly"
Yes, but unfortunately neither crime stats nor quantity of youtube videos back you up.
Who said this is about race? The two Haitian teens adopted by my neighbors are the brightest, best behaved kids in my virtually all white, 'liberal' Seattle neighborhood. Ditto for the Ghanaian UW prof around the corner and his family. this is a cultural problem and some of us can see the difference.
@14 I'd love to know if Charles has ever worked in the service industry where workers are demeaned and abused on a nearly constant basis--if not by the corporation that treats their employment as a glorious response to benediction then by the entitled American consumer without any capacity for empathy (e.g. or maturity beyond a 4 year old in this case). Perhaps he has and doesn't remember what it's like to be treated like scum because you are 16 (or 45, I guess, nowadays) and can only get a job at McDs or Walmart.
Sing it dirac @19. My mom used to say a lot " everybody should live without running water for at least 2 weeks and work in a restaurant it makes one a better person". Man I am all peeved up this morning over this!
@22, I would go one step further than that. My partner often says (and I agree), "if you've never worked in food service, you should not be allowed to go out to eat."
You can tell the difference between people who have worked on the service side, and those who never have, by how they treat the staff. Both at a Burger King or at the Herb Farm.
I've never worked in food service, but I always tip 20 percent unless the waiter did just about everything wrong (and even then I tip 15 percent), and I always treat service workers with respect, even when they blatantly disrespect me. Working a shit job isn't a requirement for being well behaved.
Good Morning Charles,
There is nothing funny in that display of behavior at all. It was destructive and uncivilized. It's more an example of "mob" mentality than anything else. It was also clearly immodest for bikini clad women (they could be male and/or any other race/ethnicity) to walk into a restaurant. I'm not a prude but they can sport a blouse and shorts before entering an establishment that serves food especially if other patrons (families with children?) are there. I believe the phrase "no shirt, no shoes, no service" means something inside a restaurant. These young ladies' behavior was atrocious. It's appalling that authorities weren't anywhere in the vicinity anytime sooner.
As far as the white supremacist's angle or any other for that matter, I find it irrelevant. These people (humans) acted irresponsibly. I find their behavior insulting to all of humanity. That's the primary observation.
come on. funny? you've got to be kidding. this is straight out anti social behavior, manifested by ignorant persons who exact justice from causing chaos. if you live in seattle, you view this as you wish. but if you live in the south, well, it happens all the time. the rebellion of race against authority. just look at the jail populations. it continues...
Violent, rude to working people, self-centered, materialistic, homophobic, sexist, gun-loving.....wait, are we talking about Republicans or Afro-American urban culture?
Charles is a Marxist, they thrive on barbarism. Someone should trash The Stranger office and tag Charles after assaulting him as if he were Girl X, that would be funny,
Completely agree that moments like those are a human thing, not a black thing. However, to avoid being called a racist I typically refrain from commenting on any "humans acting funny" who aren't white like me.
Mudede's making an excellent point here. Racist stereotypes have a lot to do with confirmation bias. If you're expecting to see black people acting like morons, then you will take notice when you see one, and stick it under "black people acting like morons" in your mental "evidence" file, further reinforcing your expectations. White supremacist websites are full of confirmation bias. It's their stock in trade.
It also has a lot to do with "othering" (the opposite of identifying with someone). When you see someone acting like a moron, there's a natural tendency to find some way in which they're different from you in order to think of them as "other". To the people who think "huh, typical blacks" when you see this, what would you think if this was a white person? Probably, "typical white trash" or "typical southerners" or something like that. Right?
Also, having worked in the food service industry: psycho customers are only for a few minutes, but the hilarious anecdotes are forever. Strangely, in the end they're one of the things that KEEP you from losing your mind at a job like that.
"Racist stereotypes have a lot to do with confirmation bias."
It isn't racist stereotyping or confirmation bias to state that black males (4% of Seattle) commit half of all homicides in Seattle annually!
IT IS SIMPLY A FACT.
Nor is it racist stereotyping or confirmation bias to state that blacks commit a vastly disproportionate amount of homicide in New York City, according to the New York Times, at:
@47, @48: Crime rates correlate with poverty. Poverty correlates with race.
Your "facts" are meaningless without context or understanding. To look at these data points - which is what they are - in isolation is misleading. I assume you do so deliberately, in the service of your obvious racism.
No one will argue that rates of some crimes are higher among certain ethnic groups. What we will argue about is the reasons for this.
It's a complex question best left to adults, not racist pieces of shit like you.
@49 Well put. And why is (are) dipshit(s) @47 and 48 assuming that we're all white? And what conclusion are we supposed to draw from these "facts" exactly? The majority of violent crimes are committed by men; can I infer from that that women are somehow superior? Bah, I know there's probably no point in arguing with racist fuckwit trolls on a thread that's reached its expiry date, but I feel like these arguments need to be repeated ad nauseum if things are gonna change.
What 31 year-old woman doesn't go to FL for spring break though?
Does that make me a racist?
"I've seen white people acting just as badly"
Yes, but unfortunately neither crime stats nor quantity of youtube videos back you up.
Who said this is about race? The two Haitian teens adopted by my neighbors are the brightest, best behaved kids in my virtually all white, 'liberal' Seattle neighborhood. Ditto for the Ghanaian UW prof around the corner and his family. this is a cultural problem and some of us can see the difference.
You can tell the difference between people who have worked on the service side, and those who never have, by how they treat the staff. Both at a Burger King or at the Herb Farm.
It's funny how so many blacks vote democrat but behave like republicans, or at least like the republicans I hear Sloggers talk stereotype.
I've never worked in food service, but I always tip 20 percent unless the waiter did just about everything wrong (and even then I tip 15 percent), and I always treat service workers with respect, even when they blatantly disrespect me. Working a shit job isn't a requirement for being well behaved.
There is nothing funny in that display of behavior at all. It was destructive and uncivilized. It's more an example of "mob" mentality than anything else. It was also clearly immodest for bikini clad women (they could be male and/or any other race/ethnicity) to walk into a restaurant. I'm not a prude but they can sport a blouse and shorts before entering an establishment that serves food especially if other patrons (families with children?) are there. I believe the phrase "no shirt, no shoes, no service" means something inside a restaurant. These young ladies' behavior was atrocious. It's appalling that authorities weren't anywhere in the vicinity anytime sooner.
As far as the white supremacist's angle or any other for that matter, I find it irrelevant. These people (humans) acted irresponsibly. I find their behavior insulting to all of humanity. That's the primary observation.
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Also, Mutarutkwa.
@39: You know, trolling was a art until you came along.
Even dark* comedies have "ha...ha" moments. This does not.
*Har...pun...har...I did that for you basehead, you moron--wouldn't know marxism if it hit you on your thick forehead.
She deserves to be thrown in jail. What's wrong with people?
If it hadn't been for Charles's blog post title, I'm not sure I would have thought about them being black. Classless idiots come in all colors.
It also has a lot to do with "othering" (the opposite of identifying with someone). When you see someone acting like a moron, there's a natural tendency to find some way in which they're different from you in order to think of them as "other". To the people who think "huh, typical blacks" when you see this, what would you think if this was a white person? Probably, "typical white trash" or "typical southerners" or something like that. Right?
Also, having worked in the food service industry: psycho customers are only for a few minutes, but the hilarious anecdotes are forever. Strangely, in the end they're one of the things that KEEP you from losing your mind at a job like that.
It isn't racist stereotyping or confirmation bias to state that black males (4% of Seattle) commit half of all homicides in Seattle annually!
IT IS SIMPLY A FACT.
Nor is it racist stereotyping or confirmation bias to state that blacks commit a vastly disproportionate amount of homicide in New York City, according to the New York Times, at:
http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homici…
http://tinyurl.com/2cuevua
New York Times - New York City Interactive Homicide Map:
Blacks = 61% of the killers, 60% of the victims
Whites = 7% of the killers, 8% of the victims
To put it in the proper perspective:
Blacks = 26% of NYC population
Whites = 35% of NYC population
WAKE UP TO REALITY.
Your "facts" are meaningless without context or understanding. To look at these data points - which is what they are - in isolation is misleading. I assume you do so deliberately, in the service of your obvious racism.
No one will argue that rates of some crimes are higher among certain ethnic groups. What we will argue about is the reasons for this.
It's a complex question best left to adults, not racist pieces of shit like you.