McGinn Kicks Off Broadband Initiative in Pioneer Square

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But does Cliff Mass approve?
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Let me be the first to say ...

"10 mbps, 'half the speed of what you'd be able to get in your home.'"

WHO THE FUCK GETS 20 AT HOME?

ahem. sorry for shouting. but ... wow. happy if qwest almost delivers half of the 7 they charge for.
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Part of McGinn's "Broadband for Bums" campaign, Goldy?  

Where's the social justice aspect of this?
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@2: I get 22. Neener.
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I get 15mbit down 3mbit up for $65/month after taxes from Comcast on Capitol Hill (no promotions or other services).

Anyway, Goldy, who do I harass at City Hall to pay close attention to Utah's Utopia network? It is a perfect example of how to screw up city-funded wireless.

I am scared there is no one at City Hall who understands why nobody in Utah uses Utopia and can see Seattle making the same mistakes.
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@5, Well, apart from a couple neighborhood wireless systems, the city doesn't seem intent to go down that route. What we're talking about here is the city and other government entities making the initial modest investment to lay conduit when the street is already dug up for other purposes. That seems smart, as long as there is the effort and ability to leverage that investment.
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" the benefits of these investments"

"could prove to be a huge economic engine for Seattle."

"would lease out the conduit at cost."

I love it when Goldy goes all DLC on us and tries to use the language of 'business' to not sound like a socialist. It's like he's stuck in 1996.

"it could pay off huge dividends for the struggling Pioneer Square neighborhood."

How will it help the hobos?

So Goldy, will we still need to learn to speak 'South' Korean to keep up?
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10 mbps?

God, my house is wired for 100 GBps, and so are most of the buildings in Fremont and on the campus at the UW and FHCRC ...
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@2 but ... my pipe in is only 20 ... only in the labs can I get pure IPv6 running at 100 ... sigh.

Up speed is limited in most residential drops - we have higher up speeds on campus and in lab buildings, but it's expensive.
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Happy that he's finally delivering on the campaign promise (for once), but when that shit going to get to Capitol Hill. If it's anything like Light Rail, it will be 2021.
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@6 I guess the only problem I have with that is companies already have plenty of dark fiber at their disposal.

Five years ago Google was buying up thousands of miles of it. I'm sure other tech/telco juggernauts were in the same race. If they weren't laying their own; northern King County has tons of fiber hanging from the poles that was laid over the last few years.

Why can't we just use what is already there and privately owned? Oh, I know why... because it's privately owned.

And what makes us think we can compete with them and actually turn a profit?
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"he's finally delivering on the campaign promise (for once)"

Yes, McGinn's squatting down and laying a few feet of cable in Pioneer Square; you can see hobos doing that ANY DAY in da' Square, and they even use toilet paper afterwards. What a campaign promise delivery.
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@8 "my house is wired for 100 GBps, and so are most of the buildings in Fremont ..."

Are you sure? 100 Giga-Bytes per second? That's terabit speed. 100Gbps is still 20 years off, so 100 GBps ...
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wow - FOUR blocks - fuckin A - at this rate we'll have both fiber optic broadband AND a solution to the viaduct problem in, say, a thousand years... but the big question is of course, do we get to vote on fiber optic? - I sure hope so - at least five or six times!

Man, if this is progress we are fucking doomed.
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Undead Labs = zombies = hurrah = however, I wish their zombie MMO wasn't going to be only on console. Some of us prefer MMO-type things on PC.
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@14,

It's progress for these four blocks of Pioneer Square that could desperately use a boost in occupancy. Getting more Undead Labs like businesses in the neighborhood, and it's great for all the surrounding businesses. Creates a lunch crowd, and all that.

You gotta start somewhere.
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@13, you've obviously forgotten Rule #1 of Slog: Will in Seattle is full of shit. All the time.
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I get about 30Mbps from Comcast on Capitol Hill.
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As much as it would be great to have fiber for residential use. Qwest (soon to be CenturyTel) will sue in a heart beat, which they did once already and threaten to do again (under Nickels).

Seattle will NEVER be able to wire themselves for Fiber, even if it passes a local vote, raising the sales tax (with a sunset clause) to pay for it.
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SWEET JESUS. Bring those tubes to the CD! I pay for 6-7 mbit (ha), and just speed tested at 1.96 Mbps down, .98 Mbps up. That's normal here in Judkins Park. Sometimes I make it up over 4 (whoohoo).

What are y'all with the 10s and 20s actually speed testing at? (Residential only, please, and state your neighborhood. Thx.)
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"Bring those tubes to the CD"

@20 how much bandwidth do you need to upload to your myspace page?
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It is decades past time to get serious about broadband in Seattle. I'm in my office in the heart of downtown (4th & union)... our choices are crappy DSL or pay Comcast $15000 to wire the building. This is supposed to be a high-tech city...
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YES YES YES, we need competition from the Speakeasies, the Qwests, the Broadstripes, and the Comcasts that've been screwing the area for ages. People in the suburbs can get fiber, but tech-dominated Seattle can't?
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@13, Will has a CAT6 cable on his cable router, which in his mind is "a hunnert gigabytes". Will doesn't know the difference between bit and byte, or between mega and giga, which is why he thinks his house is wired faster than his computer's memory bus.
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This is like standing in front of a forest fire, taking a piss and then congratulating yourself on stopping the forest fire. Seriously, this is the best Seattle could do as a mayor?!?!?
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JonnonN,

Should you be interested, there are Internet technology services available to increase your office Internet speed. I am Telecom consulting, who work in the Industry for 15 yrs. Please contact to discuss more in detail.

Best Regards,
Paul W.
paulw@advanced.com