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1
Words in papers, words in books
Words on tv, words for crooks
Words of comfort, words of peace
Words to make the fighting cease

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDjW5aHo…
2
I disagree. The protests can languish for all they care. They live in warm mansions and penthouses. In fact, as time stretchs on, there's more room for mischief and violence. Just the excuse they need to crack heads. And if the movement does not have a political goal, the political elite can ignore it. Look at the protests in Israel. They've served no purpose at all.
3
Charles Mudede shows the similarity of the Occupy Childrens Crusade to an hysterical wife. You heard it here first.
4
You're absolutely right, Charles. Excellent summation.
5
"an hysterical"

Someone needs to give you a copy of The Little Penguin Handbook.
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'An' before a word beginning with the letter h is accepted practice if a bit anachronistic. At any rate to my ears it sounds far better than the alternative 'a hysterical wife.'
7
Fair enough, but...

"Peace! Count the clock!"
"The clock hath stricken three."

That's anachronism.
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Also, on your usage, do you pronounce hysterical as "ISterical?"
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@8,

Oh my God! The troll is Eliza Doolittle!
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@9 Not only would SB be infinitely cuter than I could possibly imagine "him" to be, it would also be appropriate for someone from the UK to use British English. :P
11
Republicans love the occupy movement so damn much, Democrats hate the occupy movement so damn much.
12
Because if there's  nothing Joe Sixpack enjoys more, it's a political philosophy debate with an incoherant slovenly Slovak.
13
I agree with Mudede and Zizek. And alas, @2, the cops don't need any excuse to crack heads.
14
Whuuuuuuut?
15
Bullshit! Remember, politicians are not your only target audience. The 99% of the 99% that haven't been coming to the protests are arguably the most important target audience. These are the people who could still be convinced to join you. They're the people who vote for the politicians. They're the people you want to convince to move their money away from BOA and CITI. The longer you go without a coherent message the more these people see you as just a bunch of hippie stoners trying to legalize weed.

I can't tell you how many of my friends agree wholeheartedly with the Occupy message when I've explained it in clear terms while at the same time being sick and tired of the movement. Liberals who absolutely believe in higher taxes on the wealthy, removing corporate money from elections, better education and most of the individual points Occupy is trying to make. Unfortunately, as this drags on longer and longer, especially into Winter, the more "normal" people at the protests will go home to their warm beds and the protests will "purify" into nothing but kids with tattooed faces and stretched earlobes. At that point you lose 99% of the 99% and you've become irrelevant.

Clarify your message and get it out there ASAP and you can still garner support. If you choose not to do that, or you're unable to do that, you will lose. Later this month snow will start to fly and the protests will disperse. Get your shit together and you can still change something. If you don't do it soon you will fall faster and harder than the Tea Party.

Oh, and to any Occupiers who choose not to vote. Go the fuck home. You're irrelevant. Even if you vote for a third party candidate with no real chance of winning fucking vote. If you can't even be bothered to do that there is no reason anyone should listen to your opinion on political matters.
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"...the movement is not an ideology...it is a body of thought that coheres into a value system but not a belief system...a confluence of evolving ideas...a creator of choice, actions, and solutions." Paul Hawken, Blessed Unrest

There's something to be said for articulating a demand, and then pulling the levers that get the demand acted upon, and that work is happening, and will continue to happen. Activists will always coalesce around issues, and they'll win or loose, and then reorganize or move on to the next issue. My participation in Occupy is not to articulate a platform of demands - besides, they've been articulated for years - but to be a part of the groundswell that supports the issue work that is already going on. My outcry is against the institutions that have built a system in which the demands are even necessary.

Yes, people will drop away, you just can't download the change that's necessary at kindle-speed, (sunshine patriots) but some people have been helping Occupy become for 40-50-60 years, and now more people who are just cutting their teeth will be in this for their lifetimes.

And as far as voting goes, by all means vote, it can't hurt, may help, and is truly the least you can do every few years. But if you put your faith in the results, you'll just be fooled again. The real work of democracy takes place between elections.
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Please, more Occupy protests. More confrontations with the police. More tents, more chants, more drums, more tirades against the status quo. More pot, more booze, more students and homeless coming together.

You're certain to elect a Republican as President in 2012. More!

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