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The Stranger's coverage is just as faulty as the rest of MSM.
There's a lot of potential in the Occupy Seattle movement, its focus on income inequality is right on, and it sucks when the movement loses focus and/or engages in misdirected, unhelpful actions.
But it was very important that he get his reactionary images up here on his blog. Gotta get those pageviews, you see. Eli Sanders gotta make some dough from ad revenue, and he doesn't really care how he gets it.
Flip-flop.
@18: Click here and check the date.
That's the Seattle Central Community College Student Lobbying Committee, not Occupy Seattle. In your blog post, you criticized Occupy Seattle for not organizing carpools, which they are.
Obviously jobs going overseas is hurting the country and made-in-China-headquarters Wal-Mart is not a good place to spend your money, but I've seen many postings on OWS pages and other sympathetic places talking about how Black Friday is the worst thing in the world and that we shouldn't spend any money on anything. I just think that's not the real issue, and obviously if "we" (why did you keep putting that in quotes?) were to not spend any money, the economy would be affected and even more jobs would be lost. Shopping on Black Friday isn't going to fix things, but railing against the idea of putting money into the economy isn't either. Weakening middle class income and the associated lack of spending is one of the things screwing up our economy.
Ever hear of it.
Hard to walk around without bumping into a one percenter.
Why not go to the source??
Occupy Seattle, stop attacking citizens! Get off your ass and give us a reason to support you, so far your striking out.
I am all for class warfare, as long as it doesn't affect my ability to get a spectacular bargain at Target. Like yesterday, a Kitchen Aid mixer for $199...so I could make that ancient bread that SLOG told me about.
There are thousands of one percenters around Seattle...almost none of them shop at Walmart or Southcenter.
Even better...take Metro...go to the source and leave us Middle 80% alone.
Perhaps he avoided walking to the SCCC encampment to ask questions because he wanted to avoid the stench.
Until they can come up with that rational argument these people will view the crowd as a bunch of dirty hippies. I don't like it either, but it is the truth.
The Occupy movement should jettison all the anti-Capitalist dopes (who I'll label "the other 1%) and focus on income inequality, unfair taxation, and trade policies that benefit no one but the wealthy, and stuff the other shit down a hole.
I am planning to go down to Olympia Sunday night/Monday morning and it sounds like a lot of OS folks are planning to do the same.
I have found the coverage in The Stranger/Slog to be pretty fair, even when critical (and even when critical in a way I disagree with).
I also am reminded that when something with this movement, which I appreciate and have high hopes for, happens that is contrary to how I feel things should go -- it only means I need to get off of my blog-commenting ass and participate a little more.
I have a small tribe of nieces and nephews and plan on getting them presents from Top-Ten Toys, Math & Stuff and University Bookstore. They'll all grow up to be engineers if I have any say about it :p. I was down in Enumclaw for Thanks Giving, and I am at work today here in Seattle. I'll pay whatever prices in the ensuing weeks for their gifts.
And I've got a carpool to Oly already squared away.
As much as Eli's coverage of the Walmart protest and carpooling was a bit thin he's at least using his megaphone to propose an agenda.
Right, because writing something in a blog is so much more proactive than writing a comment in response to the blog.
What many of us are saying seems to be that we think what OccupySeattle is doing is stupid and counterproductive and we wish it would go away. Clearly when ever someone proposes anything rational...like actually protesting a 1% person, there is either a stunned silence or a vague grumbling about "Chase bank"
At this point, I have my suspicions about what drove Occupy and it ain't social progress.
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Occupiers 'Flash' Message to Black Friday Shoppers
NBC San Diego - Gene Cubbison - 6 hours ago
Walmart opened their doors before midnight to encourage early shopping.(AP Photo/Noah Berger) For Occupy San Diego activists, Black Friday was a time for ...
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Occupy OKC protesters in Wal-Mart
KFOR - Tara Blume - 6 hours ago
A group of Occupy OKC protesters are arrested inside a local Wal-Mart in Del City. The activists began chanting inside the store when managers asked them to ...
Occupy Honolulu Protests Black Friday at Walmart
Honolulu Civil Beat - Sanjeev Ranabhat - 22 hours ago
Walmart shoppers encountered Occupy Honolulu protesters who encouraged people not to spend their money at the store. ...
Occupy New Port Richey Performs Flash Mob at Area Businesses
Patch.com - Alex Tiegen - 7 hours ago
The Occupy members left and moved on to a nearby Wal-mart, in which they performed the complete routine. The Gulf View Square Mall is owned by Simon ...
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Significant property damage at North Seattle bank
Posted by Detective Mark Jamieson
On November 26th, at approximately 2:50 am, unidentified suspect(s) used unknown tools to shatter and/or break holes in nearly all of the windows and the ATM screen at a bank located in the 1000 Block of NE 63rd Street. A large spray paint tag was left on the bank’s southwest exterior wall that read, “REVENGE FOR OCCUPY OAKLAND” No entry was made into the bank.
It is estimated that the damage to the building in the tens of thousands of dollars.
Responding officers canvassed the area for any potential witnesses and additional evidence. If anyone has any information on this crime, please contact the Seattle Police Department. Detectives will now handle the follow up investigation.
Because they are poor. But thanks for looking down on those you claim to support; is it any wonder so many vote Republican when liberals like you sneer at them?
For those with limited time, which is most everyone with work and kids, one way to support the 99% is with economic choices, like not shopping at corporations whose ideals and goals are antithetical to the 99%. I agree that it's a complicated message to transmit, but I don't feel @3 useless, @6 misdirected, @32 controlled, @40 time wasting, or @41 stupid and counterproductive trying.
#OccupySeattle: The people going to Black Friday are already hurting in the wallet, especially at Wal-Mart...probably especially in Renton. But, they're part of the problem, right? They're part of the problem for shopping when all the best sales are going on so they can stretch their dollar at a place that has shitty labor laws and shitty pay so people who are already getting shitty pay can pay as little as possible. They're the problem, right? Because they're the cogs in this cycle of abuse with the least individual leverage.
"too complicated to transmit"
WAhhh,,,,you just dont understand!!!!!
Normal person: Hey, look, occupant, theres a billionaire right there
Occupant: Oh, no, that is a super special person who saves the world..we only protest walmart shoppers trying to prepare waffles fort their kids
Waaahhhhhhh....Im a rebel...cant ya see?1?!
Note they never criticize any behavior that really hurts people when its part of the high tax, densifying, urban agenda run by super rich 1% Democrats.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion…
*points to the sign* The 1% billionaire's right there, even part of his name in it.
I must admit I haven't looked at the vid. If there were Occupiers using shame tactics on individuals, that's just gross, but they're individual Occupiers, and not the movement. They don't represent the 99% any more than you do, or any less. Obviously the focus by media on the event (any event) was whatever confrontation arose. Would a confrontation with management/authority have made it more successful?
I am totally confident that you understand the issues about Walmart and its global economic implications. As I'm confident you could come up with something snarky to say about organ harvesting in Chinese labor camps.
re: the minivan. Obviously you mistake me for some sort of empire stooge who would choose inefficient big oil supporting individual transport. People really do consider what they buy.
Have you read about how some Gates project tried to get kids in Africa to use merry-go-rounds to pump water, and then bailed when the logistics/maintenance became expensive, leaving damaged wells, and press release apologies? If you haven't it's because he has a better press agent than the individual Occupier.
Are you hatin' the message, the messenger, or the movement? (and/or my pissy blather, which would be totally understandable)
"The Occupy movement should jettison all the anti-Capitalist dopes (who I'll label "the other 1%) and focus on income inequality, unfair taxation, and trade policies that benefit no one but the wealthy, and stuff the other shit down a hole."
I'm confused. Talking about the disparities in income inequality, unfair taxation, and "free" trade policies--you know policies that benefit actual capitalists, not middle class pretenders who think they're capitalists--isn't that pretty much anti-capitalist?
Oh, and consumerism isn't a way to exploit those people? I'm all for finding a friendlier way, but "jettisoning" anyone is just as silly. But this is coming from people who think the only valid function of OWS should be a Democratic GOTV operation.
Do OWS organizers think WalMart shoppers don't know that working for WalMart is a crappy job? Or that they don't know perfectly well that the stuff they're buying is made somewhere overseas under terrible working conditions?
Are protesters hectoring shoppers in parking lots on the assumption that the poor are stupid?
Or do they just want it to look that way?
Also, I like the tapeworm inside me but I'd hardly stop there with my search for the cure to obesity.
& during that same time the people protesting walmart also have pointed out walmart is paying shit salaries and hurting poor people with their labor policies/practices.
it would be different if all this was out of nowhere but this race to the bottom is at least 20 years old now, and in this marathon of attrition it now is obvious that no one but the waltons and their corhorts win.
We totally agree on that. I would've rather seen the efforts in the dozens of Walmarts across the US go like this "Seventy-five Occupy San Diego activists shopped at a crowded local Wal-Mart Friday. As they approached the checkout lines, they abandoned their full ..." The ten arrests in OKC seem more a single authoratay's tackle-the-hippy over-reaction, but obviously just chanting about economic choices is a threat. Do you think that Walmart shouldn't be protested at all?
1. Buy American.
2. Buy Local.
3. Stick your money in a small bank or credit union, where it will be reinvested in the local community, creating US jobs, since most of that money goes to job-creating US small business, and since they make a median $25,000 a year (the owners) they aren't 1 percenters trying to take your money and ship it overseas.