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Jolson's blackface grossly exaggerated racial features (the big red lips), and the percieved "step'n fetchit" mentality which is clearly racist, but is that really in the same category as what was done on SNL, where it was just an actor with darkened skin acting normally, in order to better play a character of a different race?
Seems to me there is more to blackface then just the simple fact of dyed skin. I dunno...just seems to be on a whole different level. Is it always racist by nature, or does the performance actually matter?
As a GoT fan, this is nowhere even close to what the Dothraki look like/act like. I bet they just liked how "ethnic" it sounded.
We were sitting toward the end of the parade, and where most floats got a little whoop of delight from the crowd, the blond haired, black skinned "tribe" got stony silence. They were all huddled together, not making eye contact with the crowd.
These are Dothraki slaves.
Dothraki grow their hair long, unless defeated in battle and always ride horses unless they are enslaved.
An interesting costume choice.
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I mean, GOOD LORD.
And since they themselves claim to be Dathraki who (as so many have pointed out) arent black this is just plain wierd.
Since blackface exists in the US as a symbol for racism (not just an inherent racist ideal) its wierd these kids didn't pick it up.
Also they would make excellent Drow though... Slap a pair of silvery swords on one of them and white wig and it would be not so very racist and so very much more awesome.
Hey, there were some people dressed as baboons in the parade as well. I'm sure that's racist as well, right? Because, you know, some people at some time compared African-Americans to monkeys, and baboons are monkeys, so there ya go. Oh, I also saw some people dancing as well. They're obviously racists, because dancing was one of the stereotypes attributed to African-Americans, so all dancers are racists who should feel shame.
One last thing, take your "you just don't get it" attitude & shove it. I know about the use of blackface in American history. That doesn't mean that anytime anyone puts paint on their skin that happens to be a darker shade than the one they walk around in is at all equivalent. The sick thing is that there is real, actual, honest-to-god racism going on in America today, and it's shit like this that allows the bigots to hide easier. Because normal Americans tend to roll their eyes at purity trolling like this, and so become all that more jaded when the accusations are real.
Hey, there were some people dressed as baboons in the parade as well. I'm sure that's racist as well, right? Because, you know, some people at some time compared African-Americans to monkeys, and baboons are monkeys, so there ya go. Oh, I also saw some people dancing as well. They're obviously racists, because dancing was one of the stereotypes attributed to African-Americans, so all dancers are racists who should feel shame.
One last thing, take your "you just don't get it" attitude & shove it. I know about the use of blackface in American history. That doesn't mean that anytime anyone puts paint on their skin that happens to be a darker shade than the one they walk around in is at all equivalent. The sick thing is that there is real, actual, honest-to-god racism going on in America today, and it's shit like this that allows the bigots to hide easier. Because normal Americans tend to roll their eyes at purity trolling like this, and so become all that more jaded when the accusations are real.
I had some trouble w/ the scissors.
Perhaps this is why no on booed them.
They weren't carrying spears but one of them did have a plastic sword.
THIS.
this is why so many people think that most liberals are overly sensitive busybodies who want to actively censor other ways of thinking and speaking. why would you need to say that in an email?
(I learned everything I needed to know from AD&D and Star Trek. Can't handle the real world but give me an underground booby trapped tunnel system or some green dude with 8 arms who wants to make out and I know what to do)
Not that I disagree one bit.
These people have the excuse of being young and naive, Will. What's yours? "Nords", really? Are you in the Aryan Brotherhood now, Will?
@22: "Nothing screams racism to me than a bunch of hand-wringing, afraid-for-the-children, suburban liberals shaking in their boots in anticipation for when they can righteously & indignantly scream RACISM! I'VE FOUND RACISM HERE!!!"
Nobody's screaming. It's just tone-deaf and retarded, as is your FREAKED OUT response imagining someone FREAKING OUT. You're the shrill one in this thread, nobodaddy.
if that's what you took away from what I said then seriously fuck off.
@Fnaf, I wish most teenagers had the reding comprehension and patience to read those books. If those were our societie's pulp there would be no Twilight.
Sometimes I walk past a cult temple on my way to work. Say what you will about Satanists, but at least they know on what day to celebrate the solstice.
Dothraki are more closely modeled on Mongols or Native Americans, so the blackface doesn't make an ounce of sense if that's what they were going for.
If these people want to learn something about actual people, why not dip into a book like "Maya Roads: One Woman's Journey Among The People of the Rainforest", or any of a thousand others like it, rather than dressing up out of some cod-mythological fantasy dross? The people of the world are not here for your amusement.
I like how these fratboys just wanted an excuse to parade around in blackface without actually reading the books.
They don't even want to learn anything about fictional people.
"Silly hippies, your jungle boogie dance float will be viewed (incorrectly!) as being racist."
yeah... yeah...
Damn straight. They are here for the amusement of travel writers like Mary Jo McConahay. Hands off.
These douches ain't hippies.
Get a fucking hint!
God, you people are so PC.
Let it go. It's just your ego.
That's exactly what blackface is? It's not about looking brown.
@59: Racism isn't all burning crosses in public, you know. There's racism, there's ignorance, and this case was a good deal of both.
My point stands; even "travel writers" are interested in the world, and sometimes write perceptively about it. Fantasy writers, even "good" ones, do not. And these kids probably aren't even reading "Game of Thrones" at all; they're watching it on TV. I hear there's a lot of hot sex in it.
"Dothraki's have tan skin? Well, black's close enough!"
Do you see what's problematic with this kind of thinking?
@67- They were doing some random "tribal" dancing while painted black. It's hard to know what the fuck they were getting at. I'm not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt, it seems to be they feel black people dance around to drums and don't do anything else.
So like 80% of the fucking parade then.
Look out, here come the white race police screaming waaaaycism every 30 seconds.
Phew. Good. I've been feeling down lately and being a sanctimonious twat is just what the doctor ordered.
RACISTS!!!
Yeah! That hit the spot.
As for the white race police, I fully encourage them to come join the ranks of this "waaaaaycism"-screaming latina
As a Scandinavian American can I be offended every time I see a black girl in a straight blonde weave?
didn't read your post before my first one so,
its called doing a shitty job at making a fucking costume. I suck at a lot of things, still do them, and don't get called racist for almost any of them. Its amazing how that works. Guess I'm just lucky I never tried to perform for you
Abos? Are u fucking kidding mate, they look nothing like abos, or racists dressing as abos.
Abos? Are u fucking kidding mate, they look nothing like abos, or racists dressing as abos.
As a repatriated Pennsylvanian who lived in Seattle for 7 years I live around, work with and hear racist attitudes frequently.
Their act is noting compared to the real life racism that is alive and thriving in the United States. This is what you all should be outraged about - A bunch of drunk high school kids who killed a Mexican immigrant and the town cops who covered it up and then have the nerve to appeal their hate crime convictions. I am glad this judge upheld their sentences.
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As a repatriated Pennsylvanian who lived in Seattle for 7 years I live around, work with and hear racist attitudes frequently.
Their act is noting compared to the real life racism that is alive and thriving in the United States."
I'm glad that you think that racism is okay in public because there's violence also occurring. Congratulations for suggesting that we let these idiots get away with their fratboy-at-burning-man stunts because there are murders going on. It's possible to care about all of them at once! Crazy, I know.
Will In Seattle *does* exist for our amusement, though. I'm pretty convinced of that.
we have millions in poverty largely people of color or disproportionately so.
we have plurality black DC residents suffering de jure race discrimination; you all in Seattle get to vote for patty murray and she makes laws for DC residents like it's a colony. I don't see you all in an uproar about the fact you wield colonial power of the black people of dc (and other residents, who as you know don't have equal voting rights with residents of "states".)
Then there's a few million Puerto Ricans, also largely people of color, they don't have real voting rights and don't vote for congress (a voting rep) or the president.
then we got our DoJ saying cops here assault citizens, we got michigan repubicans muggingt their state constitution every day, we got the montana repu blican party showing an "obama outhouse" with bullet holes on it and a sign, "for a good time call michelle." All this kind of stuff is racist, and serious, and focusing on this kind of ultra pc crap is just fucking stupid when there's so much real racism at large in the world.
the zulu club in new orleans does a mardi gras parade. they have "mardi gras indians" who aren't indians. people who dress up and dance around may or may not have some kind of racial ....thing...going on. on the scales of what's important, it's minute compared to the fact there's like FIVE MILLION people of color in lands we rule over without rights to vote.
The women were *quite* hot. That distracted me from anything beyond that.
For example, I have a friend who was going to embroider some six pointed golden stars on the sleeves of her jacket. But she didn't, because even though she wasn't trying to evoke memories of the Holocaust, she realized it would. So she did something else.
This is the kind of decision reasonable people make all the time.
"Get a life"
Argument won, everybody go home.
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Yes, it does, you're all incredibly fucking dumb.
hey it's only like five million people of color without voting rights. no biggie. but folks marching with black paint? OHMYGOD.
Stupid sheltered white kid thinks its totally ok to cover themselves in black body paint
Stupid sheltered white kid getting all roiled up about a cause that isn't theirs to take on
Guess there's no winning for us stupid white kids.