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I didn't quite follow the connection between a felony assault charge and the parts about UFC's history of misogyny and homophobia. Is it explained in the links, or are you just noting UFC doesn't care about its appearance as an organization in general?

Hover Dog on November 28, 2012 at 4:39 PM

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Oh really? A guy who beats the shit out of people for a living beat the shit out of someone at a bar?

stop the presses!

high and bi on November 28, 2012 at 4:44 PM

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I heard there were these lacrosse players who raped this girl and called a guy a homophobic slur. There for all lacrosse must be condemned!

Good thing there are no thugs or jerks that participate in baseball, football, basketball, bowling, or pingpong.

tkc on November 28, 2012 at 5:02 PM

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Yeah, if you're charged with assaulting a veteran you should be suspended. Why can't these UFC guys stick to punching non-veterans? That's how I do it.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn on November 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM

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Boy, the bar scene around Lower Queen Anne should be an absolute hoot on December 7th.

jeffinfremont on November 28, 2012 at 5:18 PM

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@1 -- I couldn't even get the links to tell me the victim was a veteran ... much less the sort of US Army veteran that might be the habitual prey of misogynists and homophobes.

RonK, Seattle on November 28, 2012 at 5:21 PM

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What is it with Jeremy/Jerramy Stephens/Stevenses? Dudes are violent.

leek on November 28, 2012 at 5:41 PM

8

UFC: Gay porn for guys who won't admit to an interest in gay porn.

laterite on November 28, 2012 at 5:42 PM

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I know that this quote was included in an Iowa paper at the time of his arrest: ""There's witnesses that can prove that Jeremy had not assaulted anybody,"

But you are probably right. Just suspend people and keep them from making money until they are proven innocent.

JonnyH on November 28, 2012 at 5:54 PM

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Who is Stephens fighting? Root for that guy. Natural justice.

Westlake, son! on November 28, 2012 at 6:08 PM

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Yeah, to hell with "innocent until proven guilty".

on November 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM

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Throw in a vat of some crazy acid or something, and we have ourselves a real supervillian for Phoenix Jones (non-UFC MMA fighter).

madcap on November 28, 2012 at 6:32 PM

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So-called sophisticated Seattle has gone feral....what's next, truck and tractor pulls on Broadway?

Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on November 28, 2012 at 6:40 PM

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The trucknutz density in lower queen anne will increase by at least 2 orders of magnitude that night.

on November 28, 2012 at 7:34 PM

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@8

Gay panic isn't dead, I see.

Nobody should live in fear of appearing to be a little bit gay. There'd be a lot less bullying if teenagers could learn that. It's OK to like sports with male bodies in them. It doesn't make you gay.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn on November 28, 2012 at 7:37 PM

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This may be the dumbest thing I've seen posted on Slog in years. The guy hasn't been convicted, may not be guilty, and, as presented, has nothing to do with homophobia or misogyny, but he is a professional fighter, and some of those guys aren't very nice, so he shouldn't be allowed to make a living while he awaits trial? Maybe if he were stupid and given to flights of irrationality, you might better empathize with him, Al.

Post_Mortem on November 28, 2012 at 7:57 PM

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I'll go a step further: I didn't bother to dig up the links and find out whether the guy was proven guilty or not because it doesn't matter to me. If he's still awaiting trial, then he's technically still innocent and should be allowed to make a living. If he was convicted and is now "out of the joint" because he's paid his dues to society, he still should be allowed to make a living. It's not like he's a danger to hurt others outside of the ring working as an MMA fighter, in the same way that a pedophile would working in a daycare. So what's the big deal? Are we supposed to hang a scarlet letter on the guy and punish him for life?

He may be an a-hole, but we can't throw people to the margins because some others don't them.

floater on November 28, 2012 at 9:17 PM

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this article is bad and you should feel bad.

johnnygaijin on November 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

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I didn't realize being a veteran meant you couldn't get your ass kicked. I've known a couple vets who could use an ass kicking. Now, if he kicked his girlfriend's ass for not getting him a sammich or something, you'd have an article.

Or maybe this is ironic advertising? Hey guys! UFC is coming! And they got a guy who's just fucking crazy! And he swears! Can you believe it? It's gonna be wild!

TheMisanthrope on November 28, 2012 at 10:02 PM

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This is quite possibly the most biased and ill-informed post I have ever read on The Stranger/Slog.

Birdsy on November 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

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UFC fighting is more humane than boxing. The fights are shorter, there's no 10-count on knock outs, and they are just as likely to end in a (non-permanently damaging) submission hold as they are with some guy unconscious on the floor. All of this means significantly fewer blows to the head per fight.

It's also much more directly relevant to real-world self-defense. If it's a boxer vs. a wrestler, always bet on the wrestler.

But, yeah, I know a friend of a fiend who was a UFC fighter who would practice by kicking the shit out of guys in parking lots of various bars in rural Maine. Too bad no one shot him.

seandr on November 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM

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Waaaa... I don't know crap about MMA but that won't keep me from slandering it in print. Derp...

on November 28, 2012 at 11:33 PM

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@everyone: Al is billed as an intern. Don't we think it's a great thing that young (or at least inexperienced) people want to learn to be journalists, and that The Stranger provides a program for guys like Al to do some writing? Yeah, this is not a perfect article, but let's keep the criticism constructive.

Al, you put a paragraph together pretty well. And you make some mistakes, but you care about things. Keep writing.

yuiop on November 28, 2012 at 11:44 PM

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@25 as an editor for a high school newspaper, I rejected better written tripe than this.

Post_Mortem on November 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

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@25 I can't tell if you're serious, or damning with faint praise, or trolling.

10/10 would read again!

TheMisanthrope on November 29, 2012 at 1:16 AM

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hover dog (1) - its a stupid thing to be misogynistic, to be homophobic OR to think its fun to watch people get beat up... see? the common thread is stupidity.

peskypoop on November 29, 2012 at 4:40 AM

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@26, if that's the case you should be in bed kid...you posted at 12 am in the morning.

Cato the Younger Younger on November 29, 2012 at 7:48 AM

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Unpaid intern should remain ... Unpaid.

pfffter on November 29, 2012 at 7:53 AM

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The man is in the Hurt Business, which is an ugly business. For more detail on that business, check out Mike Tyson's upcoming one man show.

"Boxing (fighting) don't have no old timers league, Butch"

Sir Vic on November 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM

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@29 He used the past tense. Click on his bio, and you'll find he is cleared for staying up to watch Conan.

ScrawnyKayaker on November 29, 2012 at 8:55 AM

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@8 - My wife and I enjoy gay porn AND UFC or MMA, though we're sometimes annoyed at the culture surrounding the sports (my background is in traditional martial arts, where respect and humility are de rigeur).

@28 - Different sports may disguise and codify violence to different degrees, but make no mistake--all sport is ritualized wargaming. In my experience, the average UFC fan is no more stupid than the average NFL fan (and football, it should be noted, actually exhibits higher rates of brain and spinal injury than boxing or MMA).

thelyamhound on November 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

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One would think citizens would be happy that the Key Arena is getting some solid bookings, seriously as fucked up as UFC is, people will pay money to see it. Its like Wrestling, only real. Why? Because people are bored of how fake wresting has become.

Kinison on November 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM

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I'm a big fan of the UFC, and my brother-in-law is an MMA fighter, but you'll never catch me accidentally saying something good about Dana White. That dude is a giant toolbox.

evilvolus on November 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

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@28, if you can't appreciate the finer points of a sport, that's fine, but please don't assume the rest of us suffer from your limitations.

At the highest levels, MMA involves well trained fighters, often skilled practioners of martial arts which have almost no other media exposure in the US, who have been planning and preparing for each particular fight for months. Most fights worth watching will exhibit a mixture of skill, talent, and tactical thinking. For those of us with backgrounds in martial arts other than boxing, this is one of the few times we can readily see competition of this sort.

Post_Mortem on November 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM

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