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800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
Pay your property taxes and stop stealing transit money from Kent for your stupid tunnels, Greedattle.
If he can sell it to his funders, who pay him handsomely, then it's game on. It doesn't even matter if the voters reject the initiatives in November -- he gets his money whatever happens.
Don't count on it.
@6: because these stupid, frivolous ballot measures cost money to oppose, money that could be better spent pursuing less stupid policy ideas.
How did this state get so elitist? Washingtonians should be a humble, and a more than little apologetic, like a dog that just shit on the rug.
Seattle is a retirement home for billionaires. They just need to get rid of all the middle class people crowding up the roads an expecting a "fair wage" and stack it up with enough apodment dwellers to man the better restaurants and escort services.
You do realize there are more Washington voters not residing in Seattle than there are WA voters in Seattle?
These initiatives are not for city ordinance. They are for state law. I can vote on this initiative and I don't live in Seattle.
Much to your dismay, I'm also way further to the Left than any voter in Seattle. I will be voting No, although you hardly needed me to tell you that.
I feel like I need a Tim Eyman trollface shirt. If this isn't a troll attempt, people are going to hurt themselves facepalming.
I'm here to tell you, it all goes back to toilet training, and somebody did a number on him.
But remember, unbrainwashed: each new day is a NEW day!
Cheers!
The initiative process was designed as a way for increased citizen governance. To give voters a direct say in creating laws (or revoking them in the case of referendums).
But what the framers of the state constitution never dreamed of is someone like Timmy turning the initiative process into a profitable enterprise. By fundraising and finding rich sponsors, he's been able to run initiative after initiative, year after year, for 15 years now. There is nothing grass-roots or citizen-driven behind his efforts. He just gets enough money from his backers to pay enough signature gatherers to get his stupid initiatives on the ballot. And makes a handsome profit for himself in the process. It doesn't even matter much if it passes, or if it is constitutional. He gets paid either way.
Tim Eyman is a parasite.
Maybe democrats should try it.
So, though I dislike eyman and what he stands for, he's out their pushing his views, yes, he makes money doing it, and yes, it's often tossed out. but the whole process pushes our politics to the right, my god, for years he got the leg to follow and obey his unconstitutional 1/3 minority rule initiative. like little lapdogs. maybe instead of whining about eyman, progressives should
dream up initiatives that pass
even if they're unconstitutional, you can make a point.
build lists and grass roots brand ID
instead of sitting around whining alla time that "oh my god, tim eyman is doing poollllitics again! mommy, make him stop! why are the voters so dumb, boo hoo boo hoo I wish we had smarter voters to see the brilliance of our proposals, we just can't win with the public," whine whine whine whine whine.
you don't like his initiative on taxes? go write the one you like, put it on the fucking ballot, and stop crying. you want higher taxes? put that on the ballot. you want exemptions sunsetting after one year? shutup, quit whining go put it on the ballot. try to win an argument with the public for once and stop the whining. FDR and LBJ would be embarrassed to be in the same room with us.
Personally, I think the legislature should ban paid signature gatherers. That would return the initiative process to its original intent: to allow grassroots citizen governance. That way initiatives could only get on the ballot if you have enough honest grassroots support to gather signatures with volunteers.
I say this even in regards to initiatives I support. For example, I supported the general idea of getting the state out of the business of being a monopoly on liquor sales. But I didn't like that Costco basically bought and paid for the initiative that finally succeeded in doing so. It was clearly written in a way that gave advantage to big-box retailers and hamstrung small independent brewers. It passed largely because of the huge amounts of money Costco spent promoting it. In that case, I agreed with the general intent of the initiative, but I thought the way it was written and backed was disgraceful and anti-democratic.
I cannot believe you totally missed the opportunity to remind Tim's funders what a poor investment he is: 1 in 13 of his initiatives passed.
I have no plans to float a dam initiative. Dams don't float, plus we already have enough dams in the world - we don't need more.
Though I am curious how you get money from a dam?
Goldy is bitching about Eyman again! And, what's he using as his supporting facts? Oh, a completely fucking regressive tax!
Goldy, you once said you'd fight for regressive taxation. I laughed and said prove me wrong. Here's your proof! Any tax is a good tax. Signed, Goldy.
You mean like the GMO petitioners who do it out of the goodness of their hearts? Oh, but wait. The fuckwits like that one, so we won't talk about paid signature gathering, will we?
Yet the voters, who you loathe except when they do what you fuckwits tell them to do, keep voting for his initiatives. Face it, the Seattle fuckwits fear and hate democracy.