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Why do Republicans hate America?
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#1 because they hate the poor and have managed to convince them that they are protecting them.
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#3

have fun when they mandate $400 from your paycheck.
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Considering the demographics of the T-baggers it will be interesting to see what they think of the Government if their Social Security payments are not made.
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Let's see, I want too see the facts before I get passionate. Fact: Affordable Care Act will help tens of millions get access to preventative healthcare and save lives.
Fact: Republicans offer absolutely NO alternative.
O.k.
Fuck the motherfucking Republicans!
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rabble rabble rabble! rabble! rabble rabble!

the house is smart enough to know they can only try this shit right now in the election cycle. the flibberdigibbet public won't remember in 13 months, and they'll send the same craven arsonists back again.
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Political discourse reduced to sports cliches. @6: Thank you for introducing me to that word.
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We have only ourselves to blame for a broken congress. We complain about them and then vote in the same exact people every year.

Until the incumbency rate is closer to the (dis)approval ratings, we will continue to get the broken, incompetent, greedy, and puerile congress we deserve.

Right now all we have reactionaries, far right wingnuts, right wingnuts, staunch conservatives, conservatives, and heavily right leaning centrists. Yet, we wonder why the middle class is dying and more and more people are being thrust into poverty by conservative economic policies.



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Let's admit something here. Fox News and the syndicators of right-wing talk radio have created an awesome propaganda machine that has poisoned the political dialog and brainwashed enough of the country to make shit like this possible. It's been utterly brilliant, and will be spoken of as such in the history books.

The comment threads on many mainstream news sites are now infested with wingnut zombies. Some speak in Palinesque phrases, others throw around their rallying cries of contempt for lifeline phones ("welfare cellphones!"), food stamps, "Obamacare", "liberals", and so forth. Posting anything intelligent is like throwing chum in the water for sharks.

I don't even have the vocabulary to describe these people or how I feel about them. It's somewhere between deep despair and feeling like we're in a zombie apocalypse movie for real. But, these are the people who are putting those teabaggers in our Congress.
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If only we were talking just a government shutdown. The House Republicans are talking about refusing to raise the debt ceiling and defaulting on the federal debt. Considering we just had the fifth anniversary of Lehman Bros., this would be the crash all over again, even though we haven't recovered from the last one. And there are some things--like the world trusting the dollar as the reserve currency of choice--which, once lost, can't be gotten back.

I caught last night's "Hardball" on MSNBC, and the Republican Alabama representative Chris Matthews had on tried to make it sound like it was Obama who was the one taking hostages and threatening default, at the same time he tried to downplay default. Because you know, if someone kidnaps your child and you refuse to give in to the kidnapper's demands, when it comes time for the kidnapper to kill your child, it might as well be you who pulled the trigger.
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Actually they are, according to the definition, anarcho-capitalists. They are not conservatives at all.
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Equal pay for equal work?

Looks like WA State way behind.

Even TX is better for women!! (79 cents vs. 78)

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@8 It's the new people causing all the problems. They won't listen to Boehner and party leadership. It's actually the old guard that realizes that compromise is a good thing.
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#11

How do you manage and regulate money in an anarcho-capitalist society?
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@9 It's really shocking how vitriolic and one-sided such comment threads are.

Messy as it gets on Slog, at least I can count on several reliably intelligent commenters to weigh in on some issue.

The wingnuts seldom have a rational discussion, they aren't capable of understanding the deeper issues or seeing things as other than shrill talking points and coded buzzwords.

If there's a conservative version of Slog, a place with intelligent disagreement and discussion I haven't found it.

Bailo, do you hear this? As our captive wingnut on Slog, you're the face for all the insanity, the inability to be rational among the conservative ranks. Your inability to be rational and on topic is, for us, evidence that all conservatives are idiots divorced from reality.

Good job, man, keep it up.
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@13: The senate and house incumbency rates have been around 90% for a long time now, so unless those 10% are really holding the 90% hostage, it is not just a question of a "new guard" coming in and messing things up.

The discourse shifted, not the congressional population. I am not sure why it shifted so drastically, but it likely is a mix of media outlets, a mixed-race president, and the financial meltdown.

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Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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@5 The GOP, courtesy of the Republican Study Committee, has finally presented an alternative to the ACA.

Unsurprisingly, the plan focuses on tax deductions and the ability to sell insurance across state lines. Basically, if you're not doing well enough to take advantages of the tax deductions the plan won't help you. At the same time, it'll be a race to the bottom as insurance companies move to the states with the least amount of regulation.

http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpr…
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As a small business owner I've been reading up on what I need to do for myself and my employees with respect to the phasing in of ObamaCare. The last thing I want to hear is that all the planning I am doing now may be for nought.

Bureaucracy is a known evil. Uncertainty is a business killer.
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Only 81 of the Congresspeople have been in office since 1995, long enough to have seen Gingrich's shenanigans firsthand.

167 Congresspeople have been elected since 2011, after ObamaCare became law.

The new guard to a large extent outweighs the old guard.
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@18 That's not anything but the usual chimera they give us.
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@8: i fail to see how a person living in jim mcdermott's district for 20+ years is responsible for the current state of congress. please explain how i am part of the responsible "we".
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@18, @21 I read through their stupid bill. Or scanned it, at any rate, looking for any indication that the "tax deduction" was refundable. I couldn't find it, and there's no reason to bury it (it should be top line if it's there), so I have to conclude it's not refundable.

Soooo... They tout that their plan allows you to save $20,000 in taxes to go buy insurance for your family. Who's actually eligible for this? Practically nobody who'd need it. It's only fully available to those who, after subtracting their itemized or standard deductions, and their dependent exemptions, have to pay tax on an income of $115,000, so basically only people with salaries of at least $140,000 or so. They probably already have insurance as an employment benefit. Everyone else can just go fuck themselves.

The Republicans strike again.

My only question is, how come the fuck no one in the media is pointing this shit out?
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The best coaches in the NFL don't run the same play 40-odd times when it's not getting anything done. Say, when's the next futile-House-vote-to-repeal-Obamacare coming?
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@ 21 It's nothing new and pretty much what one would expect from them
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@23 I think that was their intent - to make the insurance deduction worthwhile to a small number of people, who also don't need the deduction.

It's classic GOP policy. Help those who don't need it and then tell everyone else they're on their own.
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@15,

They've definitely managed to take over almost all the comment threads at traditional newspapers. The New York Times is an outlier, it has rational commenters in its blogs and, I think, on its Op-eds, but then The NYT doesn't allow comments on its regular news stories. I'm not sure if it's astroturfing or if conservatives are just more likely to read the newspaper.
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@23

Isn't it amazing that with all the GOP talk of getting rid of the IRS , flat tax ,simplifying the tax code their answer to everything is always to add yet another "break" and probably several more 100 pages to the existing IRS regulations.

This , tort reform and allowing competition across lines to sell Mississippi style heath insurance will fix everything in their loony minds.
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Republican‘s would make great used car salesmen. They've hoodwinked the middle class into thinking that that really care about them and have catered to the rich every time they vote. There doing a great job of touting how the Affordable Care Act will ruin the country, only to be hiding their true agenda.

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