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Because you think you can get away with it.
As for civilian monitoring of these devices, you'll probably need equipment on a special band that unmodified regular network equipment doesn't operate on.
As for what these things are doing, if they were part of a radiation detecting network, I'd personally be pretty happy to live inside one. But, wouldn't they tell us? I mean, even if they're worried that the network would scare away "dirty bombers," I'd say that would be a good enough win right there.
This disaster medical response network also seems like a pretty benign application. If that's what it is. If they'd only come clean about what they're trying to do.
The Aruba paid liar put both the truth and the misdirection/redirection "fact" on the table in front of you; he's just insisting that you only look at his "fact."
All wireless data antenna arrays are capable of seeing any wireless data device that's capable of seeing them.
He admitted this fact.
What he's saying is that for THIS SPECIFIC PRODUCT they "discard" that identifying information.
The fact is that they don't "discard" the information; they simply reject your access to the network on the basis of the information and have not installed or simply do not use the requisite software in THIS SPECIFIC PRODUCT to store and track all unauthorized devices (ie - every wireless device that attempts to register with their network.).
His claim is akin to having Microsoft Office installed on your computer, but making the claim (aka - telling the lie) that Microsoft Office doesn't RUN on your computer simply because you don't use it.
Most wireless data devices have the same capacity to scan for other wireless data devices in their range; it's how the wireless data protocols are designed to work. And, if you added a couple of applications used by wireless network field technicians, you would be able to store and track detailed information about each devices electronic identity and profile.
Simply stated, the Aruba rep is a typical PR liar.
The company sells cities and police departments on this capability (wink, wink) then lies to the public by saying that the technology would never be used that way [insert politician's smile here].
All wireless data antenna arrays see all wireless data devices that utilize the spectrum and protocols of that wireless antenna, switch and network. All wireless data networks can easily store and track that information.
ALL OF THEM.
@4 I agree. Unless the feds are somehow more deeply involved than some grant money, it sounds crazy, and way less technically feasible then the cell tracking they already do (with warrant). Still, it's good to have some paranoia regarding privacy and government, especially given recent revelations about the feds. It's definitely a good thing an official review is happening.
This is like getting your panties all in a bunch that the cops TOTALLY have the ABILITY to SURREPTITIOUSLY INTERCEPT all of your CITIZEN BAND RADIO TRAFFIC. BREAKER BREAKER ONE NINE MOTHERFUCKERS. B-KILE THIS IS CHUCKMUD WHAT'S YOUR TWENTY GOOD BUDDY. REMEMBER TO SPEAK IN CODE BECAUSE SMOKEY'S GOT HIS EARS ON, OVER.
If you are worried about your location being monitored by the government I'd be much more concerned about the cellular antenna and the NSA's access to data from your cell provider.
Your option? Don't carry a phone.
Oh, and I have some nice tin foil for sale. I guarantee it will prevent anyone from reading your thoughts.
Couldn't three of those things use triangulation to figure out the location of any device? Of course, this is assuming that the device is within range of three of them.
And with these things being made to constantly communicate with each other, couldn't they just pass the info to each other and track the device as it is moving? Seems incredibly easy to me and I'm no expert on modern technology.
You're one bowel movement away from a complete lobotomy...keep pushing.
P.s. I am gonna lobby my cow-orkers to adopt cb radio handles too.
ROGER DODGER REEF BALLARD! OVER!
Bullshit. That's not our only option. The other option is to ensure government agencies aren't abusing this information. If you want to roll over like a little bitch, hand your iPhone to the government, and beg them to ass rape you with it, that's your business. But don't tell the rest of us that's our only option.
@11: Starbucks could easily be doing the exact same thing
Starbucks isn't a government agency that has installed a mesh network of access points throughout the city on public property. See the difference, genius?