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What I wonder is why does Seattleblues believe himself to be such an expert on how to suppress homosexual desires? What is his experience in this area?
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@107: SB is sort of a pet. He's so deliciously stupid that his entertainment value ends up being very high.
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My 21 year old child came to me a few months ago with some news about confusion over gender identity. The child had not been eating properly and had become quite thin in worry over this subject. I told the child, "Oh, Honey, we don't care at all what your gender or sexual identity is. We will support and defend you to the ends of the earth. Your father and I just want you to eat your dinner and be happy." End of story. I gave birth to this child. I love this child unconditionally. I can't fathom why I would treat the child any other way. (Using "child" in place of pronouns out of respect since issue is still being pondered by child.)
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@105

Still confused, boy?

The point isn't that you "call me out" on what you disagree with and mistakenly call lies. I mean, that would assume I care what you 'think', wouldn't it?

The point is that you never or very rarely do so with the actual lies of your buddies. And with those partisan blinders on, questioning your underlying premises is fair game.

Clear enough, boy?

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A friend of his set up a go fund me page! The out pour of love and support from the world has helped this kid raise more than his 2,000 goal. Right now it is around 60,000! This money has been raised to support his living expenses to get him started but people have continued to give far beyond what they originally asked for because he no longer has a supportive family. Now he can use this money for college, housing, books, living expenses, and in the future. If you are interested in helping him even more you too can donate. I donated 25.00. Not much but every penny counts. The parents must be sick that their hate has helped inspire a whole new family for this kid from around the world to not only open their wallets but their hearts, homes and lives to this young adult! I hope he does well and FUCK HIS PARENTS! We will take him, love him, and give him the support every kid deserves. http://www.gofundme.com/dnoqgg
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http://www.gofundme.com/dnoqgg You can donate to Daniel here. A friend of his set it up for 2,000 for living expenses. He has raised almost 60,000.00 in less than 48 hours. We noticed it had gone way over what he had asked but this kid will never have parents to lean on for the rest of his life. Insurance, housing, education... So, we've continued to give. Much to the parents chagrin the horrible way their kid was treated by them inspired us to offer not only money but our hearts and homes to this kid! I wish I knew where they lived, I would picket their house and make them miserable!
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First, my heart goes out to this young man. My father disowned me also. No lose in my eyes. I have mentored some younger guys that have wrestled with telling their uneducated, God fearing family about their sexuality. I have told them all it isn't necessary. I have told them all, don't do it until you are on your own if you do. I have told them all to be prepared to lose their family. I have told them all, be prepared to face abuse and abandonment at the hands of people who said they loved you. I have told them all how the loss and darkness will eat at their self worth and make them contemplate suicide. I have told them all to get educated, make a great living and see the world...it really does get better. This is America 2014...its just 1950 with technology.
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@111:

There you go again, being hateful, vile and bile filled - or are you actually going to try to convince the rest of us your repeated use of the term "boy" above is NOT being used in a pejorative manner?

And you MUST care, at least a little, why else would you continue your paltry, impotent attempts to defend the indefensible?

Besides, if you're going to take the position that YOUR lies (which have been repeatedly and unequivocally demonstrated to BE lies) AREN'T lies, why should not everyone else be able to take a similar position? "What's good for the goose is good for the gander", as the saying goes.
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@111: Still confused, Seattleblues?

What you did was illegal and you are a liar.

Clear enough, Seattleblues?
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Has there been any comment from his parents? It took me less than 2 minutes to find his step mom's phone number posted on the internet. I'm sure she's getting some lovely calls.

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@117

post it or tell us how to find it
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@111: From the original thread where I called you out on that lie:
"I've called out Stranger journalists plenty of times. I criticize Savage for being too hard on theists. I get on Mudede's ass for gawdawful science reporting. I don't post about it much, but I agree that Kelly O. was being dumb as hell and honestly offensive by dressing in a costume that included blackface. So I guess what I'm saying is that it's not all about YOU, Princess."

I call people out when they lie. Your number comes up a lot for some reason. You can question my motives until the cows come home, eat dinner, head back out for drinks at their favorite bar, and come home again, but the fact of the matter is that you demanded that people face their consequences for civil disobedience but vehemently refused to do so yourself.
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It is very clear none of these individuals are Christians, there is not way they believe in the Word of God or love Jesus, the spirit in them is align with Satan. People who believe in the Word of God do not engage hate, judgment, physically assault anyone especially their son or grandson, Jesus lovers and believers of God and His sacred Word do not use HARD CORE PROFANITY, threaten anyone or do what these demonic people did to this human being, a young man who took a risk of faith to tell his truth and do the best he could to tolerate all of the abhorred treatment of his "family." God bless him.
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SeattleBlues is a disgusting Conservative troll who has nothing better to do than defend racist, violent cops and deny the existence of Homophobia (because he is, by definition, a homophobe.) Thankfully he will die sad and alone because why would anyone love a troll like him?
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@120: That was a lovely comment, thank you.
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I am so sad for that young man. Religion in America has become ugly. Far right politics and bigotry have invaded our churches. Please, what has happened to separation of church and state? Why can't that be enforced? Religion (with the help of the far right wing) is fueling this hatefulness. This ignorance. Where exactly does Jesus say to treat another human being like this man was treated? Isn't there enough radical religion doing harm in this world? The young man is as much a child of God as his ignorant (and hateful) parents.
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Repost/paraphrased: We are a financially secure middle-aged couple with children older than Daniel. We live in South Florida. We wish to speak out against the wrong done to this young man. We will stand behind our outrage with our love and generosity: We offer a home to this young man....right now. We will receive him with open arms, love and acceptance. If anyone knows how to contact him, and he needs a place to stay, please have him contact: wavesnmocean@gmail.com. We live in Palm Beach County. This is a real offer.
Pete and Suz
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Someone, I think "HandlebarWallace" said something about a website to help these kids fund a couch or bed ti sleep in. That is a fantastic idea. I need to look into this. Also, those who care to contact Daniel's "parents" (yeah his name is Daniel Ashkey Pierce) .can fi d there contact info in the comments on the lunk beliw. It has email snail mail, phone and twitter:

http://www.edgeonthenet.com/news/News/16…
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I think they should arrest the mother for domestic violence. And for those who think it's a choice, I tried to commit suicide when I was 15 because of it. For those who believe in a god that would bring gay people in this world and send them to hell because of it..that's not a God I believe in. I believe in a God of love and kindness. I wish people would open their brains and stop judging.
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It hurt my heart to hear what his Loving Family?, and I use those words loosely, were saying to Daniel in the video. The voices of the people we were hearing were his Stepmother, Father, Grandmother and Brother?. Daniel, if you do read this I would like you to know that those people that you refer to as Family have no understanding about what Love and Family mean! There are so many people out in the world that will love you for Who you are. I am a 19 year old Gay Male who came out to everyone at 14 and guess what, my family Loves and Supports everything that I do. My feelings and my feelings only Daniel, but I think that if you were to win the lottery the Creatures that call themselves your Grandmother, Father, Brother and Stepmother, would kick our Lord Jesus Christ to the curb and support you all the way to the Bank! Think of yourself as a very lucky man to have discovered who really loves you and who does not. Hugs Brother. Lucas
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I completely disagree with the way people are interpreting this video. It is true that the discussion escalated into violence. You could argue whether his parents should be sued for domestic violence. You could argue about religion and LGBT rights. However, this kid escalated the argument they parents had with him, it was not the other way around.

This 19 years old man was living under his parent house rules. They gave him 2 options and during the very 2 first minutes they were calm. In contrast, during these 2 first minutes he continuously interrupted his mother. He established the use of the word disownment, not his parents. He actually kick himself out, they didn't kick him out. He established a deadline for moving out. They didn't established a date. He is the one who said his parents will not see him ever again. Her mother did not want to scale the discussion as she actually said clearly that she would not argue science and God. Finally he escalated everything by establishing that everything that his father did during 19 years cannot be defined as raising a child. Then, and only then his mother went violent.

You treat this brat as a something to be proud of. There are several people of the LGBT community that represent very well the injustice they suffer every day. However, this kid is not a good example. Very sad.

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the moron mother FIRST said that he was gay since he was a baby. so she was admitting he had no choice..then she got mad at herself for saying that and then shortly after just simply contradicted herself so as to continue to play "power trumps" with the kid..then the moron father jumped in...and the kid is sacrificed to the parents' need to have people bow down to their own moronic self-contradicting barbarism.

low life types always resort to brute force.
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I wish I could be there to watch these pigs burn in hell. Totally disgusting...makes my blood pressure go through the roof. What assholes.
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If they call themselves Christians, they better realize what it stands for -LOVE
These parents are not parents. A true parent shows love to their child. I told my sons, I don't care who they fall in love with, as long as they are happy, and no one hurts them.
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Very interesting and impressive for me.
Good luck!

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