Not to nitpick Chaz, but "race of humans who are defined as black" is something of an error. There is only one human race - all humans can interbreed - but yes some human populations have different colors of skin than other populations. Just like sharks. And spiders. And Apes.
@7: "nude" underwear doesn't show through clothes in the way that wearing a black bra under a white blouse does. Maybe only women appreciate this as an issue.
Taking this a step further: there has been a lot of attention over the weekend about an African American woman who got arrested for sitting in the back of a car with her white boyfriend (because cops assumed any black woman doing that must be a hooker). Wearing underwear that shows under one's clothes, and draws the attention of white men to them, so cops can arrest them just for being stared at, is not something black women are lining up to do.
I might have been on @10's side for once if, anywhere in the post, linked story or comments to that point, there had been a single use of the term "African-American."
@10: I dunno. Maybe it's because the UK banned slavery a century before the US did. Maybe it's because racial prejudice isn't as pervasively ingrained in society in the UK as in the US. Maybe it's because the UK didn't depend on sales of a labor-intensive cash crop that made African slaves an intrinsic part of the economy, leading to the dismantling of their African culture as a way of suppressing slave revolts.
@13: Huh? Nowhere in the post does either of the phrases "[A]frican-[A]merican" or "[A]frican-[E]uropean" appear. Fred Casely is correct. You are going off on a tangent, especially as the US and the UK were explicitly mentioned and you now feel the need to compare demographics in the US to those in Europe AS A WHOLE.
Also, [citation needed] on your claim about women of color in the US and Europe.
@13: Leaving aside Charles's use of the term "black market", there are about 20 million black women in the US, and about 5 million in Europe. No one said anything about their relative prosperity. There are just 4 times as many potential customers for those products here than there.
@16, there's a lot more black women in Africa than in the North America and UK combined. Somehow, these nude bras marketed for darker skin tones weren't invented in Africa either.
@14) '...UK didn't depend on sales of a labor-intensive cash crop that made African slaves an intrinsic part of the economy'. Dead wrong. The UK textile market was the #1 consumer of U.S. slave-picked cotton. No other country was even a close second.
@18: The UK didn't depend on SALES of cotton, you knucklehead. They depended on PURCHASES of it. They weren't growing cotton; they were buying it. Now we can play semantics about how they would have been in trouble if the American cotton industry went under, but the fact of the matter is that the British economy wasn't dependent on having slaves as part of British society.
@21: Are you freaking kidding me? British society wasn't day-to-day dependent on the productivity of slaves? Who do you think produced the cotton that went into the textile mills that made them rich? Keebler elves? Before industrialization, all they had were their own serfs to exploit. American slavery was so, so, much more profitable. (Well, the other colonies worked out pretty well for them too.)
@6, I know, right? This doesn't seem like anything new. I myself am a White woman who owns several dark brown bras and panties, as well as beige, pink, blue, etc.
@3 You are thinking of species - not races. There are races of humans. Think of them as breeds - like pugs and dalmatians……..they can interbreed because they are all the same species with the same number of chromosomes.
Well I hope they have a completely plain version of the line because as lovely as those bras look on the women that floral print STILL isn't going to work under a white t-shirt.
#3 is right with "race". Inside the human species, there is currently but one race of humans, the homo sapiens sapiens.
The last time there were several races in the human species is when everybody but the ancestors of modern-day Africans co-lived and interbred in Europe with homo sapiens neanderthaliensis. The Neanderthals were another "race" or subspecies of humans. Nowadays there's none of them left, except in the DNA of non-African people.
I do find it ironic that the very same White Supremacists who hate miscegenation as in Blacks having kids with Whites, don't realize that they, and not the Black people, are actually the product of such miscegenation of our shared African ancestors, with Neanderthals.
As for what really a race (or more correctly, a subspecies) is :
Skin color alone does not a race make. Ask breeders. There are several colors of pugs (wikipedia : the breed has a fine, glossy coat that comes in a variety of colours, most often fawn or black). But all dogs are not all pugs.
Genetically, a "race" is defined by a subset of a species that has some characteristics that are less diverse among this subset than among the whole species. Pugs all look the same, whatever their color. There's no pug the size of a dalmatian or with a nose like a dalmatian.
In the human species, there's more statistical genetical variability between two random individuals inside the group customary called "Black people" than between two mean individuals of the groups "Black people" and "White people". So scientifically, "Black people" and "White people" are just differing skin colors, not differing races.
Same for other US-lingo-defined "races". For scientists, all current humans are just one race.
Yet still, the VPL transcends the color barrier.
In a detached, gay way.
But there wasn't. So I'm not.
It is interesting that the company that makes this line of lingerie is based in the UK and not the US, which has a much larger black market.
@13: Huh? Nowhere in the post does either of the phrases "[A]frican-[A]merican" or "[A]frican-[E]uropean" appear. Fred Casely is correct. You are going off on a tangent, especially as the US and the UK were explicitly mentioned and you now feel the need to compare demographics in the US to those in Europe AS A WHOLE.
Also, [citation needed] on your claim about women of color in the US and Europe.
(Please imagine me making vigorous side-to-side hand gestures after the fashion of Dr. Percival Cox while I am saying that.)
So owning an Apple product made in China is not a problem. Yippee! Liberals eat their own asses again!
#3 is right with "race". Inside the human species, there is currently but one race of humans, the homo sapiens sapiens.
The last time there were several races in the human species is when everybody but the ancestors of modern-day Africans co-lived and interbred in Europe with homo sapiens neanderthaliensis. The Neanderthals were another "race" or subspecies of humans. Nowadays there's none of them left, except in the DNA of non-African people.
I do find it ironic that the very same White Supremacists who hate miscegenation as in Blacks having kids with Whites, don't realize that they, and not the Black people, are actually the product of such miscegenation of our shared African ancestors, with Neanderthals.
Skin color alone does not a race make. Ask breeders. There are several colors of pugs (wikipedia : the breed has a fine, glossy coat that comes in a variety of colours, most often fawn or black). But all dogs are not all pugs.
Genetically, a "race" is defined by a subset of a species that has some characteristics that are less diverse among this subset than among the whole species. Pugs all look the same, whatever their color. There's no pug the size of a dalmatian or with a nose like a dalmatian.
In the human species, there's more statistical genetical variability between two random individuals inside the group customary called "Black people" than between two mean individuals of the groups "Black people" and "White people". So scientifically, "Black people" and "White people" are just differing skin colors, not differing races.
Same for other US-lingo-defined "races". For scientists, all current humans are just one race.
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