Sure, sure, swingers are super-eager to let everyone know they're swingers, and not at all interested in keeping it quiet.

That's why you see so many of them wearing "I'm a swinger, and I'm proud of it" T-Shirts, right?

Straight people are weird. Here in Gay-World we just ask someone we are interested "Hi, wanna fuck?" or "Hi, my boyfriend and I want to fuck you, interested?"

But this ring thing: it sounds just perfect for Seattle's passive- aggressive- indecisive lifestyle.

This brings to mind the Baconcat buttsex statistics - more straight people doing it than gay people. But gays are always the problem, of course.

@3 do you make an effort to figure out if the guy is gay before you ask if he wants to fuck?

Visible symbol, ~1968-1976 (U.S. market):

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-conten…

EricaP, many non homos fuck homos. Ask and you may receive. Or be received.

" I'd love to take it off, but I just haven't seen it.""

Maaaybe... it's because the ring is black and difficult to see? Is it nighttime? That could be the problem.

Anyway, if we're talking about a clandestine signal to others of a similar persuasion/interest/revolutionary activity/etc. it would seem that one wouldn't want to, you know, broadcast what that signal was, lest Swinger-o-phobes grasp on to it and use it against you. Somehow.

@5, why would I? Besides, I've had some really fun sex with guys who are "straight"

Ok, thanks for answering, @7 & @9.

My understanding is that swingers find like-minded people by going to venues where no one is surprised if you hit on them (swinger parties, hotel bars, nightclubs). Seems to work okay.

@1 has it exactly. People can pretend swinger's they don't exist or are rarer than they are because swinging is private at least and guardedly secret at most. Marriage is almost by definition public. When gays marry, they buy houses, mow the lawn, bring their kids to school, do all the same normal public stuff as other couples.

@5 I'm not sure I understand the question. But I'm pretty sure I've never had sex with a straight person.

@5 Haha, oops...I thought your question was for me, sorry.

I suppose Mr Savage was a little too young for mood rings.

I think I found the citation used.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/att…

"Furthermore, Blumstein and Schwartz (1983) found that extra-marital sexual activity in younger females had increased and was becoming more comparable to that of males. In contrast, Choi, Catania, Dolcini (1994), and Forste and Tanfer (1996), found that less than 4% of all married people in their sample had engaged in extra-marital sex. Their findings seem to be skewed in relation to prior research, which suggests possible methodology flaws such as sample bias."

That statistic must be too low, plenty of other studies show higher rates of extra-marital sex. But extra-marital sex hardly equates with swinging.

Lost me at "thumb rings are cool."

How about the statistics on how many people who wear black rings are actually swingers, or how many people who wear black rings are even aware that their rings have been cursed with this new meaning?

Stop trying to ruin black rings for people who don't want to be propositioned by gross thumb-ring-disfigured swingers.

To the sexphobes out there, swingers absolutely *are* a despised minority. And they do talk about them. All the time. But to do so, they don't have to even mention words like "swinger" or "non-monogamy". The only words they need are "cheating", "faithful", and the like. They don't talk about "swingers", because they don't acknowledge that honest, cooperative non-monogamy is even a real thing! They're just cheaters, pure and simple. Simple like the sexphobes' tiny little minds.

Oh, and P.S., Swingers comprise exactly 1.87% of the North American adult population.

You're welcome.

I wonder if the statistics include all non-monogamous people who are in at least one opposite-sex relationship, such as polyamorous or open relationships? Which aren't the same thing as swingers.

Great read - these are the rings referred to: http://www.itlrings.com