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The Mayor is really reaching here.
"But if the Arctic drilling fleet is actually being moored and repaired at Terminal 5, there could be significant and adverse impacts on the surrounding environment."

Unlike all of the ships that come here that dump their sewage, leak oil/fuel, need repair. They can use the terminal. But something that is just gonna sit there. Oh No, can't have that!

He's just trying top ensure his re-election. If he thinks that the rig being parked there will wreck the environment. Then he is a Stupid Man.
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Geeze, and I thought Murray was above the "DPD answers to me" position McGinn took with living wages (aka, Whole Foods isn't a UFCW member) as "public benefit" and alley vacations in West Seattle.
3
Props to Ed. Nice work.
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#1, 2010 called regarding your claim of sewage dumping at Terminal 5.
http://thetyee.ca/News/2010/08/17/Cruise…
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@4, I wasn't talking of T-5 specifically. Just Dumping in the General Terms. The Rig is just going to sit there. And get some work done on it so it can make the final part of it's journey and start work.
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#5, fair enough. Still, I'd argue the state has done the best it can regarding the sewage issue in general. And I'll freely admit that doesn't cover the oil, fuel, and various other fluids that do leak into the water when this kind of work is done.
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Turns out, in an investor conference this morning that most of the fracking "profits" are illusions based on bad accounting and a $90+ barrel price for oil. Most of this oil they plan to drill costs more to drill than they will actually make.
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But then I used to get oil firm annual reports when I was 10, so ...
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@6, True.
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"Roadblocks" don't work particularly well against ocean-going vessels.
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I think the Mayor's actions are representative of the values of the community we live in. Most people are sick of all the environmental and public health damage that has been inflicted on us because of big oil. Most people don't want Shell to be drilling for oil in the Arctic. Most people are worried about climate change. Most people would like to see more clean energy solutions rather than more of the same.

At least he is doing what he can to represent the people who elected him.

Kudos to the Mayor.
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The only problem with this is that it is symbolic.

They go to Tacoma, they go to Portland, they go to Vancouver. Someone lets them in.

Your only stance against that argument could be that this will snowball into oil tankers carrying crude into port.

Which really wouldn't happen.
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@12. Except someone has to stand up first. That mentality is a slippery slope. What if if the people of Tacoma, Portland and Vancouver see how this played out and insist on a similar outcome? Someone has to be the first to demand change in order to set things into motion, and any attitude that makes things a little bit more costly for oil vs. renewable resources isn't a step in vain.
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Thank you, Seattle Mayor Ed Murray!!!
Keep Shell Oil, BP, and Peabody Coal OUT!
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@15, Part II: ....and let's get rid of Big Oil and Big Coal lobbyists Ericksen and Baumgarter, too, preferably by way of industrial sized garbage bag, out of Olympia and Washington State.
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Hooray for the mayor! Keep fighting, Ed.
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Well #14, we could go nuclear until a disaster happens anywhere in the world, panic and take another route.

That happened, you know. Whole governments flipped their stance just like that.

We could go hydroelectric.

Erm...

Solar is looking more and more feasible for this region as time goes by, I'll give you that.

So, wind it is?

I mean, until solar works for us.

FYI, many of you environmental science majors will end up working in the energy industries.
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Hey Slog- can someone with a few years of WA Real Estate experience or law read the DPD Interpretation and weigh in if the contract is void or voidable?
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I'll believe that this is something other than the machinations of competing firms, rather than some do-goody good b.s. the day Seattle opens a hydrogen station.

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Yes!!! Block, delay, be a pain in the ass. Fight for the change we want to see. Thank you.
22
hmm, I wonder if its better to leave these behemoths floating, stateless on the open seas, like so many mosquitoes looking for a juicy vein to puncture, or corralling them some place and finding some clever legal way of refusing to let them exit?

Anyway, this doesn't stop ocean drilling altogether, but while we're waiting for that, it can make the drilling that is done about 95% safer. Food for thought: https://www.change.org/p/deep-sea-drilli…
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hmm, I wonder if its better to leave these behemoths floating, stateless on the open seas, like so many mosquitoes looking for a juicy vein to puncture, or corralling them some place and finding some clever legal way of refusing to let them exit?

Anyway, this doesn't stop ocean drilling altogether, but while we're waiting for that, signing and sharing can make the drilling that is done about 95% safer. Food for thought: https://www.change.org/p/deep-sea-drilli…
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deck chairs on the titanic

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