Take the poll:

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06…

This doesn't shock me in the least

Or maybe the wanted him to be able to quell his hunger pains so he could be coherent and answer their questions and confess. But you didn't think of that, did you Rich?

I think being fed is sort of a basic right for prisoners, even the most heinous ones. There's plenty of other sources for legitimate outrage.

Of the four cases cited in contrast to the treatment of Dylann Storm Roof, three involve outrageous and potentially criminal police conduct.

One is an egregious fabrication, laid bare in the DOJ report on the subject.

Do facts matter in this corner of the internets? And if they don't matter in this enlightened corner, why should they matter any more in the dark corners where Mr. Storm Roof acquired the fodder for his "manifesto"?

It's obvs a high profile case so all proper procedures will be adhered to so as not to "trip" up the case as it winds towards the electric chair.

@5 -- Precisely. If they didn't feed this kid, his lawyer would have some legal leverage that his basic rights were violated during questioning. And it's entirely possible that the local cops gave him Burger King because the local jail has no food-prep facility. It's not like they threw him a party. They fed a prisoner, which is what civilized societies do.

Ummmm.... They give you cheap baloney sandwiches when you get to jail. That's good enough. Fucking chicken tender sandwich for a mass killer? Maybe the question of treatment isn't really that far off base.

@5 Is being belted in so you don't fly around and break your spine a basic right of prisoners?

@6:

So, murdering nine innocent people earns him a fucking Cheeseburger and fries, while all those other people got - wait, it's right on the tip of my tongue. Wonder if they asked him if he'd like a Coke with that.

@13 -- WTF?

@5: /thread

@3, et al. Man, the stupid is epic on this one. The post is about how cops treat non-whites. They sure as hell don't buy them fucking BK. Sometimes, they don't even have to be the perps. Cops have shot the very people that called them. Or who were just sleeping in their own apartments.

The inference, which isn't too hard to get, is that cops see anyone who isn't white as a threat no matter what it is that they're doing.. They didn't see Roof as a threat because they know him. They work with guys like him on a daily basis. He's okay, he won't do anything. We don't even have to break a sweat arresting him. Now, that black teenage girl in the bikini... FUCK! Draw your weapon NOW!!! She's only armed with a towel, but who knows what she's capable of doing with it? Could take out the entire police force at once.

Wow! If I shoot some folks on an empty stomach, can I get a double cheeseburger and diet coke?

I'm a little concerned about this exchange with the murderer...
Officer [redacted]: How's the burger, is it cooked to your liking?
Suspect Roof:
Officer [redacted]: Is there anything else we can get for you? ...we want you to be comfortable so that you'll maybe be inclined to give the Shelby Po-lice a good Yelp review!
Suspect Roof: I want a large Pizza Hut meat lover's pizza, a McDonald's strawberry shake and 2 large Arby's curly-q fires.
Officer [redacted]: OK! ...It might take a little bit for the Arby's 'cause their near the freeway outside of town ...will that be alright?
Suspect Roof:
Officer [redacted]: (returns with meal for suspect Roof) Here you go! I hope it's still warm!
Suspect Roof:
Officer [redacted]: Now son, I gotta ask you, this is serious ...did you shoot those nigs?
Suspect Roof: Yeah.
Officer [redacted]: Good boy. (chuckles) I guess Obama didn't get your guns!
Suspect Roof: No sir he did not!
Officer [redacted]: Please let me know if we can do anything else to make your stay with us more pleasant!
Suspect Roof:

@16: Aren't there more substantive issues that can serve get your outrage fix?

Or it is a tactic to keep the subject talking. You people need to watch the wire!
https://youtu.be/0qBPK4wpZpw

Lol. Thank you, @20. (I'm thinking everyone on Slog watched the Wire).

Raindrop, precious, the point isn't that Roof didn't deserve the opportunity to choke to death on a Whopper. The point is that the pigs treated this animal like a human being while they treat people of color like animals.

@22: A bologna sandwich made with Wonder Bread, Velveeta, and Miracle Whip would have been more fitting, but perhaps it was just easier to walk across the street to the Burger King.

No need for extrapolating from essentially simple practicality.

As someone who has been thrown on jail on a number of occasions, I can assure you that the standard move is hitting a fast food joint to feed prisoners that are held for long periods of time before being transferred to an actual prison. Precincts don't keep "baloney sandwiches" around for prisoners.

Standard operating procedure. This is an astoundingly stupid post and y'all are dumb.

@24:

If you're thrown "on jail" do you have, like, a rooftop view up there?

@23, "A bologna sandwich made with Wonder Bread, Velveeta, and Miracle Whip would have been more fitting"

Ohhhh myyyyy! Look at Raindrop making fun of the White trash with which he keeps such close company. Is that the (tiny insignificant) gay part of your brain yearning to breathe free?

Do the Shelbyville cops get a dividend from Burger King for getting it free publicity?

@26 - OK, let's change it to sushi California roll then.

people are stupid and I'm not talking about the police who fed the criminal.

What? A race baiting article is causing racist statements by brainless masses? GTFO!

I think the media is making a feeding frenzy of all these shootings. Lets not forget people can also be discriminated against because of their background not their color. Example. I got a friend who is married to a woman with cerebral palsy (shes white) and they had 2 kids together they went to the welfare department to get help because he had lost his job. One of the questions that was asked while they were there is if their kids were adopted. The caseworkers whole attitude changed. It was how dare he have sex with a cripple. She is a good mother. Just saying discrimination isnt always racist. It can be because of a disability, being poor, having acne. I myself was picked on in school for being poor. Discrimination in any form--racist, disability, being poor any reason is uncalled for and stupid. Like we all are different colors discrimination also comes in many forms. just saying. There is good and bad in everybody black, white, hispanic, evil always exists in some of us and you can be the most beautiful looking person in the world but have an evil heart.

this is such a NON STORY!!!! prisoners are fed every day. BFD if they got him BK. As much of a piece of crap this moron is, food IS a basic right while being held.

This is one of the most stupid things I've ever read. Those same people that are hollering about feeding this guy a hamburger are probably the same ones that would scream if the cops starved him death. There is no racial issue in giving him a hamburger, it's called doing what's right. Roof is a despicable character and I hope he fries for the atrocities that he did. But right now, we are a civilized people and we still treat people decently whether they deserve it or not. What other cops did in other situations has no bearing on this at all NONE NONE NONE. Argue about something that is worth arguing about.

And once again the media is blaming all police officers for the actions of a few.

They just got him something to eat. Its not like they rolled out the red carpet as he was trucked into jail. He will be dealt with....in this life AND the next!!!

if only those that were asking to breathe, not be shot etc, had listened to police commands in the first place. Breathe easy, obey the law.

I suppose the cops could have shot and killed Roof, or choked him to death instead of arresting him. I guess that would make some people feel better, like the "score" has been evened up a bit.

But that is not really justice, is it? I applaud the restraint of the SC police force for not brutalizing and killing the man, and I wish other police officers we have seen brutalizing and killing suspects would follow their example.

Roof being killed may have made some of us feel better, but that is a primitive and barbaric emotion that we as a society should attempt to excise.

DQ is almost next door! Shoulda just stopped for ice cream for the lil fella too! Basic right? screw basic rights, he didnt give those innocent ppl he shot any "rights" but to take a bullet. He shoulda had the same fate. 1 bullet to the head for Mr. Roof and save the tax payers alot of money on this clown.

THIS IS STANDARD I'm a news reporter and I work with our city's police and county sheriff offices a lot and they have to feed their prisoners when they're being transported. I've seen them stop into McDonalds a dozen times to get fast food so they can get moving. Is this website going to publish an article that says "Police Let Prisoner Brush Teeth 16 Hours After Arrested"

Cops are not judge or jury even when they know the party is guilty.
Persons under arrest are legally required to be fed, stop making this something it's not.

I know in Maryland, some cops do that as an interrogation tactic as part of their investigation. Butter up the perp so to speak so they'll talk more. They needed to get a confession and see if he was working with any other hate groups or if anyone else was involved. They also needed DNA evidence which can easily be obtained from a burger wrapper or soda cup. Hopefully that was the reason they did this!

Oh PLEASE....this is done ALL the time, ALL across the country.

And if they didn't give him food, there would be outrage.

Basic human rights....even though he's an 'animal'.

You are all comparing all police officers together.....not fair or correct.....did anyone see the small police station where he was taken to...I don't believe they had any food prep going on there. Burger King may have been the only thing in town and true it doesn't seem right but the need to keep the prisoner talking was I am sure the main objective. I am sure if the person was someone of color the same thing would have happened. You don't want to give the lawyer any ammo to help this piece of trash.....besides I don't see him getting out to go through a drive thru at all the rest of his life !!!

Did you guys just miss the comment at @16?

The point is not that the cop bought fast food for the mass murderer in custody.

The point is that the cops should treat non-white people, including suspects in custody, in the same manner. Their gentle treatment of this particular killer goes to prove that they know perfectly well how to grant an accused criminal his constitutional rights to things like a fair trial.

It's hilarious that many are claiming how he got such a "good" meal. Last time I checked, Burger King is an absolute rock gut place to eat. It's fast food for sakes. Some of you are acting like the got him a 12 oz NY Strip from Ruth's Chris.

@40:

You don't read much news, do you? The fact that this piece of shit got to BE arrested and given a hamburger to calm his grumbly widdle tum-tum, while other people who have done absolutely NOTHING, people the same color in fact as those he murdered in cold blood, frequently don't even survive to the handcuffing stage, is pretty much the entire point.

Also, this.

http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/22/dylann-ro…

This story is false. Fact check much or did you just want to race-bait?

This tactic is used to get the shooter comfortable in trusting the police. Also the police need to make sure there was no one else involved. Feeding him is no big deal, but finding out he was a lone shooter is priority. I don't want this leech to get off for any reason, and I mean a lighter sentence because the police mistreated him. He'll get his.

did they spit in the burger?

MAYBE, (and by maybe I mean they ARE NOT) the same cops that dealt with ANY of the situations that you mentioned. And maybe, you shouldn't categorize every cop the same. Nobody wants to be stereotyped, but everybody wants to stereotype cops. The hypocrisy is astounding!

If only liberal bigots would practice what they preach about prejudices, stereotypes and hate with respect to all groups of people including cops.

@52, 53:

When GOOD cops stop covering for BAD cops, THEN we'll stop generalizing about ALL cops.

The point is that people of colour -- including ones who have done NOTHING WRONG -- aren't afforded the same respect of basic human rights that police routinely show murderers like this fucker.

Are people intentionally misunderstanding this?

And why?

OF COURSE, all of those who are deliberately making this also a racial incident, stating the white prisoners get treated better, are way off base because you have absolutely no knowledge on how these particular police treat prisoners of other races, colors, etc. You are trying to create more hatred on top of this situation and that is exactly what is wrong with the world. Stop being part of the problem and try being part of the solution for once.

great piece of yellow journalism Rich, learn that at j-school?

Please pay attention to @49, this is a bullshit story.

http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/22/dylann-ro…
http://bit.ly/1BzcioV

Either way this is stupid.

Yes these are all important things. Yes they need to be addressed. Yes it is OK to get outraged about these things. At the risk of tone-policing I personally think writing this kind of thing is completely unhelpful and alienates potential allies because they rolled their eyes so hard they fell out of their head and now they're blind.

@56:

We don't have to "deliberately" make this a racial incident - it became a racial incident from the very moment when this POS walked into a church with the intention of gunning down nine innocent people.

But hey, thanks for your contribution to the "solution": whinging about what others say about cops who treat a racist murderer of black people with more respect and deference than cops treat innocent black people who've hurt no one.

@59

How many interactions do you think police have with citizens on a daily basis? I would argue probably hundreds of thousands. Lets do some math. If every county has 10 officers working a day (and most have 100s of officers a day, but for the sake or argument we will use low numbers), and every state has 100 counties and there are 50 states. Let's say each officer has 2 encounters with the publc (very low estimate) each day. After 30 days, there have been 3,000,000 encounters (from arrest, to just saying hey, to responding to calls) 3,000,000 interactions a month which would equate to 36,000,000 interactions in a year, and most of you will judge cops as a whole by what, the 1000 incidents that make national news each year? BTW my numbers are ridiculously low so maybe you should consider that of those 36 MILLION interactions, police are doing their jobs professionally and treating those of ALL races with respect. And yes I know that some things don't make the news. So lets say that we only see 10 percent of what goes on with "bad" cops. Then that would still only be 10,000 out of 36,000,000 interactions that are bad. I'd say that your police department probably isn't as crooked as you would like to think.

@58:

No, it's NOT a bullshit story, it has in fact been confirmed by the Shelby, NC Chief of Police Jeff Ledford. What's happened is that some people have misconstrued "cops BOUGHT Roof some Burger King" with "cops TOOK Roof to Burger King", which is specifically what the Snopes entry addresses, if you'd bothered to actually read it.

And yeah, it's soooo stupid pointing out the blatant double-standard in this country where a white supremacist who murders nine black people in cold blood gets treated with kid-gloves, while day after day after day after day, scores of innocent black people who have done absolutely no harm to anyone are gunned down BY police before THEY get a chance to order a Whopper and Seasoned Curly Fries from the back seat of a patrol car.

@60:

So, 10,000 "bad interactions" out of however many total interactions a year is acceptable to you, particularly when they result in innocent lives being taken for no good reason? If the U.S. Postal Service operated at that level of inefficiency people would be demanding the resignation of the Postmaster General. But hey, when it's just some black people getting shot, so no big deal. These things happen, you know.

Oh and at @61

I know of a young black man who committed a heinous crime (not nearly as bad as killing 9 people) and was taken by police to McDonalds where he was able to order anything he wanted off the menu. All this because he told the cop he was so hungry because he hadn't ate the whole day. He robbed a store at gunpoint and pistol whipped the 65 year old owner of the store before leaving. But you don't hear about that because the news didn't find it worthy.

@62

You're twisting my words and you know it. I didn't say that 10,000 innocent black people were being gunned down. I said bad interactions, which does not necessarily constitute a lethal encounter.

And I think the post office has less strenuous conditions that they work under!

@64:

I didn't claim 10,000 innocent black people were gunned down, I was merely including those who HAVE been gunned down among your 10,000 "bad interactions". But hey, what if it's only a few hundred? Or only 50? That's not too many, right?

@61 You must be a professional troll, because you accused me of poor reading comprehension, then failed to read my post to the end.

Oh shit I got trolled hard.

@66

Nobody wants to "gun down" an innocent person, but believe it or not (and this is going to blow your mind) cops are people too! People make mistakes. It sucks and I wish it didn't happen but it is what it is. You cant hire enough people to patrol the streets of any area and expect them all to work with a 100% accuracy and never make a mistake. I get it, its terrible and I don't argue that its "OK". But you can train officers everyday and make them the most proficient police officer on the planet and somebody is still going to make a mistake because cops are still human. Doctors screw up all the time, malpractice happens constantly but you don't hear the country acting a fool every time a doctor leaves an implement inside someone, or forgets to run a test that would have saved some ones life. MISTAKES happen and they are sometimes ugly. I challenge you, if you believe that you could handle EVERY stressful situation that cops deal with day to day WITHOUT ever screwing up, please go to your local police academy and become a police officer. My argument is simply if tens of millions of interactions are happening every year with police officers and citizens and the HUGE majority of them are peaceful and civil, then maybe the police as a whole aren't as bad as you think they are. I have never met a cop that went to work with a desire to kill someone, but shitty situations develop quickly and you are asking humans to make decisions at superhuman speeds. Unfortunately with those kinds of demands, eventually someone will fail.

@66

"2-year-old dies after being left in hot car when dad passed out drinking on Father's Day." That's what popped up in my news feed after I signed onto Facebook, just now. Where are the protest, where is the national outrage. Where are the people claiming that a couple hundred parents are terrible, so it must mean ALL parents are terrible.

@67:

I did read your comment to the end - it says nothing relevant to the Snipes article to which you linked, so what's your point?

@68:

Yes, people make mistakes, even cops. But so many of these "mistakes" turn out to NOT be mistakes, but instead the result of blind prejudice, incompetence, dereliction of duty, compounded by a "protect our own" mentality that causes even "good cops" to cover for the inexcusable actions of their "bad cop" brethren by obfuscation, and all too frequently outright falsification. That's not a "mistake", that's a culture of willful, institutional duplicity. We're supposed to hold those who presumably protect our lives and property to a higher standard than that. Doctors can at least be sued for malpractice; cops on the other hand apparently can shoot innocent people with impunity, claim they "feared for their life", falsify testimony, plant evidence, perjure themselves on the witness stand - and get away with it, all with the help of their fellow officers who all-too-frequently turn a blind eye in an effort to stay on their side of that "thin blue line". So long as the "good cops" continue to cover for the "bad cops" in their midst, continue to adhere to an "us against them" mentality when it comes to the public in general, and persist in not taking active steps to root out the corrupt, the racists, the bigots among them - there's really not much appreciable difference between them, so far as I'm concerned.

@69:

And he's been charged with murder and child neglect - so justice is proceeding apace. But, I guess the relevant question is: did the police ask him if he was hungry and would he like for them to fetch him a cheeseburger before they carted him away to lockup?

@70

You talk about good cops covering bad actions? Where is your proof of all this corruption? Oh wait, you've seen it in a few situations so it must happen everywhere, every time! You don't know if these officers were in fear or not. But you CHOOSE not to believe them because it doesn't fit the narrative that you want. I don't know these things either. But everyone of these high profile cases usually ends with at bare minimum the cop losing his job, or having to quit (regardless of whether he/she was justified). I won't cover for a bad cop, the SC shooting at the gas station. That shit was just plain wrong and I am glad he was arrested. But you assume you know how the cop was feeling and you assume you have ALL the information, because the media has told you what you "need" to know. You claim justice is being served with that POS father, but when a cop is arrested, you have already branded the justice system a failure. What if this father is found not guilty? Do you think there will be protest? Do you think there will be a demand for justice? NO!!
And cops aren't on one side of the "thin blue line." They are the thin blue line that separates the citizens from the scum in this world! And apparently they do a decent job. The minute every cop in Baltimore began worrying they would be arrested or fired for any mistakes. What did they do? They stopped actively policing and what did the community scream? "We don't see the cops, they aren't doing anything, crime is going through the roof!" Despite what you think, cops aren't going around just shooting innocent folks for the hell of it. But that is the narrative you choose to believe regardless of what facts are presented. Has a cop shot someone out of pure malice before? YES, it has happened, and probably a couple times. Have other officers covered for bad behaior? YES, probably a few. Does that mean that every cop in the country is doing this? NO, not even remotely close to a majority. Again, if you can do it better, I plead to you to go an serve your community.

And who knows if they got that POS father food? I promise you if they did, we will never hear about it, because it doesn't fit the hate mongering of people like the guy who wrote this article.

@70: "And yeah, it's soooo stupid pointing out the blatant double-standard in this country where a white supremacist who murders nine black people in cold blood gets treated with kid-gloves, while day after day after day after day, scores of innocent black people who have done absolutely no harm to anyone are gunned down BY police before THEY get a chance to order a Whopper and Seasoned Curly Fries from the back seat of a patrol car. "

@58 "Yes these are all important things. Yes they need to be addressed. Yes it is OK to get outraged about these things."

Jackass

@72

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphoto…

But that doesn't fit your argument does it? Move along!

I'm guessing it was before they charged him officially and while they were getting a full confession out of him, just like any serious mass murdering criminal after they are arrested. He won't be getting Burger King now...

https://www.aclu.org/fighting-police-abu…

so little police abuse the aclu wrote a manual on how to work to reduce it.

i don't really get why people are upset that the mass shooter got burger king. burger king ain't that great

@71 "Has a cop shot someone out of pure malice before? YES, it has happened, and probably a couple times. Have other officers covered for bad behaior? YES, probably a few."

way to overstate things.

@76

Until you have facts to back up your implication that tons of cops are rampaging around just killing people for the hell of it, I will dismiss your post as uninformed babbling.

@77 PROBABLY uninformed babble

lets look literally at your language (like my alliteration?)

to make the math easy lets say the avg weight of a cop is 200 lbs. if 10 cops kill people there's a ton of cops, if 20 cops kill people there are 2 tons of cops.

there are probably tons of cops rampaging around killing people for the hell of it

@ comte lololololol so much butthurt.

80 comments about a fucking BK Wopper? Oh please. Just stop.

@73 If I want poor reading comprehension, racism and comments apropos of nothing I'll go to 4chan. Feel free to join me there because I think you'd be right at home.

@82

I couldn't figure out what you were talking about and then I saw the typo. My original post should have been addressed to @70.

http://www.vice.com/read/an-ex-baltimore…

They should have taken him to Arby's instead. That'd fix the little bastard.

Hi. I was a Brooklyn, NY uniform cop and investigator during the period of American history when Shawn JayZ Carter raps about selling poison to his neighbors and describes other anti-social activities he engaged in that caused peaceful people in his neighborhood to fear for the personal and family's safety 24/7.

When I arrested a person, depending on the situation, after cuffing them, I almost always informed my prisoner, "My friend, act like a gentleman, and you'll be treated like a gentleman (or lady)."

This promise/admonishment included purchasing a soda, chips, or other nourishment that was within reason. If my prisoner acted like a gentleman or lady, I had no problem making a trip to the fast food restaurant across from the Brooklyn booking facility on Tillary St. Sometimes they paid, sometimes I paid.

Not really a biggie to my wallet because I was usually on overtime when processing a prisoner.

There are many reason I purchased food for prisoners, one reason was to show them I am human too.

Though the most important reason was that I viewed each civilian I came in contact with, arrested or not, as a potential wealth of information I might be offered access to if I treated the person the way I expected to be treated by another person, with respect.

It did not matter if I chased him or her for a few blocks and ended up using physical force to defend myself while capturing my prisoner, it did not matter if they were an alleged rapist of children, or mass murderer.

It was not my job to punish or shame a prisoner, it was my job to gather intelligence info that could help solve criminal cases. Whether or not I detested the acts he or she was alleged to have committed, whether or not I liked the person I arrested, treating a person with respect is the first step toward gaining their trust and giving them a reason to open up about activities they may have knowledge of. They may not open up immediately, but sometime in the future if they need to talk to a cop, they know they can trust me to treat them fairly.

Plus, in police work sometimes cops finds comfort in the small things, like arresting a person who tried to harm me and expressed a hatred for me, yet a few hours later when I am lodging him in a cell prior to arraignment, he is now thanking me for being cool and treating him with respect.

Another thing that inspired me to feed my prisoner, was knowing many of the people I arrested were victims of horrific child abuse who often were not fed or shown respect by their parents or caregivers.

I often hated the harmful anti-social acts my teen and adult prisoners committed against their peaceful neighbors.

Though my anger was tempered by day after day of witnessing the child abuse and neglect many kids who mature into depressed adults had to deal with, I understood why their brains were corrupted and they lacked empathy and compassion for their peaceful neighbors.

Feeding a hungry belly, offering respect to a person who feels disrespected by everyone, including their caregivers, was my way of coping with the emotional trauma I experienced from witnessing much of the horrible human drama I regularly encountered. It kept me feeling human in a community plagued by inhumanity toward developing children.

#protect-kids-from-irresponsible-caregivers

how many people did you feed that you didn't put in handcuffs?

@81 If people would have just stayed over in the dog-in-the-supermarket thread this wouldn't have happened

@Avery Jarnman is a liar and probably a racist.

Police in NY were as bad in the late 90s as they are today. Amadou Diallo didnt get 44 bullet holes for complying with police orders and 'acting like a gentleman'.

And I literally know cops who will admit that racist peers are a significant, if not a majority, aspect of modern policing.