Up Early for the Supreme Court—Marriage Decision Could Come Today or Monday


SO happy for you and Terry and every other gay couple, and for all of us!
JMG is reporting we won!
Aw, poor Scalia.
I wanted a live stream of Andrew Sullivan's face instead.
A total of 36 states now permit gay couples to get married, covering roughly 70 percent of the US population. Today's ruling means the bans must end in the other 14 states -- Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee and Texas.
congrats to all my LGBTQ peeps...rainbow flags and sparkle unicorns for all!
Best Pride Weekend Ever. YES!!!
Rick Santorum and Antonin Scalia, please report to City Hall for your mandatory gay marriage.
This is a wonderful decision, but the frosting on the cake is all these bitter, bitter, right wingers out there who are trying to sound smart about the constitution.
This Pride weekend is gonna be hard to top...
congrats with catching up with us 14 years late ;-)
nah, a sincere happy congratulations to everyone, enjoy pride weekend, i'm sure this will be one to remember!
YES!!! The Supreme Court has ended on a high note this term. Congrats to all of those who can finally get married now throughout this country. I assume the next step would be to add sexual orientation to federal anti-discrimination legislation.
This has been a great week, and this caps it. My love and congrulations to all who want to marry.
Great day for all America. So glad that Washington State was part of the journey, showing that legislators AND voters were united in support of equality.
Wow! Read this, too. The first openly gay active pro baseball player.

SONOMA, Calif. (AP) — Baseball history was made in Northern California when the sport's first active professional player to come out as gay pitched a shutout before an enthusiastic crowd that seemed more impressed with his performance than his role as a pioneer.
When does the suicide watch for seattleblues start?

(I realize this makes me a small person. It's possible that I don't care.)
The biggest sigh of relief is probably coming from RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.
I'm almost woozy with relief. I had hoped for a win, of course, but didn't dare let myself get too hopeful. After being the brunt of decades of bigotry, I well knew the possibility of another devastating setback.

Congratulations America. You've now caught up with Uruguay.
This is the best news all year!!!

All over the country, walls are splattered with the exploded brains of religious blowhards.
What a wonderful day!
You should check out Roberts' dissent. He congratulates people on their victory and basically comes out in favor of SSM. He just disagrees on the Constitutional law issues. So, on principle, this was 6-3.
Wow, this appears to be the most decisive, powerful ruling for which we dared to hope. Congrats and hugz all around.
So happy for Jim Obergefell and all the other plaintiffs in this case and the millions of gays and lesbians in Ohio, Kentucky , Michigan and elsewhere who are now free to marry and be recognized. Cincinnati's pride parade will be off the hook tomorrow!!
Is Bill Savage Dan's brother? And he lives in Rogers Park?
I love that neighborhood, lived there for a few months.
Flats and Sharps Music Store on the main drag near the lake.
And a Frank Lloyd Wright house up a few blocks. Cool Cool stuff.
Bill, hang out at the library on Clark St. awhile for me, would ya?
I notice that raindrop has commented twice now without expressing any support for the decision.

I knew this day was coming but most of me never really believed it. And here we are. It's beautiful and sunny outside, and the sun has finally broken out from behind the clouds all over America. I hear they're issuing licenses in Missouri and Mississippi and South Carolina. It's a good day. God bless America.
@24: I'd rather think of it as all over the country the brains of religious blowhards are having to do a lot of soul searching and reflection.
@31. Yay Fnarf!! Yay America!

Today is a good day.
Could almost makes one unreservedly proud of the states. Well done 5 outta 4! Too late, but not too little.
Hooray!! And just in time for the festivities.

And Dan - Thank You. On a Macro and Micro level your humane (and funny) arguments for equality have had a huge impact. I do think it is fair to say you have been our most prominent national civil rights advocate in this area for at least a decade.

And over two decades ago, when you first started writing your differently named column in The Stranger, I was this straight grad student at the UW who wasn't really politicized on the issue. I recall vividly that I became a staunch advocate largely due to the logic of your writing. And I raised my girls in that environment.

Now that my big girl, with her girlfriend of three years, is celebrating pride in SF this weekend, I can also be proud of being on the right side of history since before she was born.

Thank you. You helped me with that. Now stop making me cry... ;)
@21 - The whole of the GOP has been saved from themselves by the SCOTUS this week...dog that caught the car indeed!
Scalia is losing his marbles. His dissent includes "one would think that Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie".
A friend of mine says that he thinks Scalia writes all of his dissents at 2 AM, pants around his ankles, on his fifth cognac. His clerks fix the spelling and grammar the next day.
But it's still legal in some states for an employer to discriminate against and fire someone based solely on their newly legal same sex marriage, right? A few baby steps left to go.
@42, Mrs. Fnarf's first comment watching Obama's speech: "yoo hoo! Next we're going to get the Equal Rights Amendment, right?" There are many many steps left to go. The road is long. But we're on the right road.
Wheee! And today is my 40th birthday! A fine B-day gift, even if I'm hetero and married already and in a progressive state!
@44, get out of my head! My birthday too, and I am also hetero, married and in a progressive state!

I'm so happy for everyone whose lives will be made better by this ruling. I'm so happy that this happened in my lifetime, and I got to see it and share it. This is worth more than gold.

Now, what do I do with that "=" sticker on the back of my car? It did its job.
SCOTUS has made it quite dusty in my office. Congrats to everyone! Hurrah for love!!!
@39, 40: I know, right? The only thing missing from his dissent was "and get off my lawn" at the end. He sounds like the crazy uncle that watches Fox News and forwards emails, and not at all like a Supreme Court justice.
Mike Huckabee is making a complete fool of himself today, professing his ignorance of how his government and the laws of nature work.


Fuck yeah!
@21: You got that right. Besides gay people, the big winners here are Republicans who are tired of the "we are bigoted against gays" plank dragging down the whole platform.

Now they just need to remove the "we are bigoted against anyone not rich, male and white" plank, and we can make some progress as a nation.

Must be a day that ends in "y."
Decades from now we will remember this as the week the United States of America was finally dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 21st Century. Let us continue to remember the sacrifices of those who shed blood, sweat, toil, and tears to get us to this moment.

I have now lived through two of the most momentous events in our Nation's - and indeed the world's - history: the first footprints made by humans on the moon, and now this. Congratulations and mazel tov to my LGBT brothers and sisters - enjoy your weekend! But, as others above have noted, there's still more to do.

"The time has come. You are all fabulous creatures, each and every one. And I bless you: more life. The great work begins..."
Over and over again, once the religious objections are removed, no rational objection remains -- even Roberts gets this.

@40: Now it's just matter of time before we're allowed to marry hamsters and telephone poles. And how long before poly triads and quads (etc.) can get married?
I don't want to marry my hamster. We're fine with a poly relationship. Telephone poles, YKIOKIJNMK.
Woohoo! Now everyone has the opportunity to be miserable!
This is just awesome. Love has won out. And so has the Constitution.
Congratulations to your country! What a good day.

I wish I could be proud of my country more often. But I'll happily take things like this any day.
America has chosen the side of love, of honor, of respect, and basic human decency.
DawginExile @37 made me cry.

And Fnarf/Mrs. Fnarf: http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2…
married my husband 6 years ago ( tomoorow in fact.. ..happy anniversary baby, got you on my miiiiiind ) but didn;t really think THIS would happen.
From the ruling, answering Scalia soundly:

"That is not to say the right to marry is less meaningful for those who do not or cannot have children. An ability, desire, or promise to procreate is not and has not been a prerequisite for a valid marriage in any State. In light of precedent protecting the right of a married couple not to procreate, it cannot be said the Court or the States have conditioned the right to marry on the capacity or commitment to procreate. The constitutional marriage right has many aspects, of which childbearing is only one."
Taking a break from binge-listening to all the coverage of this wonderful decision. And like Dan, Justice Kennedy's ruling is making me cry for joy. This is a great day!

Happy Pride Everybody!
@60) COMTE quoting the end of Angels in America by Tony Kushner got me!

A slightly longer quote:

"This disease will be the end of many of us, but not nearly all, and the dead will be commemorated and will struggle on with the living, and we are not going away. We won't die secret deaths anymore. The world only spins forward. We will be citizens. The time has come.
Bye now.
You are fabulous creatures, each and every one.
And I bless you: More Life.
The Great Work Begins.


Please remember in your revels those of us who didn't make it to this AMAZING point of our shared history.

Dang! That guy is cutting onions again...
Woohoo, and only ten years after Canada did it.

~♥~Happy Pride everyone~♥~
When I was a gay activist in the 80's, I never thought this would happen in my lifetime. And yet it has! My heart is singing.
Beautiful beautiful day--and thank you, Dan Savage, for being such a prominent and effective voice for equality over the years. I truly believe your work made this day come sooner than we ever expected.
This is a happy day.
A few months ago, Slate had a list of the best 25 podcasts ever, and Savage Love episode 109 from 2008 came in at #14. I'm on it--the straight caller who reminds Dan that the fight for marriage equality is not only being fought by gays, and saying that what needs to happen, what I know will happen is that this issue will go to the Supreme Court as a Fourteenth Amendment case where it will surely win.
And here we are, at that day.
My heart is so light.
Im sure The Pride March and parties this weekend are going to be goddamn awesome..
At bloody last..Congratulations.
Now for Australia.
I don't listen to podcasts, but I think I will have to listen to that one just because you called in.
70: seatakled, I'm not at my most eloquent (talking into a voicemail always makes me nervous), but the call is at 26:34 if you don't want to have to listen to the earlier part of the podcast.
@55/originalcinner - wait, it's your birthday, you're straight, you're married, AND you're poly? OK, now this is getting a little weird...
Nocute @71, I just listened. Very cool to hear your voice! A wonderful message, too.
@73: Thanks, The Zoo!
That's a good voicemail--on the fly, perhaps, but thoughtful, eloquent, passionate.
I've been reading and occasionally commenting on here for awhile. I don't have any friends who are LGBTQ+ (for some reason they don't flock to software engineering circles) so I'll say my congratulations here. It's been a great week!
Congratulations ! The sook that I am I tear up at every wedding I attend. People committing to making a life together gets me every time. So grateful for this step closer to equality in the U.S. May we continue to strive together for the betterment of all, but for now champagne ! Cheers !
I'm trying to listen Nocute. Got to the smelly dick guy and remembered I hadn't had breakfast.
By the way, that "=" still needs to shine. We need ENDA passed ! Our Trans citizen still have a long journey for equality. And so much more. Celebrate, hell yes ! And, push on for the Arc of Justice is now more in reach! Kind regards, Slog
Well predicted, Ms Cute.

I do feel a little sorry for Mrs Clinton. She wanted both the issue and a chunk of the credit; to give her her due, she comes closer to really getting non-hetero issues than either Mr C or Mr O.

I hope Ms Ginsburg has other driving causes to keep her going.

While I'll admit to thinking that most of my friends can do better than marriage, it will be a comfort to think that those that do will do so by choice.

Most of all, I wonder about the fate of a little ring I bought about twenty-four years ago - what happened to it, and what it would mean now. In the memory of one who was far better than I deserved, I'll hold off on FMA predictions until after the US Open.
Thanks, seatackled.
Mr. Ven, I think the reason that Ms. Clinton "gets" non-hetero issues better than her husband is because so much time has passed.
@80: Kim in Portland: Good to see you here. Have a whiskey and celebrate for me, please.
@ 83: NoCuteName, Cheers, dear ! *clinks glass*
Yes, welcome back Kim - it's nice to see some familiar faces again!
Late to the party, but it nice to celebrate this amazing day with my fellow Sloggers.
@83 & @85:
Thank you!
Not sure what happened to my comment? Anyway, to all who did not live to see this day, I salute you! While you will never know how far your early advocacy got us, you gave us the strength and courage to fight on when this day seemed unattainable. A HUGE THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. You are missed terribly, gone but never forgotten. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

God bless, it's Kim in Portland! Er, kim in portland, excuse me. And what a felicitous day to see you here again. A very good day indeed.
Happy equality, legbutts!
Nice to see Kim back here too.
We are literally fucked!
Hello @ Fnarf @89) and venom lash (@90) ! Indeed it was a glorious day.