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What does that even mean?
@ Officer Mulkey
Good on you! About time bicyclists were asked to follow the rules of the road like the rest of us. Know how to avoid his citations, scofflaw cyclists? How about just obeying the laws? I frankly don't understand why you're allowed to rude the streets without license plates, turn indicators and so on.
Actually, already Mile High, I did. The SPD has no issue with the citations. And as noted, following the laws will magically protect idiot childrens toy 'commuters' from what you stupidly call harassment.
Caught in another lie. LOL
Oh. I see. You are that stupid.
License plates, turn indicators, appropriate night lighting and insurance as well as the road taxes motorists pay OUGHT to be the law. They are not what the good officer was writing citations for, because it' s currently legal to operate a bike on the roads without any of that.
Now, smoke your 4th joint of the morning jand relax, Mile High.
It seems dumb to poll the entire city, for someone who is running in a district election. But it adds to the "negative" branding of the socialism, which pleases the establishment.
Now, go back to your imaginary black wife and imaginary Italian villa - or wait, are you "working" at your imaginary business? Whatever the thorazine allows you to pretend is real.
Frankly I appreciate the cops writing tickets to bikers that i share the road with. They're supposed to follow the same laws as cars and motorcycles, so yes they must stop at stop signs and lights.
I saw a biker get a ticket for running a stop sign a while ago, and it was pretty funny. The cop started the whole thing by simply saying that he needs to stop at the sign, after the biker nearly ran over a pedestrian crossing the street. The biker then started yelling at the cop about 'momentum' and pretty much opted into the ticket.
If our city was laid out and our traffic laws created by folks who had never ridden in a car, let alone drive one, it would be a clusterfuck. And that's what we have w/ bicycles: a clusterfuck. (and No, sweet cheeks, riding a motorcycle is not the same.) Just saying "Let them all obey the laws we already have" is the way of the lazy idiot, who wants to project the image of intelligence, but doesn't want to learn anything beyond their own assumptions.
A bike is neither a pedestrian nor is it a motor vehicle. It is its own type of vehicle and deserves its own set of infrastructure and laws. Created by those who actually ride a bike, duh, and anyone who doesn't should be treated like flat-earthers. Until that happens, we're just go to have to wallow in the stupidity and anger created by shoe-horning every kind of traffic into the car model.
In addition, Ed Murray's purported 70% approval rating will likely drop like a rock once SF residential neighborhoods wake up to the fact that they have been massively upzoned. The mayor and the HALA committee have reeled back from CALLING it an upzone after the leak to Danny Westneat, but allowing triplexes, stacked flats, courtyard housing, etc. throughout all residential neighborhoods of Seattle is still an upzone in the same way that you can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but it's still a pig. I predict that if this HALA report recommendation stands, developers will zero in on the cheapest housing they can find, e.g., in Southeast (D2) and far North Seattle (D5), and gentrify the crap out those neighborhoods as fast as possible. They are at present the last bastions of lower middle class owned homes, and displacement of people of modest means and POC will be massive, if for no other reason than 20% of these homes are rentals.
But please be advised, if being a “scofflaw cyclist” is the surest way to the ER, the second surest is being hearsome cyclist…both will get you killed.
And as a Seattle biker, I wear a helmet, stop at lights and stop signs when it is SAFE TO DO SO, always pull priority and will get in front of a line of cars - sometimes into the crosswalk - to create my own "green box" as to not be run over, always signal and have lights, etc.
And considering the vast number of other bikers I see doing the same things (plus the massive numbers of bikers in this city...with only one cop writing a few number of tickets) any arguments of "aggressive and non-follow-the-rule-type bikers" is pretty unfounded.
Drivers (myself included) rarely follow all the rules. Like ever. I routinely go 5-10 mph over the speed limit, California roll-through the sign-less intersections of North and West Seattle, etc. etc. So let's not act like drivers are holier than thou.
Also - it's a good day when you can wake up to a Seattleblues rant. you can almost smell the bullshit in the air.
That's flat-out mendacious! You hardly EVER see Seattle drivers smoking!
But, in all seriousness, check out the number of out-of-state plates on the roads the next time you're out-and-about, and THEN come back to us with how "every driver in Seattle...are bad drivers". The problem isn't so much drivers FROM Seattle, but the sheer intermixing of drivers from, well, just about everywhere, all trying to use techniques and practices based on what was considered "normal driving" wherever they came from; and believe me, they're NOT uniform.
LOOK, THERE! EVIL PURE AND SIMPLE!
-Bicycle helmets barely work even in the best conditions. They do pretty much nothing to protect cyclists from the thing that kills most cyclists (cars).
-One car breaking a traffic law is more dangerous than 100 cyclists breaking traffic laws.
MADD estimates the average DUI recipient has driven drunk 80 times before receiving a ticket. And these officers are prioritizing writing bike helmet tickets? Until all drivers are obeying the law all the time, there's no logical justification for ticketing cyclists. Cops giving tickets to cyclists are wasting limited resources that need to be put towards public safety.
Yeah - kind of a good point until you realize that this isn't a metropolitan mecca (yet...thanks Amazon...) and you really don't have that many out-of-state drivers.
I-5 is not the I-95 corridor - the N-S highway that literally has NO driving that is NOT in a metro area of another state...Norfolk, Wilmington, B-More, DC, Trenton, Philly, NYC, New Haven, Providence, Boston, Portsmouth, Portland and THEN your in Canada. You will be on the road in Jersey and somehow only see PA or DE plates.
Seattle's driving woes unfortunately doesn't come from people from Idaho or Oregon. It's Washingtonians and people from BC (I'll try and dig up this study to link, but it stated that even though Washington residents only make up 1/3 of all destination spending in the state, they make up almost 2/3 of all in-state travel to those destinations...meaning most drivers are from in-state).
Y'all are terrifying behind the wheel.
Page 8 - prepared for Washington Tourism Alliance in 2012...so I guess that data might be different now...but it can't be off by a 1/3 in just 3 years.
I knew I had this thing in my bookmarks somewhere.
I beg to differ. I drive between Ballard & Capitol Hill straight through SLU (and frequently downtown) every workday, and I would estimate that currently roughly 20% of the vehicles I see around me carry out-of-state plates; and while a good portion of those ARE from OR & BC, the overwhelming majority aren't. If I had to take a guess, I'd have to say in the past year or so I've seen plates from just about every state, except perhaps HI, with CA, MT, TX, GA, MI, OH & NM being fairly common.
Anyways, according to my own observations most folks on bikes are reasonably law-abiding, at least as much as the average driver or pedestrian is. I see drivers run stop signs every single day, and drivers running reds downtown is a frequent enough occurrence that I don't trust the green light until I look for cars. Of course I see cyclists doing the same, but it's not like people are blazing through reds on a regular basis (really, that's not happening).
This is just how the road works. Most people break the laws they think they can break. Some go further.
One thing I know for sure: I would never, ever drive to work during rush hour. You'd have to be nuts to do it. Riding a bike is clearly a better way of getting around town (assuming you have the ability to do so, of course, and most people do).
But to me this isn't about cory wearing a helmet or an over zealous cop. Its systematic to Seattle that enforcement of the law applies to a certain portion of the population. You think the skewed demographics of the town happened by coincidence. Blue collar jobs used to be respected here and you've forced everyone that doesn't fit a certain profile out.
One more thing. Cory isn't hiding behind some fucking screen name (looking at you that numbnuts seattle blues)he doesn't have some bullshit dotcom job and doesn't plan on getting a service job relying on tips from asshole brogrammers. He's a messenger out in the rain and snow everyday and traffic everyday, trying to make a living in a mall that thinks its a city.