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Of course you know that, but you decided to post anyway.
I'm sure the opposite might be true in the eastern perspective, and reported accordingly in the eastern press. (Also, one expects these things to happen in Beirut, but not in Paris).
I'm sure you know that 40% of Lebanese people identify as Christian, right? In fact, when you consider the secular nature of French society, there's probably a greater percentage of practicing Christians in Beirut than in Paris.
Just saying...
1) Because most Americans have a fondness for Paris and many have been there whereas few even know where Beirut is.
2) What Rotten 666 said.
3) Because France is a major ally of the U.S. and involved in a war with us.
4) Because the death toll in France is greater than in Beirut. While this is the worst terrorism to hit Beirut since the civil war this is the worst to hit France since WW II.
You're not actually making the point you think you are.
Also, what's happening in Beirut could be connected to what's happening in Paris. Beyond, y'know, being part of the human family.
You all are sooo adorable! Love y'all! MWAH [sloppy, sloppy].
And then people fight over media attention for their favored monstrosities like its some kind of prize. What a world.
What I hear Ansel doing is using Beirut tragedy -- about which he probably doesn't really give a damn -- to attack USA and other extreme capitalist nations like France.
Comparing reactions (Paris vs Beirut) is simply a tool to show how racist etc etc we are.
sharm el-sheik
beirut
oman (police killings)
paris
they're baiting us. they want the apocalypse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teydwtcb…
Is it worth asking?
No, Jackass, it isn't.
By.the way I do think Ansel is a good reporter, this was just a shifty post.
Paris on the other hand has been remarkably spared the lasting scars of even the violence of WWII and shares deep cultural and emotional ties to America.
But I get Ansels point.
After all the people of Lebenon helped us with our revolution. And of course there is that 200 ft tall statue made by the people of Beruit in New York harbor.
Oh. Wait...
(It was soooo therapeutic to lasso the Eiffel Tower, pixel by pixel, this morning.)
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Profi…
This is your first post on Lebanon so I'll ask again why does it take a terrorist attack in Paris to have you report on a terrorist attack in Lebanon and then only in the context of the Paris terrorist attack?
You got power to post whatever you want on slog, so shame others for paying more attention to the Paris attack, but do not think your not part of the problem you are complaining about.
See my point? Yes the collective "we" should be ashamed for not paying more attention to the horrible attack in Lebanon. But the stranger and Ansel are part of that collective "we".
Ugh stupid auto correct
I feel like this observation is obvious, especially to someone who works in media in this day and age of analytic applications. This makes it seem like you're using the bodies of the freshly dead to push tangential vague political points. Probably not a good look.
Because you are vile.
With that kind of logic, there are no innocent Christians.
Look, pretty much most people are outraged and sickened in what happened in Paris on Friday Night. However, the logic that are no innocent Muslims" leads to bad things, like how Kevin Swanson wants to execute all homosexuals. Besides, good luck eradicating the most populous Islamic Nation on earth: Indonesia..
Now, Paris gets attacked and an attack on PARIS makes Ansel sit up and take notice. Because Ansel Herz gives a fuck about a major world capital like Paris, in a location where you don't expect routine suicide bombings. Like the ones in Beirut that made Ansel shrug, if he noticed them at all.
So now that Paris (not Beirut) has Ansel's attention, he goes to work, doing what he does. What he does is act like a self-righteous scold. The guy is a dick, and an opportunist. Everyone rightly condemns when Ann Coulter or Donald Trump exploits a tragedy like this for their agenda, and Ansel needs to be condemned for exploiting the Paris attacks for his self-aggrandizing agenda, wherein he pretends to be more righteous and worldly than everyone else. Where he tries to make you think he's got a deeper soul and shit.
He's not trying to make Paris about Beirut. He's trying to make Paris about himself.
No, he's pointing out our selective application of sympathy and outrage. And a number of commenters have pretty much said that they care more about Paris being attacked than they would about places like Beirut being attacked.
After it got so over-the-top (the parenthetical about Saudis, the part about no history, etc.), I kind of thought the comment wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.
@45: Wow, raindrop! First time I've ever noticed you condemning one of the uberracist trolls!
I rather thought Ansel's post WAS an expression of self-awareness...
But @36,37, and 50, if you want to understand why we care about Paris and not Beirut, it's right there in the message I wrote. That is a viewpoint propagated in our media that is treated as perfectly legitimate, and even taken seriously as a basis for foreign policy and maybe soon more war. That is America right now. Somebody who states or has recently stated views JUST LIKE THESE is going to get 48% of the national vote in the next election. The rest of us, we can't process that these people are real, then enter a state of denial where we ourselves then accept these views as somehow part of reasonable disagreement. It is just not so fun when it's distilled and we have to look at ourselves in the mirror.
Actually, I thought the worst would be if someone might actually watch the you tube I linked and say my point was incomprehensible... or that I was a "liberal" Obama communist, but Colbert proved that sometimes satire is hard for those being satired to see in this historical moment.
@53 Do lots of racists link to satirical songs by Liz Phair from the 90s? Is that a thing?
TBH The Stranger in the current era should probably get credit for not posting something like āItās not really mass-murder because mass-murder = privilege + power.ā
I think Ansel's alright actually. The sentiment he is implying (conveying?) is a common orthodox-left thing if social media is anything to go by.
You are vile
Dead is Dead, injured is injured, bloodshed is bloodshed, grief is grief, it doesn't matter if it is Lebanon or France.
Jesus weeps.
The stupidity here is unbelievable. They LET IN the fanatic refugees, who then gained political power and ruined their modern-ish country forever.
Typical for folks like you to report comments and block accounts. It's sad that you're outraged at differing opinions more than acts of barbarism.
The presumption is that both were following a set of rules. However, in the first case, the person was following rules and yet suffered a penalty not of his own doing. People will express sympathy, outrage because they relate to it. Damage was done, even when societies edicts (driving the speed limit, wearing a seat belt) were followed.
In the second instance, the presumption is that rules were followed, but they are different rules. The people involved in a gang war do so of their own volition (save for the stray bullet that enters a child's window). People are of the opinion that the people killed were living a life where killing is an option and a known risk.
Same with Paris and Lebanon. People walking down the street in Paris do not see getting killed by terror as part of the built in risk (yet by this time they should). People in Lebanon wh don't account for the risks of military weapons would have to be fools.
Which is why I'm reporting him, and not you.
1 - fewer people died in Beirut, a place where we expect people to die from terroristic activity from time to time. Conversely, more people died in Paris, where we never expect terroristic attacks.
2 - France is a stable western democracy and member of the G6, Lebanon is not a long-term stable state, and is not part of the global west.
3 - Muslims are essentially not white in the modern world, attacks in the muslim world are not considered attacks on whites. France is majority white.
As the hipsters like to say: "this is why we can't have nice things".
Think about that.
No, and no.
All you guys do is talk about butt holes on this site. Dan Savage has made a career out of it, but you guys can't handle some raw posts? Weak.
Who died and made you the recess monitor?
Ugly as the Kelly stalker troll's comments always are, isn't there some consolation when you realize that the poster spends part of the week actually planning on creating a new account every weekend and uploading that saved avatar picture so that he or she can haunt a few recent threads for about 48 hours until some moderator is back at work Monday? Because those comments are what makes the troll's sad life comical.
I am INSULTED
@86: sleep tight mods! :)
local, native religion evil; foreign religion defended against any criticism
local, native "patriarchy" evil; stone age invasive patriarchy cast as "victims"
dirty jokes are hate speech; terrorism is bad but they have reason
gay rights are civil rights; supports religion with least tolerance of homosexuality
Should I go on?
gender based income inequality most pressing issue; supports religion which often prohibits girls from attending school
Catholic molestation scandal means church should be dissolved; entire cultures (Afghanistan) abuse young boys
we *Heart* Science; swoons over followers of religion least tolerant of skeptics and dissenters
capital punishment inhumane; Muslim countries practice severe and brutal punishments
macho violence and "bro" culture despicable; defends religions and cultures where boys are raised to be lions and treat women and nonbelievers as subhuman
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