Columns Jul 30, 2009 at 4:00 am

I Wish I Could Charge You with Murder

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1
This is so confusing I can barely make fun of it.

Hey if I have a tattoo on my dick and someone knows, will they obsess about it?

My ink artist never warned me about that. Dammit.
2
Where the hell did this come from?

It sure as heck didn't come from the I, Anon forum; what is this, one of the Stranger staff's personal "I, Anon"s?

Also - "his work"?
If he was important enough, we should be able to work out who the heck this was, yeah?
Someone else do it please, I'm at work...
3
Dash Snow was not worth this amount of grief. Fuck him and fuck anyone who considered him a worth-while human being.
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Hi! We still get "I, Anon" submissions sent to anonymous@thestranger.com. This is one of those.
5
Why don't you people wise up? Your creating content for this shill-zone for FREE!
6
just get over it already, for fuck sake!
7
Dash Snow.
8
"Anyway, you killed yourself."

Wins best line.
9
Wow. Drugged up loser takes mediocre polaroids, dies. Why is anyone upset again?
10
It's hard to feel sorry for someone who had so many opportunities and chose to be a hipster asshole junkie instead.
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@TSAR: I saw them as mediocre polaroids too. Of course, if you're Bob Thurman's progeny, then mediocre polaroids will get you into major museums while you're still in your early 20's. Odd. I dunno...maybe there was something there that I'm missing, but his work didn't really speak to me. Still, I don't know that it's cool to accuse him of making thousands of people "suffer so deeply." People that actually knew him may be suffering, but hey...everyone dies sooner or later. As for the "thousands" of others, their suffering is perhaps the result of their own attachment to an illusion. That's their trip, not his. Maybe they should find someone else to be the "champion of their dream."
12
maybe his art was mediocre, I don't know. but he was still a person, he had a child and people who loved him. he mattered, even if not for the art.
13
Well said #12.
14
I love how people always bitch about someone who kills themselves with that odd implied, "I bet you're sorry now you asshole! You killed yourself!!" Seriously, think about it.

The writer of the letter is the real loser and probably should just get over it. Death trumps life in the end; cope with it.
15
What makes you think someone's suicide has anything to do with you? Why do you think your anger, suffering and pain matter at all?
"A man must take his life in his own hands,
hit those nails on the head
and I respect a man who goes where he wants to be
even if he wants to be dead" - Vic Chestnutt
16
fuck dash snow so hard.
17
The idea of someone creating a "Facebook memorial page" in my "honor" is almost enough to scare/shame me out of wanting to kill myself.
18
Anger is a natural reaction to suicide.
19
His death is sad, absolutely. However, whenever I think of him or his Polaroids, all I can think of is how horrible those people seem.
20
i'm so impressed that you shared social circles with a whimsical cliche who had more facebook friends than you, and totally outraged that he was not nearly as holy as though!
21
Way to make it all about you
22
He killed himself because Polaroid is no longer making the instant film.
23
The only thing I liked about this self-serving "I, Anon" is the illustration.

The rest was crap.
24
He probably did it cause he had people like you in his inner circle... GOD! Poor you? Who cares about a cock tattoo? Seriously. People usually kill themselves because of mental illness, not just to annoy YOU. It's clear that in this case though, it was probably just to get away from you.
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Well...as an arguement against the short cut back to diapers, the above comments go far. Seriously, folks, suicide has been around for about as long as birth and death. But it is an act of privilege and hatred basically. If it wasn't there would be many more "single car fatalities" or brave volunteers for high risk missions in whatever war we happen to be promoting. Ever see a mauled bug or small mammal struggling after the cats have been able to grab it? Ever notice how even the forgotten head of cabbage in the back of the fridge tries to grow roots? If you hate your life its possible to do enough stuff for other people that you at least feel reluctant to cut out on them. People get murdered everyday. Too bad we can't set up the "life exchange" Pompous folks who intend to create perpetual grief in those who survive them could instead volunteer to be murdered in place of people like Teresa Butz, who seemed to have every reason to live, and plenty of love to give. Suicides are haters. It's a normal thing to consider, and almost everyone living has done so at one or many times. But...remember if you DO it you might as well murder the people you love. That's what suicide amounts to. A supremely bratty and selfish "Me First". Have some guts. It's only a "life sentence". Things change and get better, or at least different, on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis. Why miss the show?
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Builder you really are a self-righteous cunt. How in fuck do you know anything about the circumstances of people's suicides? You know some details about one, two or even a few that have touched your life? Fine, but that gives you no right to assume you then know the reasoning behind all suicides… and frankly, this shouldn’t be something anyone should have to explain to an adult. Keep your ugly, selfish generalizations to yourself. As others here have commented: You, the writer of this piece and all of the other incredibly cold-hearted jackasses here whose only concerns seem to revolve around themselves, need to start realizing that deeply personal issues such as those which may lead a poor, messed-up and probably terrified individual to suicide are just that: personal. And despite the fact that their loss may lead to the disruption of the ongoing lives of those around them, the pain they were enduring just MAY have been a bit worse. Calling them selfish is really the pot calling the kettle black. God forbid you ever find yourself in absolute misery and can’t seem to find a way out, with or without help… get a heart and start using it you fucking prick.
27
Look Dash Snow came from an immensly wealthy and influential family who have done wonderful things for modern art and artists, but... I can hardly muster a fuck that he felt lonely, or unappreciated, or unworthy, or whatever... He was a shit artist and an unpleasant person, I mourned for Dominique de Menil but this douche gets nothing from me.
28
There is a single tear running down my cheek just for you, oh friend of a friend of a friend x60,000 of someone who committed suicide.

Lucky you that this is your most profound experience of death!
29
I'm so bored with folks shitting on Dash Snow for his pedigree. How is his work any different from Ryan McGinley circa 2002? Oh right, Ryan came from a middle-class NJ upbringing. He must be a boy genius, right? So authentic! Call the Whitney.

Dash Snow was a legitimately talented artist who died far too young. Archaic hipster politics that encourage us to determine merit based on class (and the fetishizing of the working class) is so 90s. Sears.

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Judging by his art, he lived a disgusting and self-indulgent life. I hardly feel like a drug overdose is something we should all pity.
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What, really, is wrong with living a self-indulgent life. What is wrong with a vigorous pursuit of pleasure and sensual indulgence. Shallow can be really fun; and, in the end, as long as one does no harm, so the-fuck-what. Your ten minutes on the Great Wheel makes no difference to anyone except one's self.
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Suicide is not "always" a desperate act of privilege, hatred or despair. It's simply a choice, maybe the only real choice we have. I respect anyone's right to hit the exit button any time they choose, and I respect the right of loved ones to be angry and hurt about it. It's a rejection of them and their love, even if it wasn't intended that way. But that doesn't make it a sin or a crime. Just a choice. We're all gonna die soon, let's not get dramatic or make grand pronouncements about the "right" way to do so.

And Dash Snow may have been a great guy or not, but his art SUCKED. A picture of cops with his cum smeared on it, entitled "Fuck the Police"? That is some high school shit. I don't fault him for his pedigree because he couldn't help that, but his. Art. Sucked. Let's not retroactively saint a one-note crap artist, k?

And how do we know this is about him? I thought he OD'd, not suicided.
33
Oh, puh-leeze.

The privileged class, which is all too happy to let the poor rot and destroy themselves and their communities, is getting what it deserves. I worked with one of his close relatives (nice but clueless, in her posh-schools-and-Georgetown-home way, about the challenges that Real People With Little Or No Money face everyday, and for 25 years I was very close with someone who had been a childhood friend of Taya Thurman, Snow's mother. Dalton School, un-be-LEE-vable wealth even by NYC standards, and some very peculiar behavior that I won't detail here.

What the hell was Taya thinking, having a baby at 20? Who the hell is able to give a child what it needs, emotionally and psychologically and spiritually, that young? And believe me, 20 is young in this consumer culture and especially in the insulated circle of wealth. Money insulates -- it's that simple.

His "art" was just self-indulgent crap with a calculated-to-shock edge. No meaning, nothing redemptive about it. Not only did he contribute nothing to this society, he (like his mother) spawned irresponsibly and created a child that he was unfit to raise. All of this fuss about him, a self-important parasite, disgusts me. And by the way, his wealthy dilettante drug use just fuels more inner-city misery: Who the hell do you think sells drugs (because there are no other jobs)? Who the hell gets shot up in rivalry over drug turf -- shot dead or, worse, purposely shot in the spine to confine the victim to a wheelchair and send a potent message to other dealers? What the hell gave Dash Snow the right to EVER buy/use illegal drugs in the first place? If he was so intent on altering his consciousness, he could've consumed alcohol or huffed any nunber of household solvents, without jeopardizing some poor kid of color.

Everyone who is mourning or celebrating him: Get a fucking life and solve some of the fucking paralyzing fucking social problems in this country.
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"The privileged class, which is all too happy to let the poor rot and destroy themselves and their communities, is getting what it deserves."

I grew up poor and then middle class in NYC. My family and I (and probably you, too) benefited greatly from the generosity of many NYC philanthropists. Your blanket hatred of the rich is serving no one and nothing.

"I worked with one of his close relatives - nice but clueless .. about the challenges that Real People With Little Or No Money face everyday."

Yeah, that's part of the benefit of being rich. That's why 99% of us want to be rich, so we and our children don't have to deal with those challenges, either.

"What the hell was Taya thinking, having a baby at 20? Who the hell is able to give a child what it needs, emotionally and psychologically and spiritually, that young?"

My mother, for one.

"20 is young in this consumer culture and especially in the insulated circle of wealth. Money insulates -- it's that simple."

That's why if anyone should have kids young, it's rich people.

"his wealthy dilettante drug use just fuels more inner-city misery"

Right. Because the ghetto would be just swell if no one sold drugs there.

"Who the hell do you think sells drugs (because there are no other jobs)? Who the hell gets shot up in rivalry over drug turf -- shot dead or, worse"

Ahh, get atta here with that ivory tower baloney. The real villians are not the users but the puritanical hypocrites who call for illegalizing drugs, which artificially inflates prices, which makes selling drugs appealing. Also Plenty of rural white boys sell drugs, too (see meth and the Hells Angels.)

"What the hell gave Dash Snow the right to EVER buy/use illegal drugs in the first place?"

Ummm ... the fact that the government has no business making laws about what people use to get high, particularly in light of the fact that legal drugs kill about 50 times as many people in the U.S. as legal drugs (drug-related homicides not included in this math).

"If he was so intent on altering his consciousness, he could've consumed alcohol .. without jeopardizing some poor kid of color."

Have you ever tried this schpiel on an actual live person of color? Especially a dealer? "Gosh, Rasheed ... don't you wish rich white people would stop doing illegal drugs? Y'know, so you wouldn't be so jeopardized?"

"Everyone who is mourning or celebrating him .. solve some of the fucking paralyzing fucking social problems in this country."

And what pray tell are you doing to this end, Mr./Ms. "keeping it real cuz I hate the rich?"

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